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Ex-DNC aide hits back hard at Clinton, says her campaign ignored data on Michigan, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin


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2017 Jun 1, 7:34am   6,522 views  66 comments

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Hillary Clinton has found plenty of non-Hillary Clinton things to blame for her 2016 loss, including Russia, James B. Comey, debate moderators and misogyny. But her decision Wednesday to add the Democratic National Committee to that list is predictably proving pretty sensitive inside her own party.

A top former DNC aide tweeted overnight that Clinton's allegations were “f‑‑‑ing bulls‑‑‑” and even suggested that the Clinton campaign ignored its warnings about how competitive Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin were. Those three states proved decisive for President Trump and, especially in the case of Michigan and Wisconsin, were neglected by the Clinton campaign.

In a Wednesday appearance at Recode's Code Conference in California, Clinton pointed to the DNC's data deficit when she became the Democratic nominee.

“I set up my campaign and we have our own data operation. I get the nomination. So I’m now the nominee of the Democratic Party. I inherit nothing from the Democratic Party,” Clinton said, according to a transcript. “I mean it was bankrupt, it was on the verge of insolvency, its data was mediocre to poor, nonexistent, wrong. I had to inject money into it — the DNC — to keep it going.”

Andrew Therriault, who served as the DNC's director of data science and now works for the City of Boston, took exception to Clinton's criticisms in tweets that have since been deleted.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/06/01/ex-dnc-aide-hits-back-hard-at-clinton-says-her-campaign-ignored-its-data-on-michigan-pennsylvania-wisconsin/?utm_term=.eb8415a2068d

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59   MisdemeanorRebel   2017 Jun 2, 3:58pm  

joeyjojojunior says

They weren't anti-Trump on Nov. 8th.

The Economist has been and still is anti-Trump and endorsed Hillary for her Private Policy of Bank Love.

60   Goran_K   2017 Jun 2, 3:58pm  

joeyjojojunior says

FOX, Wall St. Journal, Economist

True.

WSJ and Economist were definitely anti-trump.

FOX was 50/50 depending on who was reporting (Megyn Kelly was one of the most vocal anti-trumpers on MSM and worked for FOX during the election).

Not that it matters. ABC News/WaPO was weighted nearly twice as high as FOX in Nate Silver's model anyway.

61   joeyjojojunior   2017 Jun 2, 4:06pm  

Goran_K says

Not that it matters. ABC News/WaPO was weighted nearly twice as high as FOX in Nate Silver's model anyway

Of course it was. Silver weighted on past performance.

62   joeyjojojunior   2017 Jun 2, 4:09pm  

Still waiting for the explanation of how a 0.8% difference from Nov. 8th polling to actual result on Nov. 9th constitutes a major miss and evidence of a biased methodology. Especially since its pretty well founded that late deciders went for Trump.

63   Goran_K   2017 Jun 2, 4:16pm  

joeyjojojunior says

Still waiting for the explanation of how a 0.8% difference from Nov. 8th polling to actual result on Nov. 9th constitutes a major miss and evidence of a biased methodology. Especially since its pretty well founded that late deciders went for Trump.

What? Literally no one has made that argument in this thread.

We're telling you that 95% of the national polls being wrong is almost unheard of for any national issue. Even with Brexit, the polls were 40/60, 30/70, but 95/5? That's called story telling.

64   joeyjojojunior   2017 Jun 2, 5:01pm  

Goran_K says

We're telling you that 95% of the national polls being wrong is almost unheard of for any national issue. Even with Brexit, the polls were 40/60, 30/70, but 95/5? That's called story telling.

Actually you have made that very argument in your last dozen posts at least. You are just not well versed enough to realize it.

I'll help you understand--how is being off by 0.8% considered "wrong"? What do you consider "right"?

65   MisdemeanorRebel   2017 Jun 2, 6:50pm  

Goran_K says

Why, this is a great example of a model being proved right. Moving 180 degrees in the span of a few hours.

66   joeyjojojunior   2017 Jun 2, 7:21pm  

Ah, so you are seeing your mistake now?

I've said all along that for sure most of the MSM models were shit. They didn't account for dependency of many of the probabilities and underestimated the error of polls with such high levels of undecided voters.

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