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Does Anyone Object to a Merit Based Immigration System?


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2018 Jan 11, 9:50pm   7,751 views  56 comments

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It seems like a good idea to me. My ideal system would be take all Visa applicants in a given year, stack rank them based on objective criteria like college degrees, iq tests, special skills, dollar value of employment offers, etc. Accept the top 1% (or whatever percent we want based on current needs). Immigrants could bring immediate family (spouse and children) all would get green cards and eventually citizenship. Disabled parents could be brought in on non work visas if the kid is a family type that wants to watch out for them. Siblings and cousins are out of luck but can enjoy brief visits on tourist visas.

We would reserve a small number of visas, 10k per year for refugees, but again stack ranked by hardship level, can only bring immediate family, etc.

No other visas allowed.

Does anyone have a good argument against a largely merit based system like this?

I'm going to list the objections I have heard so far to a merit based system, let me know if I'm missing anything:
- Un-American
- Current laws not enforced, if they were, current system is good enough
- Current system is good enough
- Implementation detail problems, how to rank immigrants, how to enforce / administer system, cost / complexity of system
- We don't need any new immigrants
- Too many Asians

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53   GNL   2019 Mar 14, 10:35am  

I do. Don't we think we have enough immigrants already? Shouldn't we give ourselves time to absorb them? If not, what does America become? This is a serious question.
54   Reality   2019 Mar 15, 7:19am  

Kakistocracy says
Reality says
English literacy is an existing requirement for naturalization, and has been the case for over a century . . . as is the pledge of allegiance to the US Constitution (if you consider that a religion).


Oath Of Allegiance Changed: Pledge To Military Service No Longer Required For Naturalized Citizens - this was in 2015

Naturalized citizens will no longer have to pledge to defend the United States through military service when reciting the Oath of Allegiance if they have certain religious or conscientious objections, according to a new policy set out by U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services.

https://www.ibtimes.com/oath-allegiance-changed-pledge-military-service-no-longer-required-naturalized-2021564


Conscience Objector exception does not invalidate the Oath of Allegiance requirement any more than Conscience Objector in the context of draft / selective service requirement.
55   Reality   2019 Mar 15, 7:24am  

Kakistocracy says
Reality says
Also, being in jail or on welfare should automatically disqualify a person from voting during that time.


What the fuck has someone being on welfare got to do with someone's ability or eligibility to vote?

That's a good chunk of team Trump supporters in the fly over states and old rust belt cities - got to get them clean enough off the meth and crack to get to the polls first though.

Wrap that flag tighter around yourself and get a few more signed Trump bibles to sell on E-Bay - claim to be a patriot.


Here is a well known quote from Benjamin Franklin:

"When the people find that they can vote themselves money that will herald the end of the republic."

Are you asserting that Benjamin Franklin was a Trump fan?
56   Onvacation   2019 Mar 15, 7:38am  

Kakistocracy says
What the fuck has someone being on welfare got to do with someone's ability or eligibility to vote?

"He can have no right to the benefits of Society, who will not pay his Club towards the Support of it.”
Ben Franklin

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