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Which are the conservative Christians - idiots or villains?

YesYNot says

Which are the conservative Christians - idiots or villains?

Those two things are not mutually exclusive.

Hater says

this is why science is not a vote:

The weight of one valid argument is heavier than the (supposed) consensus of all of the true believers.

Hater is stealing from my threads and then lying about the content.

The paid off shill does not have "one valid argument". All his lies have been debunked, and the money trail from Exon to him has been thoroughly documented. Climate change deniers are the most dishonest and immoral people on the planet.

Dan8267 says

A disregard for human life and suffering in the pursuit of short-term profit.

What is a characteristic of climate alarmists?

Ohh, this isn't Jeopardy...

Dan8267 says

That's the same argument capitalists made against ending the slave trade.

Having lived in a country that has the shortest historical use of slaves in history, Your knowledge of this subject amounts to a Great Lakes surfer riding Pipe.

NuttBoxer says

Dan8267 says

That's the same argument capitalists made against ending the slave trade.

Having lived in a country that has the shortest historical use of slaves in history, Your knowledge of this subject amounts to a Great Lakes surfer riding Pipe.

Honey, the argument your bitching about was in the last video I posted in the original post. It does not come from my knowledge. So your ad hominem attack would not even hold merit if it were true.

NuttBoxer says

What is a characteristic of climate alarmists?

So completely disregarding the Constitution after 9/11 wasn't "terrorism alarmist" behavior, but doing anything about climate change or acknowledging its existence is alarmist? That's bullshit.

So I guess all those hippies at the Pentagon are climate change alarmists.

Climate Change Is the ‘Mother of All Risks' to National Security

Jon Powers, an Iraq Veteran, served as the Federal Chief Sustainability Officer and Special Advisor on Energy to the US Army in the Obama Administration, and is currently Managing Director of Public Sector Business Development with Bloom Energy.

Serving at Pentagon, I worked with leaders who studied threats ranging from insurgent groups to rogue states. One of the U.S. military’s less-noticed findings, however, is that there is clear consensus that climate change poses an immediate risk to national security.

To the military, climate change acts as a threat multiplier, exacerbating threats in already unstable regions of the world. Just as we act aggressively on information from the national security intelligence community, we must also act on the scientific evidence from our nation’s best climate scientists.

In the security world, decisions are made by a careful evaluation of risk. And climate change is the mother of all risks. As the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change warned last year, without action on climate change, our children and grandchildren will face “severe, pervasive and irreversible impacts.”

The U.S. is already suffering from the impacts of climate change. In 2014 alone, there were eight extreme weather and climate events with losses of more than $1 billion. California is currently facing one of the worst droughts on record, and sea-level rise threatens some of the U.S.’ most critical military installations. Without a global agreement in Paris, the world—including the U.S.—is headed toward potentially catastrophic climate impacts.

DoD Releases Report on Security Implications of Climate Change, DoD News, Defense Media Activity

Global climate change will aggravate problems such as poverty, social tensions, environmental degradation, ineffectual leadership and weak political institutions that threaten stability in a number of countries, according to a report the Defense Department sent to Congress yesterday.

The report finds that climate change is a security risk, Pentagon officials said, because it degrades living conditions, human security and the ability of governments to meet the basic needs of their populations. Communities and states that already are fragile and have limited resources are significantly more vulnerable to disruption and far less likely to respond effectively and be resilient to new challenges, they added.

I'll take the analysis of the military and the Pentagon over some random guy speaking from ignorance any day.

Dan8267 says

It does not come from my knowledge.

Feel free to apply the context liberally to anyone from the US. Slavery was a blip on our radar, and no matter how many times you watch Roots, that won't change the fact that Africa practiced(and still practices it) centuries longer than the US did. How do you get the citizens to forget the atrocities of the Feds against states who merely exercised their Constitutional Rights? Blame the blacks.

Dan8267 says

but doing anything about climate change or acknowledging its existence is alarmist?

The day you DO anything about making our planet a better place to live, I'll shut up. Until then you're just a whining, impotent government stoole, waiting for people who only care about profit, to make your world a better place.

Even if the effects are as predicted, it is more economical to work around them when they come. The Netherlands is underwater, yet it is still thriving. Florida will be fine.

America has two oceans to regulate the temperature. We have a diverse economy and all the talent available to deal with all problems. Other countries may be worse off and they will want us to pay for their problems. They have more to worry than us.

Going along with the Paris Accord without requiring SIGNIFICANT concessions from other countries would be a terrible Realpolitik move.

NuttBoxer says

The day you DO anything about making our planet a better place to live, I'll shut up.

Then shut up already. As demonstrated in the videos in the original post, the best call to action that Johnny C. Public can do is to foster the political will to implement climate change mitigation policies like a carbon tax or cap and trade. The problem is technically hard to solve. It's the lack of political will that is the sole problem to safeguarding world and national security.