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Fuck Electric Vehicles, But More Importantly, Fuck Their Sanctimonious Owners.


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2019 May 3, 8:59am   12,392 views  296 comments

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The pathetic appeal to emotions that both EV manufacturers and their owners is starting to get tiring. If you want to drive a vehicle powered by electricity, hydrogen, corn oil, fucking bananas, thats your prerogative. But lets not pretend our vehicle purchases are turning the tide of anything.

Electricity for much of the US and world is powered through coal, its just a switch to another equal pollutant. The batteries and materials used in EVs are full of heavy metals, not to mention that when the batteries in an EV combust they fill the air with pollutants, burning heavy metals that fire departments cant extinguish. Lastly, theres not enough data on current EVs to determine their shelf life, given the materials and amount of electronics, i imagine the shelf life of an EV will be significantly shorter than that of an ICE vehicle.

Given all of that, you will still be subject to the bitching and moaning of bugmen and babies who have never changed their oil in their life. The sheer panic that these people attempt to spread and their ever changing timeline of ecological destruction is obnoxious. These arent folks who attempt to clean up India or China(our leading polluters) but they want to concentrate on stripping you of your ability to choose.

The government is only too happy to comply too. The more that bloodsucking government can entangle themselves in transportation, the more control they have over you and your movement. The government gives companies like Tesla "Credits" that they can sell to ICE manufacturers who dont develop EVs, or dont develop them to the point that the government wants. This allows failing EV companies, like Tesla, to stay afloat even though they cant run a business efficiently. Honestly this type of behavior is more akin to a villain from an Ayn Rand novel, both with the governments overreach and with the behavior of many EV owners in general.



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253   RWSGFY   2025 Mar 24, 8:55pm  

socal2 says


RWSGFY says


In the flurry of recent endorsements have any of you cats been persuaded to buy a Tesla car yet?


I got a 2nd one earlier this month. Love having 2 on my driveway as a big middle finger to the Commie Trans terrorists.



Anybody else?

PS. It's not like you needed the endorsements, lol.
254   socal2   2025 Mar 26, 7:39pm  

Many cars are going to be alot more expensive next week thanks to Trump's new tariffs.

Good thing Tesla is the most American made car in the industry.


255   MolotovCocktail   2025 Mar 26, 10:01pm  

socal2 says


Many cars are going to be alot more expensive next week thanks to Trump's new tariffs.

Good thing Tesla is the most American made car in the industry.




That infogram doesn't say shit what it actually depicts. You just say it does.

So no parts in a Tesla come from China, then?

Like most of what you post, I call bullshit.
256   MolotovCocktail   2025 Mar 26, 10:02pm  

Police arrested 33-year-old Demarqeyun Cox in Texarkana, Texas, for felony criminal mischief after he used a mini four-wheeler to smash into a Tesla at Golden Palace restaurant and damaged another at Lowe’s.



257   RWSGFY   2025 Mar 27, 7:10am  

socal2 says

Many cars are going to be alot more expensive next week thanks to Trump's new tariffs.

Good thing Tesla is the most American made car in the industry.





Elon disagrees:

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1905076240479895932

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1905102546063991237
258   MolotovCocktail   2025 Mar 27, 9:10am  

RWSGFY says

socal2 says


Many cars are going to be alot more expensive next week thanks to Trump's new tariffs.

Good thing Tesla is the most American made car in the industry.





Elon disagrees:

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1905076240479895932

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1905102546063991237


Wow! socal2 caught red handed posting pure bullshit! AGAIN!
259   WookieMan   2025 Mar 27, 10:06am  

DeportLibtards says

RWSGFY says


socal2 says



Many cars are going to be alot more expensive next week thanks to Trump's new tariffs.

Good thing Tesla is the most American made car in the industry.





Elon disagrees:

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1905076240479895932

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1905102546063991237



Wow! socal2 caught red handed posting pure bullshit! AGAIN!

Wrong or not. If you drive 10-20 miles on average it works as a daily driver. Wouldn’t for me. Likely ever without a 6 figure price tag. I’m out for that amount on a car. I’d rather spend money on vacation and other luxuries.


260   socal2   2025 Mar 27, 11:09am  

DeportLibtards says

Wow! socal2 caught red handed posting pure bullshit! AGAIN!


All Elon said is that Tesla won't be 100% unscathed from the tariffs.

But clearly Tesla will be impacted the LEAST because Tesla makes the most American made cars.

But up is down and black is white for certain Elon/TSLA haters around here......

https://www.kbb.com/car-news/report-tesla-makes-the-most-american-cars/
https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2025/03/06/top-10-most-american-cars/81746691007/
https://www.businessinsider.com/american-made-car-brands-ranked-tesla-wins-2023-6
261   socal2   2025 Mar 27, 11:12am  

WookieMan says

Wrong or not. If you drive 10-20 miles on average it works as a daily driver. Wouldn’t for me. Likely ever without a 6 figure price tag. I’m out for that amount on a car. I’d rather spend money on vacation and other luxuries.


You claim your wife makes bank. Why not treat her with the best, safest and most American Made car on the planet? Is she is hauling your toys around and driving 100's of miles a day?
262   MolotovCocktail   2025 Mar 27, 11:19am  

socal2 says

All Elon said is that Tesla won't be 100% unscathed from the tariffs.

But clearly Tesla will be impacted the LEAST because Tesla makes the most American made cars.


Wrong. He said: The cost impact is not trivial.

You then try to twist that around to claim he supports your unproven bullshit But clearly Tesla will be impacted the LEAST because Tesla makes the most American made cars.. He doesn't.
263   MolotovCocktail   2025 Mar 27, 11:22am  

socal2 says


But up is down and black is white for certain Elon/TSLA haters around here......


Nope. Calling you out for your perpetual bullshit posted on PatNet does not make us Elon/TSLA haters. Again, you twist things around to conform with your magical thinking. Which is the root of your bullshit posts, btw.
264   socal2   2025 Mar 27, 11:31am  

DeportLibtards says

Wrong. He said: The cost impact is not trivial.

You then try to twist that around to claim he supports your unproven bullshit But clearly Tesla will be impacted the LEAST because Tesla makes the most American made cars.. He doesn't.


Sigh - you don't have to make retarded arguments just to be contrarian.

Elon Musk says Trump's auto tariffs won't be a problem for Tesla
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/elon-musk-says-trumps-auto-tariffs-wont-be-a-problem-for-tesla-164553149.html


265   MolotovCocktail   2025 Mar 27, 11:55am  

socal2 says


Elon Musk says Trump's auto tariffs won't be a problem for Tesla


Caught red-handed AGAIN!

Read your own bullshit article. Musk didn't say that. Some analysts pushing Tesla stock did.

Musk in that article talks about the EV tax credit and other things. But for the tariffs he says the opposite to the bullshit that article's headline - and what you keep saying.

Also, the cars are not 100% made in America. More outright bullshit. That Musk DOES point that out.

Cut the crap, socal2.
266   socal2   2025 Mar 27, 12:05pm  

DeportLibtards says

Also, the cars are not 100% made in America. More outright bullshit. That Musk DOES point that out.


WTF are you even arguing about?

My original claim that sent you into another splenic rage was: "Good thing Tesla is the most American made car in the industry".

Have you managed to debunk this fact yet?

Assuming you can't, because there are none - now use your brain and try to understand what Trump's new car tariffs are going to do to Tesla's competitors who have a much larger percentage of their cars and spare parts assembled outside the US.
267   MolotovCocktail   2025 Mar 27, 2:51pm  

socal2 says

WTF are you even arguing about?


Nice try.

I am talking about your repeated attempts to avoid accountability for the outright bullshit you post here.

And you know it.
268   MolotovCocktail   2025 Mar 27, 2:52pm  

socal2 says

Have you managed to debunk this fact yet?


Yes. Musk did it for me...despite your false representations otherwise.
270   WookieMan   2025 Mar 28, 9:08am  

socal2 says

WookieMan says


Wrong or not. If you drive 10-20 miles on average it works as a daily driver. Wouldn’t for me. Likely ever without a 6 figure price tag. I’m out for that amount on a car. I’d rather spend money on vacation and other luxuries.


You claim your wife makes bank. Why not treat her with the best, safest and most American Made car on the planet? Is she is hauling your toys around and driving 100's of miles a day?

I drive safer cars. And yes she tows stuff and drives more than 100 miles a day M-F.

She got hit by a loaded box truck. Kids in the car. No one even noticed. It was totaled. We won’t drive small impractical cars for our needs.

It was a rear end accident. Any Tesla would have been destroyed. Not opinion. Fact. No issue with Musk or EV’s but they don’t work for 80-90% of the population.
271   RWSGFY   2025 Mar 28, 10:59am  

WTF?


272   socal2   2025 Mar 28, 11:57am  

RWSGFY says

WTF?


Pam Bondi's brother is apparently the attorney for Nikola....
273   Eric Holder   2025 Mar 28, 12:00pm  

socal2 says

RWSGFY says


WTF?


Pam Bondi's brother is apparently the attorney for Nikola....


Belongs in the corruption thread.
274   socal2   2025 Mar 28, 12:27pm  

It does seem sketch.......based on what we know now.
275   Tenpoundbass   2025 Mar 28, 12:51pm  

Auto pilot self driving robot cars to implode in 5, 4, 3, 2, 1...

https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2025/03/28/lawsuit-claiming-elon-musks-autopilot-hype-led-to-fatal-tesla-crash-advances-to-jury-trial/

I expected no less and I'm surprised it has taken this long. And lets not kid ourselves, this is happening now because of EDS.
I wonder when the battery fire law suits will begin?
276   Al_Sharpton_for_President   2025 Apr 12, 5:33am  

GM cuts 500 jobs because of weak demand for BrightDrop electric vans

General Motors is laying off 500 workers at a factory in Canada because of weak demand for its all-electric BrightDrop vans, according to CNBC.

GM told CNBC that the cuts were not related to the ongoing trade war being waged by President Donald Trump. The company is cutting one of the two shifts at the CAMI plant in Ontario, and will idle the facility for 20 weeks beginning in May.

The cuts are the newest twist in BrightDrop’s short but somewhat tumultuous history. It created BrightDrop as a separate entity within GM in 2021, but absorbed it in 2023. In 2024 BrightDrop’s vans suffered a recall after a few battery fires. Later last year, GM moved BrightDrop under the Chevy brand.

https://techcrunch.com/2025/04/11/gm-cuts-500-jobs-because-of-weak-demand-for-brightdrop-electric-vans/


277   WookieMan   2025 Apr 12, 6:32am  

Al_Sharpton_for_President says

GM cuts 500 jobs because of weak demand for BrightDrop electric vans

EV's do not work for shipping. Maybe one zip code and factoring in payload and weather/temps it probably can't even do that. A UPS truck can do multiple zip codes on one tank of gas and 1-2 tons of packages and in cold weather. You'd be lucky to get 100 miles out of an EV "shipping" vehicle.
278   komputodo   2025 Apr 12, 10:22am  

Are tesla fluffers still fluffing?
279   MolotovCocktail   2025 Apr 12, 8:35pm  

komputodo says

Are tesla fluffers still fluffing?



280   EBGuy   2025 Apr 13, 1:43am  

WookieMan says


EV's do not work for shipping.

Amazon uses Rivian electric vans. There are all over the place around here. A lot of the Amazon drivers really like them.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJv1TCK8RQY
281   WookieMan   2025 Apr 13, 5:47am  

EBGuy says

WookieMan says



EV's do not work for shipping.

Amazon uses Rivian electric vans. There are all over the place around here. A lot of the Amazon drivers really like them.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJv1TCK8RQY

Maybe in CA or the south where the climate is temperate and doesn't freeze. Anything north of I-80 you'll lose 25% or more of your battery December to March because of cold. Maybe more than that. That's a massive chuck of the population.

Also they won't work in rural areas just delivering packages. You do massive amounts of mileage as they expect you to deliver as you're expected to do multiple zip codes. It's a city vehicle as all EV's are. Most the country is rural.
282   socal2   2025 Apr 13, 6:48am  

EBGuy says

WookieMan says



EV's do not work for shipping.

Amazon uses Rivian electric vans. There are all over the place around here. A lot of the Amazon drivers really like them.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJv1TCK8RQY


FEDEX uses a new electric delivery van in my neighborhood too. Things are fast jamming up the hill to my neighborhood not slowing down traffic like the other gas delivery trucks struggling and wheezing up the hill.

The average package delivery vehicle does about 100 miles a day. And these are stop and go local traffic routes which is great for EV’s efficiencies.
283   MolotovCocktail   2025 Apr 13, 7:49am  

WookieMan says

Most the country is rural.


Most residence/business package deliveries are urban.
284   WookieMan   2025 Apr 13, 11:22am  

MolotovCocktail says

WookieMan says


Most the country is rural.


Most residence/business package deliveries are urban.

Not with Amazon or FedEx. Why waste gas 30 minutes away from a suburb or city when you can order same or next day and not leave the house? You could be in Montana and your next delivery is 20 miles away and you have to get back 100 miles.

It's okay to live your little enclave and experience the country. I've already driven 100 miles or 2 hours today. I'm not a delivery driver. They would drive 4-6x that in a day. You coastal boys don't understand this country.
285   MolotovCocktail   2025 Apr 13, 11:56am  

WookieMan says

Not with Amazon or FedEx. Why waste gas 30 minutes away from a suburb or city when you can order same or next day and not leave the house? You could be in Montana and your next delivery is 20 miles away and you have to get back 100 miles.


So? That doesn't disprove that most package deliveries are in the cities.

AGAIN: you live in this world that makes you believe everyone else does. And it simply isn't true.
286   MolotovCocktail   2025 Apr 13, 11:59am  

WookieMan says


I've already driven 100 miles or 2 hours today. I'm not a delivery driver. They would drive 4-6x that in a day.


So fucking what?

Again, it's you who lives in the enclave you claim that I do. Or rather, your reading comprehension & logic skills are fucking lame.

You can drive 500 fucking miles per day. Has no bearing on the FACT - let alone disproves - that most residence/business package deliveries are urban.

You don't even realize how much you are embarrassing yourself right now, too. Seriously.
287   Ceffer   2025 Apr 13, 6:41pm  

Again, EVs being part of the democide agenda makes perfect sense. Nukes your keister while you drive. Bake you on the inside, blow you up with unstoppable intense battery explosions while locking you in, drive you off a cliff, or even use a self driving car as a weapon against a person or persons (maybe with a nice C4 load on board).

288   HeadSet   2025 Apr 13, 6:50pm  

Interesting to see what that "Electrosmog" meter would read if placed next to a smartphone.
289   WookieMan   2025 Apr 13, 7:27pm  

MolotovCocktail says

Has no bearing on the FACT - let alone disproves - that most residence/business package deliveries are urban.

You don't even realize how much you are embarrassing yourself right now, too. Seriously.

Delivery drivers drive more in rural areas. That's fact. Indisputable. Per capita rural is higher. More miles. More deliveries because people don't want to drive 20-30 minutes to get something. EV's don't work in that environment. Again a fact.

I've literally done the job. I literally did the job as a rural carrier for USPS. City carriers were always done way earlier because they didn't drive much. You keep shitting on people about topics you know nothing about. I did the job. I know you didn't. Own your lies.
290   EBGuy   2025 Apr 14, 1:00am  

Well, this will be interesting. Per press release, Walmart will be testing BrightDrop vans in several dense urban areas AND northwest Arkansas. Per the google:
Northwest Arkansas has a significantly lower population density compared to Austin, Texas. Northwest Arkansas has a population density of 174 people per square mile, while Austin has a density of 3,006.36 people per square mile. So I guess we'll be getting our test case...
291   WookieMan   2025 Apr 14, 6:36am  

EBGuy says

Well, this will be interesting. Per press release, Walmart will be testing BrightDrop vans in several dense urban areas AND northwest Arkansas. Per the google:
Northwest Arkansas has a significantly lower population density compared to Austin, Texas. Northwest Arkansas has a population density of 174 people per square mile, while Austin has a density of 3,006.36 people per square mile. So I guess we'll be getting our test case...

Give it a shot, but I'm not seeing it if you do the math. We had routes that were 100 miles a day for ONE zip code. UPS, Fedex and those similar do multiple towns and zip codes in a day with sometimes 10 miles between towns. And usually the distribution warehouse is 20-30 miles from the first stop in rural areas.

As I've said in many threads, I have no issue with EV's. I just think the expectations for them are over inflated on realistic situations. I get regenerative braking, but you burn a ton of battery accelerating every 10th house to drop a package.

Basically I don't see rural delivery being realistic. Even Northern cities it's probable not realistic in the winter months. I don't think carriers delivering in cold weather or rural are willing to take a risk on probably a $100k investment per vehicle. I wouldn't want to own shares in the company.

Also the taxes are coming on these shipping companies for EV's. They're way heavier empty and now throw in the cargo. EV's have to start paying in to maintain the roads. Not an opinion, it's fact.
292   socal2   2025 Apr 14, 4:01pm  

Tesla seems to be working out well for a local police force in Indiana.

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"NEWS: Five years after debuting Indiana's first @Tesla police car, the Bargersville Police Department says it has saved them nearly $500,000 in maintenance and repairs.

Police chief Bertram said nothing has changed the department's commitment to their Teslas: "I couldn't even begin to say how much money the department has saved. Since 2020, I'd say we've been saving about $70,000-$80,000 a year from having our vehicles, and the more cars we get, the more savings too."

The department, which has 16 officers, started with one Tesla in 2019 and has since added another dozen.

Bertram remembers getting a monthly gas bill in June 2024 that was more than $3,100 for four Ford gas cars. That same month, he said, it cost $300 to charge all 13 electric vehicles.

The police chief also said they've never had to replace any brakes on the Teslas. That repair on gas cars can run between $1,200 and $1,500. He said the department hasn't experienced any issues or concerns with the electric cars except one that needed a battery pack changed."
https://x.com/SawyerMerritt/status/1911898087175434627

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