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From Too Little to Too Much Oil


               
2019 Apr 9, 8:10am   5,292 views  45 comments

by cmdrda2leak   follow (1)  


Less than 15 years ago, the conventional wisdom was that we'd reached “peak oil,” or that the U.S., and indeed the world at large, had already extracted more petroleum than what remained beneath the ground.

Then, in unheralded fashion and quite silently, American frackers and horizontal drillers made such a term entirely obsolete. The U.S. went from a superpower hobbled by an insatiable need for imported oil to the largest producer of oil and natural gas in the world and, soon, the likely largest exporter of fossil fuels. In the same vein, the Middle East and especially the Persian Gulf transmogrified from being the nexus of American foreign policy to nearly irrelevant in U.S. strategic thinking. If Saudi Arabia was once accused of virtually running American foreign policy, it is now seen at the other extreme as a minor medieval bother. A few thousand people in obscurity in the fracking industry, without government grants and without the media fawning over them as they had green legends such as Al Gore, literally changed the lives of millions of Americans at home and their country's status abroad.

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Most obviously, technology has no limits, either on its ability to transform utterly modern life or the speed at which it accomplishes such changes. Once fracking was mastered, it became ever cheaper and ever more efficient at a geometrical rate — and operated independently, as scientific breakthroughs do, from political consensus and convention.

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2   NDrLoR   @   2019 Apr 9, 8:38am  

cmdrdataleak says
Less than 15 years ago,
Who, waiting in one of those gas lines in 1977 in a 150 HP 4,500 lb. slug that got 13 MPG on the highway, or an 88 HP six cylinder "economy" car that got 15 MPG on the highway, would have predicted that 40 years later there would be so much product on the market the prices would have collapsed back to 1960's prices when adjusted for inflation. The energy industry had been communized by the government with the allocation program where a fuel outlet was only given only 80% of what its amount had been a year earlier. It created the panics just like in Russia with its shortages of everything. People didn't want their gas gauges to go below 3/4 full, so they would fill up every chance they got. But at 13 MPG, they still had to refuel more often and wound up sitting in interminable lines. No one would have guessed then that there would be 260 net HP cars that could go 0-60 in less than ten seconds and still get 20 MPG on the highway.
3   CBOEtrader   @   2019 Apr 9, 8:42am  

I remember peak oil being pushed in this forum...right up until oil proces crashed again.

Pump and dump
4   Tenpoundbass   @   2019 Apr 9, 9:51am  

Peak Earl! Peak Earl!
We're going to run out of Earl in less than 10 years!

Every Liberal Idiot and every RINO licking their chops to fuck every American in the Ass over their personal Transporation expesnes and to add a huge VAT tax to every aspect of our lives and Comerce.

Another Gem I like to laugh to is this classic number...
"Get used to $150 Oil it's never going back down!"

And who can forget the classic retort to my words of wisdom... I said:"You know if people don't buy gas, they can't keep refining Oil. Because they'll run out of storage for the refined Petrol, and you can't just burn it!"

To which the Liberal agitator brigade that must shit on every thing that is said and told in the world that violates their Commie Learnings said!

"You don't understand how the Economy works, you're on the wrong side of History, we're going to have Unicorn Fart powered everything by 2020, you're just a stupid Concerned Citizen!"

Yeah fun fucking times, Liberals don't know SHIT!
5   Tenpoundbass   @   2019 Apr 9, 9:54am  

The funny Ironic thing is, if this were 2008 - 2012, I think everything AOC said would be held as the Gospel from the highest authority.
Watching her now, is like watching that one idiot that didn't get the memo about the Water being shut off and he put a huge stinking Steamer in the toilet and it wont flush and lathered his hair up wish Shampoo. But the water is off! He can't see it but it damn sure smells like Shit up in their Liberal world.
6   kt1652   @   2019 Apr 9, 10:14am  

"The economy (whether economists realize it or not) depends on physical resources, and these are in limited supply. One piece of evidence with respect to the limited supply of oil is the fact that the cost of its extraction keeps rising. This means that fewer resources are available to be used for making other goods and services."

In a finite world, debt, like anything else, cannot keep growing.
This, gentlemen, is the real Peak Oil.
There is a lot of oil buried deep in earth or ocean, or between rock formations.
Are we going to completely destroy the earth by drilling, fracking, until every pristine wild river oozes with pollution and our beaches ruined by oil spills?
The rising cost of extraction must be passed on to the end user.
If the end user has no other energy choice, then there is no peak oil, right?
https://oilprice.com/Energy/Crude-Oil/Peak-Oil-An-Issue-of-Economics-not-Geology.html
7   Tenpoundbass   @   2019 Apr 9, 10:28am  

kt1652 says
In a finite world, debt, like anything else, cannot keep growing.
This, gentlemen, is the real Peak Oil.


New Oil is being created every second of every day, so is salt, and fresh water. Our Oceans press the excess water deep into the Earths crust where all of the Sea Snow is pressed into its purest Oil element and it collects and is also moved along in Oil aquifers.

Oil fields that dried up in Texas around the 50's were pumping out Oil during the boom a few years back. Those Oil wells went off line because they dried up. Same wells they didn't drill deeper they were tapped out. They were pulling Oil out of them as far back as 2015. Then Trump came in office and Oil prices went down, so Texans quit drilling. Not because it cost too much to extract. But because a simple Laborer in the Oil field makes a 6 figure salary. They thought Oil would $150 barrel forever.
Now those Oil folks don't want to work for $50K or $60K a year. Wait until the Mexicans replace them we'll be back $30 a barrel Oil in no time.
8   kt1652   @   2019 Apr 9, 10:38am  

"It takes millions (sometimes hundreds of millions) of years to obtain fossil fuels and this is why they are regarded as non-renewable source of fuels. Fossil fuels comprise of crude-oil, coal and gas. In general, decomposing dead plant material form coal while crude oil and gas are formed from dead marine organisms."

'Cause when I'm high, the world below don't bother me.'
That is some good weed man.

It took millions of years to create fossil fuel and at this rate we may have a few more HUNDREDs of years left of the stuff in the ground.
I am with you more than you realize, civilization has 100 or at most 200 years left before environmental annihilation. Peak oil is our least problem.
https://environmentalcritique.wordpress.com/2018/03/11/everything-is-headed-toward-annihilation/
9   Tenpoundbass   @   2019 Apr 9, 10:42am  

kt1652 says
It took millions of years to create fossil fuel and at this rate we may have a few more HUNDREDs of years left of the stuff in the ground.


Who ever said that assumed it takes Millions of years at sea level atmospheric pressure. The pressures beneath the crust at the bottom of the Ocean are 1000's of atmospheric pressures.

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