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Booger
2018 Dec 12, 2:22pm
Booger
2018 Dec 12, 2:22pm
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-46535552
Strasbourg shooting: Gunman shouted 'Allahu Akbar' as he attacked
Strasbourg shooting: Gunman shouted 'Allahu Akbar' as he attacked
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Bd6r
2018 Dec 12, 2:28pm
Bd6r
2018 Dec 12, 2:28pm
Booger says
That clearly shows we have no idea what his motive was. Also, Strasbourg does not have enough "gun-free zone" signs posted
Strasbourg shooting: Gunman shouted 'Allahu Akbar' as he attacked
That clearly shows we have no idea what his motive was. Also, Strasbourg does not have enough "gun-free zone" signs posted
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Bd6r
2018 Dec 12, 2:29pm
Bd6r
2018 Dec 12, 2:29pm
HeadSet says
Alexander Matrosov
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Matrosov
Numerous communists did commit suicide attacks
Alexander Matrosov
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Matrosov
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curious2
2018 Dec 12, 2:40pm
curious2
2018 Dec 12, 2:40pm
Booger says
"The gunman shouted "Allahu Akbar" ("God is greatest") as he opened fire."
Literally a few hours ago, I heard France24 talking heads telling the audience that it was too soon to speculate about the motive, the gunman was on the terrorist watch list but not considered a serious terrorist threat, no known ties, blah blah blah.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-46535552
Strasbourg shooting: Gunman shouted 'Allahu Akbar' as he attacked
"The gunman shouted "Allahu Akbar" ("God is greatest") as he opened fire."
Literally a few hours ago, I heard France24 talking heads telling the audience that it was too soon to speculate about the motive, the gunman was on the terrorist watch list but not considered a serious terrorist threat, no known ties, blah blah blah.
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HeadSet
2018 Dec 12, 2:42pm
HeadSet
2018 Dec 12, 2:42pm
d6rB says
If you are going to consider heroics in battle as "suicide attacks," then there are a few American examples where in Vietnam soldiers smothered grenades with their bodies.
HeadSet saysNumerous communists did commit suicide attacks
Alexander Matrosov
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Matrosov
If you are going to consider heroics in battle as "suicide attacks," then there are a few American examples where in Vietnam soldiers smothered grenades with their bodies.
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fdhfoiehfeoi
2018 Dec 13, 10:53am
fdhfoiehfeoi
2018 Dec 13, 10:53am
This reeks of false flag. The timing is extremely convenient for taking focus off the French people who have been protesting for a month.
Also, if you're a terrorist, when is the best time to attack? When everything is quite and people are feeling safe, or when the whole fucking country is fighting? Let your enemy fight themselves, don't stop the ship from going down.
I'll say again, false flag!
Also, if you're a terrorist, when is the best time to attack? When everything is quite and people are feeling safe, or when the whole fucking country is fighting? Let your enemy fight themselves, don't stop the ship from going down.
I'll say again, false flag!
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MisdemeanorRebel
2018 Dec 13, 10:59am
MisdemeanorRebel
2018 Dec 13, 10:59am
Rin says
It's better explained by three things:
1. Some have no kids.
2. Some wait to long and have to struggle to have one kid, then too old/infertile to have another.
3. Normal, Functional People, the robust and successful "Bourgeois Society" Rubes, still have 2-3 kids. That includes Gays adopting.
4. Immigrants receiving abundant welfare have tons of kids, which helps make babies unaffordable to native born Americans who pay the taxes and compete for affordable housing.
As for birth rates, didn't it halve between the 1960s and today? I believe that a lot of ppl are quitting after 1 kid these days. The days of 2.x kids per household are over. And I believe in the past ten years, it's been trending down from even 1.8.
It's better explained by three things:
1. Some have no kids.
2. Some wait to long and have to struggle to have one kid, then too old/infertile to have another.
3. Normal, Functional People, the robust and successful "Bourgeois Society" Rubes, still have 2-3 kids. That includes Gays adopting.
4. Immigrants receiving abundant welfare have tons of kids, which helps make babies unaffordable to native born Americans who pay the taxes and compete for affordable housing.
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curious2
2018 Dec 13, 11:13am
curious2
2018 Dec 13, 11:13am
NuttBoxer says
That depends on the motivation. For an Islamic terrorist, Christmas crowds are an ideal target. The same Christmas market had already been a target in 2000. The guy had reportedly grenades, and was likely part of a plan to stage a larger attack; then, the police raid might have caused him to accelerate his attack and then hide. There might have been a plan for the perpetrator(s) to go into hiding in order to prolong the terror throughout the Christmas shopping season, thus maximizing the damage to retailers and the economy. In general, distraction and weakness show vulnerability. Islam foments division, then exploits that division to strike, so the yellow vest protests present an ideal opportunity: crowds, division, security forces distracted by rioters, etc.
I do however respect your skepticism, because at this point we have only allegations about the perpetrator. They will take time to prove. Was he really the perpetrator, who else was involved, why was he out and about instead of incarcerated after so many prior convictions: all these questions require time to answer.
With Omar Mateen, we learned that the father had a relationship with the FBI (and I suspect CIA). That might explain why repeated FBI investigations including personal surveillance failed to identify him as a terrorist, even after co-workers had said specifically that he was a terrorist. We learned also that the soon to be merry widow knew about the plan, though the jury declared reasonable doubt as to whether she committed the specific crimes alleged: that raises another question, i.e. why didn't the FBI and DoJ investigate her more thoroughly?
It reminds me of the OJ trials for murder and wrongful death. The police might indeed have tampered with evidence, their chain of custody was definitely flawed, and the criminal prosecution failed to prove guilt beyond a reasonable doubt. Still, the civil jury found correctly that OJ had probably killed those two people.
Time will tell about the latest Strasbourg attack. I suspect the alleged gunman did probably perpetrate the attack, but that is not yet proved, and it leaves questions about who helped.
if you're a terrorist, when is the best time to attack?
That depends on the motivation. For an Islamic terrorist, Christmas crowds are an ideal target. The same Christmas market had already been a target in 2000. The guy had reportedly grenades, and was likely part of a plan to stage a larger attack; then, the police raid might have caused him to accelerate his attack and then hide. There might have been a plan for the perpetrator(s) to go into hiding in order to prolong the terror throughout the Christmas shopping season, thus maximizing the damage to retailers and the economy. In general, distraction and weakness show vulnerability. Islam foments division, then exploits that division to strike, so the yellow vest protests present an ideal opportunity: crowds, division, security forces distracted by rioters, etc.
I do however respect your skepticism, because at this point we have only allegations about the perpetrator. They will take time to prove. Was he really the perpetrator, who else was involved, why was he out and about instead of incarcerated after so many prior convictions: all these questions require time to answer.
With Omar Mateen, we learned that the father had a relationship with the FBI (and I suspect CIA). That might explain why repeated FBI investigations including personal surveillance failed to identify him as a terrorist, even after co-workers had said specifically that he was a terrorist. We learned also that the soon to be merry widow knew about the plan, though the jury declared reasonable doubt as to whether she committed the specific crimes alleged: that raises another question, i.e. why didn't the FBI and DoJ investigate her more thoroughly?
It reminds me of the OJ trials for murder and wrongful death. The police might indeed have tampered with evidence, their chain of custody was definitely flawed, and the criminal prosecution failed to prove guilt beyond a reasonable doubt. Still, the civil jury found correctly that OJ had probably killed those two people.
Time will tell about the latest Strasbourg attack. I suspect the alleged gunman did probably perpetrate the attack, but that is not yet proved, and it leaves questions about who helped.
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Rin
2018 Dec 13, 11:23am
Rin
2018 Dec 13, 11:23am
TwoScoopsOfSpaceForce says
All true, however, for point number 4, I'd say that the increased Hispanic population has actually created a near bifurcated system where for the most part, the Anglos (which doesn't mean British WASPs, but non-Spanish speaking & non-Islamic Americans) produce far fewer babies than Latinos and thus, the fact that immigrant families have from 2 to 4 babies per household, makes up for those who have 1 or 0.
It's better explained by three things:
1. Some have no kids.
2. Some wait to long and have to struggle to have one kid, then too old/infertile to have another.
3. Normal, Functional People, the robust and successful "Bourgeois Society" Rubes, still have 2-3 kids. That includes Gays adopting.
4. Immigrants receiving abundant welfare have tons of kids, which helps make babies unaffordable to native born Americans who pay the taxes and compete for affordable housing.
All true, however, for point number 4, I'd say that the increased Hispanic population has actually created a near bifurcated system where for the most part, the Anglos (which doesn't mean British WASPs, but non-Spanish speaking & non-Islamic Americans) produce far fewer babies than Latinos and thus, the fact that immigrant families have from 2 to 4 babies per household, makes up for those who have 1 or 0.
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Rin
2018 Dec 13, 11:26am
Rin
2018 Dec 13, 11:26am
Rin says
That's me!
And eventually, as resources dwindle (automation plus outsourcing) and many Hispanics become 2nd generation, it'll trickle into the Spanish speaking population.
1. Some have no kids.
That's me!
And eventually, as resources dwindle (automation plus outsourcing) and many Hispanics become 2nd generation, it'll trickle into the Spanish speaking population.
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Heraclitusstudent
2018 Dec 13, 11:32am
Heraclitusstudent
2018 Dec 13, 11:32am
NPR made an announced this morning in their news summary that a 3rd person died. The person happened to be a Muslim. (see they're the victims too).
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Heraclitusstudent
2018 Dec 13, 11:38am
Heraclitusstudent
2018 Dec 13, 11:38am
The guy was condemned 27 times in France, Germany, and Switzerland for small crimes: violence, thefts, etc...
He was in prison twice serving 2 years sentences.
They should have applied Sharia and cut his hands off. In America, he would probably still be in prison.
He was also on the file 'S' considered a terrorist risk.
He was in prison twice serving 2 years sentences.
They should have applied Sharia and cut his hands off. In America, he would probably still be in prison.
He was also on the file 'S' considered a terrorist risk.
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Strategist
2018 Dec 13, 4:48pm
Strategist
2018 Dec 13, 4:48pm
Rin says
At some point in the future underpopulation will be the problem for the whole planet.
As for birth rates, didn't it halve between the 1960s and today? I believe that a lot of ppl are quitting after 1 kid these days. The days of 2.x kids per household are over. And I believe in the past ten years, it's been trending down from even 1.8.
At some point in the future underpopulation will be the problem for the whole planet.
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Strategist
2018 Dec 13, 4:51pm
Strategist
2018 Dec 13, 4:51pm
HeadSet says
The Japanese Kamikaze targeted American Armed Forces. The Islamic coward suicide bombers target babies.
No, but the Japanese did.
The Japanese Kamikaze targeted American Armed Forces. The Islamic coward suicide bombers target babies.
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Strategist
2018 Dec 13, 4:57pm
Strategist
2018 Dec 13, 4:57pm
curious2 says
The motive could be anything. Maybe he was holding up a 7-11 to feed his hungry kids.
Literally a few hours ago, I heard France24 talking heads telling the audience that it was too soon to speculate about the motive
The motive could be anything. Maybe he was holding up a 7-11 to feed his hungry kids.
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Rin
2018 Dec 13, 5:34pm
Rin
2018 Dec 13, 5:34pm
Strategist says
I think the world will live. The problem is that the current economic system requires a new generation of suckers to buy goods/services, to keep the enchilada going.
At some point in the future underpopulation will be the problem for the whole planet.
I think the world will live. The problem is that the current economic system requires a new generation of suckers to buy goods/services, to keep the enchilada going.
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Booger
2018 Dec 13, 5:34pm
Booger
2018 Dec 13, 5:34pm
curious2 says
Doesn't matter since I'm not sure which is worse, France or Germany!
Strassburg
*Strasbourg
Doesn't matter since I'm not sure which is worse, France or Germany!
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Rin
2018 Dec 13, 5:38pm
Rin
2018 Dec 13, 5:38pm
Booger says
France wants to illegalize boinking like Femi-Nazi Sweden, so Germany is better with its FKK clubs.
Doesn't matter since I'm not sure which is worse, France or Germany!
France wants to illegalize boinking like Femi-Nazi Sweden, so Germany is better with its FKK clubs.
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Rin
2018 Dec 13, 6:34pm
Rin
2018 Dec 13, 6:34pm
Strategist says
Strategist, give up your suburban life. Seriously, if you were really a homebody, you won't want to bang.
Instead, like a number of guys, you want to bang and bang a lot!
Rin says
From now on this is the only place I will hang out in.
Strategist, give up your suburban life. Seriously, if you were really a homebody, you won't want to bang.
Instead, like a number of guys, you want to bang and bang a lot!
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