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CO2 greenhouse effect in details


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2018 Jan 10, 3:18pm   21,516 views  70 comments

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Direct proofs of the greenhouse effect created by CO2.
https://scienceofdoom.com/roadmap/co2/



"What is interesting is seeing the actual values of longwave radiation at the earth’s surface and the comparison 1-d simulations for that particular profile. (See Part Five for a little more about 1-d simulations of the “radiative transfer equations”). The data and the mathematical model matches very well.
Is that surprising?
It shouldn’t be if you have worked your way through all the posts in this series. Calculating the radiative forcing from CO2 or any other gas is mathematically demanding but well-understood science."


"Measurements of longwave radiation at the earth’s surface help to visualize the “greenhouse” effect. For people doubting its existence this measured radiation might also help to convince them that it is a real effect!"

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66   Heraclitusstudent   2018 Jan 18, 4:43pm  

anon_d58f8 says


" However, many other chemicals are produced when wood is burnt, including one of the most potent greenhouse gases, nitrogen dioxide; although the amounts may be small (200 g of CO2 equivalent per kg of wood burnt), the gas is 300 times more potent as a greenhouse gas than carbon dioxide and lasts 120 years in the atmosphere."
https://www.transitionculture.org/2008/05/19/is-burning-wood-really-a-long-term-energy-descent-strategy/


I didn't say that it is a replacement energy, or that it is a good idea to burn wood. No one is trying to power the world by burning wood. I know very few people heating their homes by burning wood.
Nonetheless the carbon in the wood is taken from the atmosphere. No extra CO2 in the atmosphere from burning wood.
67   Heraclitusstudent   2018 Jan 18, 4:47pm  

anon_d58f8 says
Does the process of manufacturing them give off pollution and greenhouse gases?

So we should reject any solution if it's not perfect?
I know some people don't like change - any kind of change - but too bad... change happens. Deal with it.
68   FNWGMOBDVZXDNW   2018 Jan 18, 6:09pm  

anon_d58f8 says
However, many other chemicals are produced when wood is burnt, including one of the most potent greenhouse gases, nitrogen dioxide;

One of several sort things about that site is that this is incorrect. They are referring to nitrous oxide not nitrogen dioxide. Heraclitusstudent says
No one is trying to power the world by burning wood.

Europe subsidizes it. The us ships wood to Europe to be burned in power plants.
The bigger problem (rather than methane or nitrous oxide emissions) has to do with the length of time required to sequester all of that carbon in a new tree.
69   anonymous   2018 Jan 18, 8:02pm  

Heraclitusstudent says
I know very few people heating their homes by burning wood.


I doubt you'll see that in downtown LA.

ever visited anyone in flyover country?
70   anonymous   2018 Jan 18, 8:02pm  

Oh, but here's the dirty secret liberals won't tell you and won't even admit to themselves. They don't give a shit about the third world (neither do conservatives to be fair), but deep in their hearts, they are glad those people are dying because the earth is overpopulated and they need to die. Liberals have 90% of the media under their thumb, if they gave as much of a shit about preventable 3rd world diseases as they do about global warming we'd do another live aid concert and have this shit knocked out by Tuesday.

But they don't, and people are dying, and fucking hypocrites having the vapors about Donald Trump calling shitholes, shitholes are responsible for the shitholes, because we could fix them if we wanted to, yet we waste our resources building windmills and solar panels that we know for a fact won't solve the problem. Because they want them to die. Fuck you.

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