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you are traitors. In order to discuss something there has to be some level of mutual respect involved,
CBOEtrader saysLegal immigration is A-ok everywhere and by everyoneit's not ok to me or clambo. It takes jobs from Americans what is ok about that?
That's totally fine. Doesn't make you a bad person. The wrongthink wrt topics like immigration was introduced by leftoids, enemies of civil discourse and freedom of speech and they are majorly responsible for the moralization of politics these days. The right has such few moralizing spots left such as it is not morally good to take drugs but those are few and far between.
mell says
That's totally fine. Doesn't make you a bad person. The wrongthink wrt topics like immigration was introduced by leftoids, enemies of civil discourse and freedom of speech and they are majorly responsible for the moralization of politics these days. The right has such few moralizing spots left such as it is not morally good to take drugs but those are few and far between.
I'm fine with limiting immigration, but let's be honest about the effects of it. Legal immigration adds consumers as well as employees. Immigrants create jobs as they take them.
And who is a leftoid exactly? Can you name some leftoid candidates?
Most people on the left unfortunately today
mell says
Most people on the left unfortunately today
Can you give an example? Which politicians?
But, you have to admit, that being against legal immigration is a historically Anti-American position. America was founded as the Melting Pot and Land of Opportunity.
Sure if you're against any legal immigration. The US always had legal immigration but with a quota. But sometimes you may have too many immigrants and then it may be prudent to halt most immigration for a while before resuming it.
mell saysSure if you're against any legal immigration. The US always had legal immigration but with a quota. But sometimes you may have too many immigrants and then it may be prudent to halt most immigration for a while before resuming it.
We still do. Is there someone on the left that is advocating we eliminate the quotas? Who?
The number are debated and by allowing unhinged illegal immigration.
mell saysThe number are debated and by allowing unhinged illegal immigration.
So, I take it there is actually NOBODY that is advocating for unlimited legal immigration as you earlier stated. Were you being purposely disingenuous?
Like I've said many times, its literally impossible to have a rational discussion with the right and Trump supporters.
That's exactly what the Dems are doing now. Abolish ICE, dont detain kids but also don't separate families with kids so don't detain anyone = unhinged illegal immigration.
That's exactly what the Dems are doing now. Abolish ICE, dont detain kids but also don't separate families with kids so don't detain anyone = unhinged illegal immigration.
mell says
That's exactly what the Dems are doing now. Abolish ICE, dont detain kids but also don't separate families with kids so don't detain anyone = unhinged illegal immigration.
Abolish ICE doesn't mean get rid of border security. We had border security for hundreds of years without ICE.
Again--we were talking about legal immigration though. Why do you feel the need to change the subject? Who are all the people who support unlimited legal immigration? You said that pretty much everyone on the left does. Can you not name one person?
I said unhinged illegal immigration. Wrt legal immigration the left wants to take in far more than the current administration. Same same.
Most people on the left unfortunately today. If herdingcats would mention that they are against immigration the immediate response is why are you a Nazi or why do you hate brown people / Mexicans etc. etc. And the Dems have been supporting this disastrous way of non-discourse.
Sure if you're against any legal immigration. The US always had legal immigration but with a quota. But sometimes you may have too many immigrants and then it may be prudent to halt most immigration for a while before resuming it.
mell says
I said unhinged illegal immigration. Wrt legal immigration the left wants to take in far more than the current administration. Same same.
Nope. You said this:
mell saysMost people on the left unfortunately today. If herdingcats would mention that they are against immigration the immediate response is why are you a Nazi or why do you hate brown people / Mexicans etc. etc. And the Dems have been supporting this disastrous way of non-discourse.
and this:
mell saysSure if you're against any legal immigration. The US always had legal immigration but with a quota. But sometimes you may have too many immigrants and then it may be prudent to halt most immigration for a while before resuming it.
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Nope. Everything has been answered.
On one hand Trump argues that illegals are taking our unskilled labor jobs and on the other hand Trump is giving unskilled labor jobs to foreigners, you don't see the irony in that?
Sure blame MSM decisions on Trump, lol.
No. Legal immigrants are documented and paid similarly to americans for the same job
CBOEtrader saysNo. Legal immigrants are documented and paid similarly to americans for the same job
Come on now. You think H1Bs are paid the same as citizens? Really?
H1Bs usually have a 5%-25% discount.
Everyone knows that the right wingers violence like Charlottesville ended up with one person being murdered
one example of The Left murdering anyone
So I’m 1 for 1 in showing right wingers murdering innocent Americans, driving their cars into crowds of people, JUST LIKE ISIS, and you still can’t show one example of The Left murdering anyone
A three-judge panel with Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals agreed with Trump supporter Juan Hernandez, the lead plaintiff in a federal lawsuit against the San Jose Police Department.
“San Jose PD lead us right into the protesters,” said Hernandez. “Someone needs to be held accountable for what happened. So, it’s awesome — a huge step — to know that they will be held accountable for the lack of planning and the stand-down order that they received.”
Innocent until proven guilty
The right wing nuts are out of control with baseless accusations
The reality is the oligarchs cant stand to lose control of the narrative. That is what Trump represents to them. Loss of control.
Aphroman saysSo I’m 1 for 1 in showing right wingers murdering innocent Americans, driving their cars into crowds of people, JUST LIKE ISIS, and you still can’t show one example of The Left murdering anyone
You realize violence is more than murder, yes?
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All political violence in the US is now leftists attacking Trump supporters. The opposite does not happen at all.