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Talk on women and careers


               
2017 Sep 19, 4:19pm   17,175 views  47 comments

by Dan8267   follow (4)  

And largely applies to men well.
www.kj7VgBnQNUc

"Most people don't have careers. They have jobs."

So true.

"What happens when you double the labor force. You half the value of labor."

Also so true.

"And now we're going into a situation where women will work because men won't."

Probably true.

#politics
#economics

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1   FortWayne   @   2017 Sep 19, 4:48pm  

It's the economy today, when more and more wives are forced to work in order to meet an ever increasing costs.

I don't think world will return to giving women freedom to be housewives. That's gone with the wind.

Thanks for sharing the video Dan
2   MAGA   @   2017 Sep 19, 5:08pm  

The big thing today is females in Stem careers. There is no barrier that I can see. Some of these young women however, are going to be surprised at the amount of work put in on a daily basis. Add to that, working with decades old code. Not as fun as you might think.
3   lostand confused   @   2017 Sep 19, 6:03pm  

Plus lot of men dropping out-who wants to work like a dog, have a majority of your paycheck go to taxes, alimony, child support etc etc?
4   Patrick   @   2017 Sep 19, 6:12pm  

"What happens when you double the labor force. You half the value of labor."

Aha! This alone explains our oligarchs' devotion to getting women "liberate" and therefore working for them.

Every decline in the value of labor is a gain in the value of capital.
5   anonymous   2017 Sep 19, 6:42pm  

jvolstad says
The big thing today is females in Stem careers. There is no barrier that I can see. Some of these young women however, are going to be surprised at the amount of work put in on a daily basis. Add to that, working with decades old code. Not as fun as you might think.


Yes, but: so much more fulfilling!

Who would want to make a home and raise their own kids, when you can get up early, spend 90 minutes 'getting ready' with the overpriced makeup and perfume, and expensive clothes and purses, only to fight traffic, so you can make the boss rich? Dress to impress!

Hell if she's lucky, maybe her take home pay will cover the costs of working said job, and then it's just (all) your time you give away for free. At least she can sleep well at night knowing that the immense benefits of working the very important job, outweigh the costs of devoting all that time and energy to your boss. Winning!
6   Patrick   @   2017 Sep 19, 9:10pm  

Finally watched the video. It was really great.

Jordan Peterson is brilliant.
7   Dan8267   @   2017 Sep 19, 9:18pm  

FortWayne says
It's the economy today, when more and more wives are forced to work in order to meet an ever increasing costs.


Women are not forced to work because the cost of living is greater. We spend less on the vast majority of things today than 40 years ago.

Women are forced to work to make ends meet because labor is cheaper. Labor is cheaper because women entered the work force, decreasing the bargaining power of labor. Even though labor today is over four times more productive than labor in the 1950s, labor is paid far less in real dollars. This is solely because of capitalism, the control over distribution of revenue streams by owners. Capitalism is the sole reason that women absolutely need to work in almost every family today.

And no women can afford to stay out of the labor market long enough for the lack of supply to increase labor prices enough so that a single income is sufficient to raise a family on. They are trapped into working for low wages. This is exactly why capitalism is a bad economic system. All economic systems that concentrate power into the hands of a few and reward anything other than productivity are bad economic systems for this very reason. The more unrestrained capitalism is, the worse it is.
8   Dan8267   @   2017 Sep 19, 9:21pm  

jvolstad says
The big thing today is females in Stem careers. There is no barrier that I can see. Some of these young women however, are going to be surprised at the amount of work put in on a daily basis. Add to that, working with decades old code. Not as fun as you might think.


I've worked in software, the quintessential STEM field, my entire life. Almost half the people I've worked with are women -- not white women because they hate software development, but women nonetheless. Not once have I ever seen a woman work a single hour of unpaid overtime. It is expected on a daily basis of men.

The women who bitch and moan about there not being enough women in STEM would not be willing to do the work in STEM, not by a long shot. No woman in the history of the world has ever pulled a 90-hour work week.
9   Dan8267   @   2017 Sep 19, 9:22pm  

rando says

Every decline in the value of labor is a gain in the value of capital.


Exactly. Capitalism rewards one and only one thing: bargaining power.

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