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How about the half that does believe start talking about solutions?
It’s colder, it’s hotter, it’s colder, it’s hotter.
Sounds like normal weather to me.
CBOEtrader saysThen explain how they did it in the 1880's.
Red herring and a troll. Great job.
Such as?
What is wrong with these two present day ideas?
1. Limit Population by curtailing immigration, and let the natural lower fertility rate bring the population to an energy and resource sustainable level.
2. Curtail imports from nations that do not manufacture those products under US style environmental laws.
Although I don't see how limiting immigration would limit world population.
Illegals are incentivized to have children once they make it across the US border. Once their kids are legal citizens, it makes it easier for the parents to stay in the US with our idiotic chain migration rules.
Whereas, if these same poor people were still stuck in shitholes like Venezuela or Honduras, they would probably have less children because they can't afford it.
I am talking about limiting immigration to 1st world countries. A person living in the US uses 100x the resources as someone in the third world.
Birth rates are actually much higher in 3rd world countries so the opposite of what you say is true.
https://www.indexmundi.com/g/r.aspx?v=25
Not in Central and South America. They are plummeting.
NOAA's numbers are out. August is the 5th warmest August in recorded history. Nasa concurs and says the solar minimum is providing some much needed cooling.
Expect snow this winter.
The level of willful stupidity and ignorance here is shocking.
How does one measure "global surface mean air temperature"? Then explain how they did it in the 1880's.
1/2 a degree is a big fucking deal right?
1. Limit Population by curtailing immigration, and let the natural lower fertility rate bring the population to an energy and resource sustainable level.
2. Curtail imports from nations that do not manufacture those products under US style environmental laws.
Thanks to the miracle of fracking natural gas (which all Democrats were against), America now leads the world in carbon reduction and oil and gas exports.
I give it about 60 human/40 non-human warming cause
Things that are for virtue signalling of Hollywood celebrities (electric, hybrid cars; fuel ethanol, etc) are useless and may in fact be causing warming as driving a Toyota Corolla might be more efficient than a hybrid WRT to CO2 emissions. Also, blaming everyone for global warming and living in a 1000000 sq ft mansion that consumes as much electricity as a whole village (hello, Al Gore) is counterproductive as well.
If Californians do not want to wait and instead something today, how about going back to clotheslines? Clothes Dryers are serious energy hogs and large populations cutting back on dryer use would cull some serious "carbon."
Also, a RAV4 hybrid (I assume that's what you meant by hybrid wrt?)gets 155 g/km CO2 emissions, and is a much heavier and larger car than a Corolla.. which gets 188 g/km (1.6l engine). Just saying.
The fixation climate change deniers have on Hollywood 'hypocrisy' when it comes to this topic mystifies me. Celebrities are using their influence to raise awareness, big deal. Are they perfect non-polluters? Certainly not. Fact is, everyone IS to blame for global warming, including Al Gore.
Interesting, how did you arrive at that number? Would love to see your research on it.
If Californians do not want to wait and instead something today, how about going back to clotheslines?
Another breakthrough tech would be a room temperature near superconductor, which would abate the line-loss that exists transmitting electricity today.
Solar works too.. And not just in desert climates! https://news.energysage.com/solar-panels-in-winter-weather-snow-affect-power-production/
What is wrong with these two present day ideas?
1. Limit Population by curtailing immigration, and let the natural lower fertility rate bring the population to an energy and resource sustainable level.
2. Curtail imports from nations that do not manufacture those products under US style environmental laws.
Need to take into account battery production, which for hybrids involve separation of rare earths, which is extremely energy-consuming. Environmental footprint for Corolla production is much smaller than for hybrids, even if it consumes more fuel when running. There was a research paper ca. 10 yrs ago which looked at this issue, but I can not track it down any more
The issue is more in cost. It takes about $20k to install enough panels to "net zero," and $20k will pay years of electric bills.
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The average global temperature dropped by more than half a degree Celsius from February 2016 to February 2018, according to recent NASA data.
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