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Should we institute temp bans?


               
2017 Nov 11, 8:05am   13,164 views  67 comments

by Goran_K   follow (4)  

#patnet

So far I think the new rules are working. The deleting of personal attacks seems to be working a lot better than “uncivil”.

However certain members are still having a hard time understanding the new rule. I've had to delete 5 straight personal attacks from errrc.

Should we institute a 24 hour ban for repeated offenses? Like being deleted 3-4 times and warned with no improvement?

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1   anonymous   2017 Nov 11, 8:11am  

How about permanent bans.
2   Goran_K   2017 Nov 11, 8:11am  

Errrc why are you acting this way ?
3   Goran_K   2017 Nov 11, 8:15am  

That may be true but the new PatNet is about debating ideas not individuals. If I’m a liar, attack my point, not me. Then I won’t be forced to delete your stuff and you’ll be less angry overall.

Excessive anger and stress has been linked to increased risk of stroke.
4   Goran_K   2017 Nov 11, 8:25am  

@Patrick

Suggestions?
5   anonymous   2017 Nov 11, 8:28am  

Goran_K says
@Patrick

Suggestions?


My suggestion is that you be removed as a moderator. This is a civil comment so lets see what you do with it.
6   Goran_K   2017 Nov 11, 8:29am  

anon_25c83 says
Goran_K says
@Patrick

Suggestions?


My suggestion is that you be removed as a moderator. This is a civil comment so lets see what you do with it.


That’s fine. How have I failed as a moderator? Shouldn’t promotions or conversely demotions be based on performance?
7   HEY YOU   2017 Nov 11, 8:29am  

The greatest personal attack: PATNETTER!
8   anonymous   2017 Nov 11, 8:32am  

Goran_K says
That’s fine. How have I failed as a moderator?


No one respects you. You have so many enemies that you are going to become the topic of every conversation. What was written above is a great example. This is why you should be removed.
9   Goran_K   2017 Nov 11, 8:34am  

anon_25c83 says
Goran_K says
That’s fine. How have I failed as a moderator?


No one respects you. You have so many enemies that you are going to become the topic of every conversation. What was written above is a great example. This is why you should be removed.


But so far I’ve not moderated anything unfairly, correct?
10   anonymous   2017 Nov 11, 8:36am  

the fact you asked tat question proves you don't even know what I'm talking about.
11   anonymous   2017 Nov 11, 8:36am  

Goran_K says
anon_25c83 says
Goran_K says
That’s fine. How have I failed as a moderator?


No one respects you. You have so many enemies that you are going to become the topic of every conversation. What was written above is a great example. This is why you should be removed.


But so far I’ve not moderated anything unfairly, correct?


Yea you keep deleting my posts. They are SFW at my job
12   Goran_K   2017 Nov 11, 8:39am  

errc says
Goran_K says
anon_25c83 says
Goran_K says
That’s fine. How have I failed as a moderator?


No one respects you. You have so many enemies that you are going to become the topic of every conversation. What was written above is a great example. This is why you should be removed.


But so far I’ve not moderated anything unfairly, correct?


Yea you keep deleting my posts. They are SFW at my job


Your post are not SFW when they are asking others to “suck their dick”. Keep it clean and I won’t delete them.
13   anonymous   2017 Nov 11, 8:41am  

You create a thread asking patrick to give you more power over other users and you wonder why people hate you so much.
14   Goran_K   2017 Nov 11, 8:44am  

anon_25c83 says
You create a thread asking patrick to give you more power over other users and you wonder why people hate you so much.


I’m not asking for power. It could be automated. If you make 4-5 straight deleted attacks then you automatically get say a 12 hour ban to “cool off”. Then 24 hours, then 3 days. Then if it continues the account could be permenantly disabled. This is not a new system when it comes to discussion websites.
15   anonymous   2017 Nov 11, 8:46am  

Goran_K says
So nothing moderated unfairly?

I thought so.

As always you completely dodge the points raised. Paint me unsurprised.
16   anonymous   2017 Nov 11, 8:46am  

Let me explain the psychology of a bully. A bully doesn't want to get rid of his victims. A bully wants torment. You want the power to temp ban people when they piss you off. It will give you pleasure.
17   Goran_K   2017 Nov 11, 8:47am  

In the end I’m trying to get the discussions way more civil. The new rules seem to be working. The recent threads have been much more readable in terms of content.
18   anonymous   2017 Nov 11, 8:48am  

Goran_K says
If you make 4-5 straight deleted attacks then you automatically get say a 12 hour ban to “cool off”

Yeah, yeah, and guess who's doing the deleting.
19   Goran_K   2017 Nov 11, 8:50am  

anon_b67e3 says
Goran_K says
If you make 4-5 straight deleted attacks then you automatically get say a 12 hour ban to “cool off”

Yeah, yeah, and guess who's doing the deleting.


Patrick, zzyzzx, Wookie and myself. Doesn’t seem like anyone is debating that the deleted content has not been justly nuked.
20   anonymous   2017 Nov 11, 8:54am  

Goran_K says
Patrick, zzyzzx, Wookie and myself. Doesn’t seem like anyone is debating that the deleted content has not been justly nuked.

You're doing the deleting in the most visited thread. Many of the people on here don't like you and you know it. And now you're asking for people to be banned after YOU've deleted them. Let's just say I'm unimpressed by your sincerity or intentions.
21   HEY YOU   2017 Nov 11, 9:00am  

All patnetters are on Time Out for one hour,maybe this will allow you to realize you are not a genius & are stuck in your value system.

It took me 68 years.
22   anonymous   2017 Nov 11, 9:01am  

Goran_K says
The recent threads have been much more readable in terms of content.

Hilarious. It's been dead, and it's just the usual suspects posting up a couple of their usual baseless love-ins of Trump.
23   Onvacation   2017 Nov 11, 9:04am  

anon_b67e3 says
baseless love-ins of Trump.

I for one do not love Trump.
But we did dodge the Hillary bullet.
24   Goran_K   2017 Nov 11, 9:06am  

anon_b67e3 says
Goran_K says
The recent threads have been much more readable in terms of content.

Hilarious. It's been dead, and it's just the usual suspects posting up a couple of their usual baseless love-ins of Trump.


But you’re back here checking and seeing the new and improved PatNet.
25   anonymous   2017 Nov 11, 9:12am  

Goran_K says
But your back here checking and seeing the new and improved PatNet.

Dropping in in exactly the same way people slow down to see a car crash you mean. PatNet is not improved with you as a moderator. It's lost 2, possibly more, of its most interesting posters, and is now utterly dominated by trolls and Trump apologists unwilling to support their claims with any kind of reasoned debate. Improved indeed, but only in your imagination.
26   anonymous   2017 Nov 11, 9:14am  

Onvacation says
anon_b67e3 says
baseless love-ins of Trump.

I for one do not love Trump.
But we did dodge the Hillary bullet.

Haven't you got some fact free nonsense to post about climate change?

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