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The scandal is that the Intel Services and Cops already have more than enough tools and tips, and most Jihadis "are known to authorities", but they prefer to let them run wild while "Monitoring" them instead of arresting them. They could easily serve a warrant (or "sneak a peek") and find Jihadi propaganda and weaponry, or at least try to entrap them by posing as a bomb maker. But they don't.

Terrorists aren't like ordinary criminals. They are PROUD of what they do. And the suicide ones especially don't care about consequences, since they know they ain't coming back after the deed.

Additionally, many terrorists' families get paid by Jihad supporters, so they WANT people to know who they are.

anonymous says

one of more Western governments were behind a lot things include "terror" attacks

Motivation? They already have their surveillance society, so nothing to gain there. The political elite is afraid of terror attacks because more of those will cause Trump-isation and LePen-isation of Europe - current politicians in power will be swept into dustbin of history.

CNN releases Two Terrorist Photos on website:

hahahahaha (not really)

@anonymous, I like and respect you, but I'm surprised Off-Guardian.org ran that article, basically trooferism, and some of the comments were expressly troofers, so it makes me think less of them. Also, although I share your skepticism about official cover stories, especially when they are clearly self-serving, that particular article didn't measure up to your usual standards.

As 2Scoops pointed out already, suicide jihadis want to be identified so they get the glory and their families get the $$$.

I would add the Orlando example, where witnesses identified the jihadi as a repeat customer who had pulled a knife after someone made a joke about religion. At least two and probably three reports to FBI had reportedly put him under surveillance, but his guard and gun licenses were not even revoked. Look at Rotherham and other "grooming" reports (sexually assaulting thousands of girls) to see how bad the LE situation is when jihadis hide behind their religion, which does in fact command them to do and say what they do and say.

Also, contrary to the article, many papers do survive even a terrible conflagration. I remember after the Twin Towers came down, internal documents (presumably confidential) were literally blowing in the wind, I saw intact pages probably from a big law firm. People need ID to board planes, so of course they had ID, and I'm not at all surprised that one and a half passports did reportedly survive the Pennsyvania crash. Trooferism becomes practically a religion, people reach for the least likely explanation rather than applying Occam's Razor. The Off-Guardian comments included imaginary missiles, as if thousands of witnesses hadn't seen the planes, and as if people could forget what we saw.

lostand confused says

CommentsTHE Arsenal kit wearing ringleader of the London Bridge terror attack posed with a jihadi flag on Channel 4 documentary The Jihadis Next Door, was thrown out of a mosque and tried to radicalise kids in his local park in the years ahead of the devastating atrocity.The

I would NEVER EVER hire a Muslim in Islamic garbs, because it tells me he/she is religious and proud of their violent religious beliefs. I don't need lunatics like that working in my office.

I agree.

It's sad, because America and the West in general wants to respect essentially harmless differences between cultures while stressing our shared commitment to classically liberal Western ideals such as democracy, freedom of speech, and freedom of religion, and the pursuit of happiness as each individual defines it, as long as others are respected.

Islamic garb has become a very good indicator that a person should be immediately deported. It is a gang symbol of pride in sharia, and sharia means violent intolerance of every Western ideal and aggressive disrespect of innocent people pursuing their happiness. It's like wearing a big sign saying "Fuck you, Western values (and LOL that you let me in, assholes!)"

rando says

Islamic garb has become a very good indicator that a person should be immediately deported. It is a gang symbol of pride in sharia, and sharia means violent intolerance of every Western ideal. It's like wearing a bulletin board advertising murder.

Liberals are not willing to admit that some cultures are really that bad yet. They deny the daily bloody reality in front of them, and so the random murders of innocent civilians will continue as long as liberals keep importing Muslims.

How can anyone disagree with what you just said?
Just before 911 when my children were in elementary school, I would see this woman drop off her kid to the school, like i did every morning. After 911, I noticed she started wearing a hijab. What does that tell us? She is obviously a terrorist supporter. The same logic applies to other Muslims who eagerly show their support for Islam after 911, or name their child "Osama" These are the obvious dangerous Muslims who should be deported first.

I make fun of all religions but don't discriminate based on it. Have hired and will continue to hire muslim students and postdocs. They are free to dress however they want. I still joke and make fun of their magic carpet. They don't seem to mind it and I have remained good friends with some of them long after they have graduated.

FP says

I make fun of all religions but don't discriminate based on it. Have hired and will continue to hire muslim students and postdocs. They are free to dress however they want. I still joke and make fun of their magic carpet. They don't seem to mind it and I have remained good friends with some of them long after they have graduated.

As an atheist, all religions are man made to me. However, there are peaceful religions, and there are violent religions. Nothing, in the modern age even comes close to the violent religion, Islam.
We must speak out and ridicule this barbaric religion.

FP says

Have hired and will continue to hire muslim students and postdocs... I still joke and make fun of their magic carpet. They don't seem to mind....

a) religious jokes can add up to a hostile environment, potentially actionable;
b) subordinates "don't seem to mind," i.e. cover their feelings, when they are hoping to get references? Can you tell a smile from a veil?

Maybe book smart, but not street smart.

Also, it doesn't really matter how many Muslims don't kill you in the name of Islam. Making fun of Islam is a capital offense. It only takes enough who will do what Islam says, and one who does.

curious2 says

a) religious jokes can add up to a hostile environment, potentially actionable;

b) subordinates "don't seem to mind," i.e. cover their feelings, when they are hoping to get references? Can you tell a smile from a veil?

1. never hostile environment in my group.
2. I don't treat them as subordinates and they know I go out of my way to help their careers.

curious2 says

Maybe book smart, but not street smart.

just a winning personality

now back on ignore

I still joke and make fun of their magic carpet.

Or when Mohammed fucked 9 year old Ayesha. She was playing with her toys, but he wanted to fuck so her mom had to take her away from them.

LOL!

Or beheading the 800 Jews who had surrendered, sparing only boys without pubic hair and women to sell as slaves.

ROFL!

Or was it 900 Jews? Can't remember.

Or when Mohammed had the aged poet Abu 'Afak murdered for writing a less-than-complimentary poem.

The laughs continue! (Imagine how popular you'll be)

And then, the murder of Asma bint Marwan in the night with a child at her breast, because she criticized the murder of Abu 'Afak.

They'll be cheering you on for your knowledge of hadith, and welcome you as one of their own!

Patrick, you have some loose screws in your head. But, yes, I'll ask one of my former students about these things. In fact I will read to him what you wrote.

rando says

Or was it 900 Jews?

It sounds like Muhammad's Massacre of the Qurayza Jews. "Muhammad claimed that the angel Gabriel came to him and ordered him to attack the Banu Qurayza... Eventually, the Jews could not hold out and they surrendered, probably assuming their non aggressive stand during the battle of the Trench would prevent them from receiving a fate worse than previous cities he had conquered. By the time they realized their peril, it was too late, they were without weapons and their hands were bound behind their backs. Muhammad picked out one of his men to judge their fate: the very same Sa'd Muadh, who had made the previously mentioned death declaration, of which undoubtedly Muhammad was aware. Sa'd proclaimed that the adult males (any teenage boy who had started puberty) were to be beheaded, and, the woman and children enslaved. Thus Muhammad massacred 800 prisoners of war and enslaved their women and children." The demise of the Qurayza Jews is only one chapter in the larger tale of how the people of Yathrib (now Medina) made the mistake of welcoming Mohamed and his followers, who then took over. Today, Jews aren't even allowed in Medina anymore, it's for Muslims only.

Here is more about Aisha (age 9 at consummation of her marriage to Mohamed) and Safiya.

FP, for the sake of your career and/or your own personal safety, you shouldn't. Joking about their magic carpet makes them think you are ignorant, and they tolerate that.

However, deception is a very important teaching in the Quran. They are not allowed to accept you as their real friend, but they are required to deceive you. In fact, Allah himself is often described in the Quran as "the greatest of all deceivers" or "schemer".

bigbeard112 says

However, deception is a very important teaching in the Quran. They are not allowed to accept you as their real friend, but they are required to deceive you. In fact, Allah himself is often described in the Quran as "the greatest of all deceivers" or "schemer".

I believe it. Allah managed to deceive 1.6 billion suckers....oops Muslims, all at the same time.