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rando says

To me, that sounds like this:

Well I don't know about the latency period of rabies in America is, but if it were lower due to a lower population of infectable animals, that might make sense. Considering the expected lifetime of an animal with rabies, the disease could go away on its own with a low enough population.

YesYNot says

I wonder how prevalent that view is today

According to Pew 70% of American Christians believed in Hell and 85% believed in Heaven as of 2015 For some reason, 3% of atheists believed in hell too. Weird. Jehova's Witness are the only sect that they surveyed who mostly didn't believe in hell.
Meanwhile, only 20% of Jews believed in Hell.

According to Gallup as of 2004, 92% of Christians who attend church weekly believe in Hell and 83% of Republicans believe in Hell.
Also, 70% believed in the Devil as of 2004/

YesYNot says

Meanwhile, only 20% of Jews believed in Hell.

I had a semester of theology at Notre Dame (requirement) and remember the teacher telling us that heaven and hell were not Jewish concepts, but only weakly retrofitted later, and never really caught on.

Jews originally believed that God simply wanted them to follow certain rules and would give them long life, wealth, and children if they only followed the rules exactly. The afterlife was not a big consideration.

curious2 says

but linking his comment history shows that it abounds with examples, then his assertion is disproved

"abounds"? If it actually did "abound", then you might have a point.

curious2 says

As for lying, the pattern establishes that

The pattern is you arguing for awhile with another poster then eventually calling the other poster a liar with no basis. You've been called out on it several times by several different posters but it obviously doesn't stop you. This is just the latest example. And linking back to one of your previous posts for "proof" as if you calling someone liar two hours ago proves that he is a liar.

joeyjojojunior says

with no basis

Basis, again and again, including in this thread. I might also add the repeated gaslighting pretending lies had been intended as jokes, including in this thread, only after failing repeatedly to defend the accuracy of lies that became somehow only subsequently and retroactively intended as jokes.

curious2 says

I quoted YOUR LINK. You said "According to the press..." Your link said, "Trump is right that no one has proven Putin to have ordered assassinations of dissidents." Different journalists may think different things, and I don't presume to speak for entire categories of people (unlike you). I quote people. Your link said that in 17 years, in all of Russia, 34 journalists had been killed; that's two per year on average. Your link said also that in America, two journalists had been killed in 2016. Do you blame Obama for killing them? Would you condemn Obama killing them, or would you give him a pass because he's a Democrat? If you believed actually that "the press" said what you said, then that would mean you were looking at only some subset of extremely partisan press; in fact, you linked an article that contradicted your assertion, so you were simply lying again.

There is also the domain issue. If somebody kills two journalists in LA, people might blame the Chief/Commish (whatever they call him there) or the Mayor or the City/County Legislature. Nobody is going to immediately point the finger at Gov. Jerry Brown and certainly not President Obama.

Also, the key issue is WHY the Press in the USA and in the Neoliberal Papers of Western Europe believes this, but not other publications in other parts of the world, and what is the evidence? Assertions without evidence should be dismissed, particularly by Media Organizations that claim only to be interested in unbiased journalism. A mere potential motive is not enough, otherwise if a Jew got killed somewhere, every Muslim or Nazi would be a suspect, when it might have been Tyrone just looking for cash to buy Crack, and Schlomo Shekelstein with his gold chain happened to cross his path.

Lashkar_i_Trumpi says

There is also the domain issue. If somebody kills two journalists in LA, people might blame the Chief/Commish (whatever they call him there) or the Mayor or the City/County Legislature.

I think that the interesting thing presented in the article I linked about Putin being accused of murdering the press is that 34 journalists were murdered in Russia during a period of time when 2 were murdered in China and 3 were murdered in the US. Then look at what Journalists in the US can get away with and think about what would happen if they did that in Russia. Did you notice that Colbert made a joke about Trump sucking Putin's cock? How would that have gone over in Russia?
That's not enough to go on, but it's certainly suspicious.
Most people in the US are more ready to admit that Putin is a killer than their own Presidents.
Clinton on the other hand... Probably 20-30% of the US thinks that HRC has had many people murdered.

curious2 says

the repeated gaslighting

OK, I'm disengaging. This is getting a little out of control.

rando says

HEY YOU says

Sovereign nation with sovereign laws,don't like it,don't live there.

They have the right to believe in an imaginary figure just many Americans.

The problem is that they are influencing our laws and our leaders with their money, and they are exporting an insanely violent ideology across the world, and even into America.

Seems like you miss the mark. The problem isn't that "they" are influencing our laws and our leaders with their money. The real problem is that our so called leaders are selling us out for profit. If Islam disappears today, tomorrow the leaders will be right back on the highway exit ramp with a sign that reads "GIVE ME MONEY, I'LL GIVE YOU MY SOUL", and the next worse actors will move to the top.

YesYNot says

curious2 says

the repeated gaslighting

OK, I'm disengaging. This is getting a little out of control.

You don't want to get on the wrong side of Curious2.

ex-KGB, plain and simple.

Lashkar_i_Trumpi says

Also, the key issue is WHY the Press in the USA and in the Neoliberal Papers of Western Europe believes this, but not other publications in other parts of the world, and what is the evidence?

errc says

You don't want to get on the wrong side of Curious2

That horse is probably already out of the barn for me.