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But! But Tesla! <- is what our Tesla Fluffers on PatNet will say.
Heading them off at that pass: Fuck Tesla, this is an EV thread, not a Tesla-only thread.
Eh? Tesla would take about the same (or more, due to bigger battery) to fully charge on a 110V outlet. Not sure what's news here exactly. That woman being a stupid cunt who didn't do her homework before plunking down a chunk of cash?
Looking at $3-5k for electric install on top of overpaying for an EV.
But! But Tesla! <- is what our Tesla Fluffers on PatNet will say.
Heading them off at that pass: Fuck Tesla, this is an EV thread, not a Tesla-only thread.
Tesla would take about the same
Eric Holder says
Eh? Tesla would take about the same (or more, due to bigger battery) to fully charge on a 110V outlet. Not sure what's news here exactly. That woman being a stupid cunt who didn't do her homework before plunking down a chunk of cash?
Yeah, you need at least 220V on a 50amp breaker. The funny part is if you have natural gas, LED lights, efficient appliances, etc. you could power a 1,500 sq. ft. house on that. But that's what you'd need to power a car. Ain't cheap to run that at home either. Looking at $3-5k for electric install on top of overpaying for an EV. Talking a sedan too. CT or a Rivian would be even more. At least $20k in the hole.
How much gas is that? Oil change? All other maintenance is pretty similar. Maybe a starter or muffler. Still way cheaper for an ICE. Better range. Easier fill up.
Samsung’s solid-state battery
I wound up behind one the Toyota hydrogen cell cars coming into my hood in Santa Cruz. I didn't recognize the nameplate, so I looked it up. They are still in the stage of being 'wealth show off and conversation piece' cars, I presume, before improving and becoming a bit more mainstream.
I know someone in South Bay who got Mirai. He is very happy with the Car for the last about 2 years. The drawback is, he can’t drive away from Bayarea and slight anxiety about running out of hydrogen.
August EV sales in Germany were down 69% y-o-y, and down 44% across the EU.
Wonder what they are for the US.
DemocratsAreTotallyFucked says
August EV sales in Germany were down 69% y-o-y, and down 44% across the EU.
Wonder what they are for the US.
So what I want to know is:
If Elon is now the Libtards' new Hitler, then why aren't the libtards all ditching their Teslas over Devil's Slide?
https://www.visithalfmoonbay.org/discover/articles/exploring-devils-slide-and-highway-one-walk-pacific-coast-highway
They can't: Devil's Slide has been bypassed by a tunnel.
So what I want to know is:
If Elon is now the Libtards' new Hitler, then why aren't the libtards all ditching their Teslas over Devil's Slide?
DOGEWontAmountToShit says
So what I want to know is:
If Elon is now the Libtards' new Hitler, then why aren't the libtards all ditching their Teslas over Devil's Slide?
Because Tesla's are so amazingly safe that the fall wouldn't kill them.
Remember the 4 people that survived last year after the husband/driver tried to kill the whole family at Devil's Slide?
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/tesla-california-cliff-2-kids-2-adults-survive-miracle/
TESLA HAS HIGHEST RATE OF DEADLY ACCIDENTS AMONG CAR BRANDS, STUDY FINDS
Despite the company's claim that its vehicles are "engineered to be the safest in the world," the Model S and Model Y rank among the most dangerous automobiles
By MILES KLEE
NOVEMBER 21, 2024
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Analyzing fatal collisions from 2017 to 2022 involving 2018 to 2022 car models, the group identified the Tesla Model S and Tesla Model Y as two of the most dangerous cars on the road by occupant fatality rate. Though models from Hyundai, Chevrolet, Mitsubishi, Porsche, and Honda occupied the top five spots on the list, the Tesla Model S, a mid-size SUV, came in sixth, with a fatal accident rate 3.7 times higher than the average car, and 4.8 times higher than the average SUV. The Model S rate is double that of the average car.
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The auto company had 5.6 fatal accidents per billion miles traveled by its vehicles, narrowly edging out Kia, with 5.5 per billion miles, as the brand with the overall highest rate of deadly accidents. This, the iSeeCars study notes, is “despite Tesla’s advanced driver-assist technology,” with features including so-called Autopilot and Full-Self Driving (FSD), which are meant to reduce human error.
Anecdotes vs data:
RWSGFY says
Anecdotes vs data:
Yeah - this bit of FUD was floating around by the Elon haters earlier this week.
The main reason for the higher fatality rate is that the car is Ferrari/Lamborghini fast and there are alot of drivers not used to that much power and speed. They think they are just getting a standard sedan or SUV, not appreciating how unbelievably powerful they are.
So fall from Devil's Slide won't kill you in Tesla but driving it as intended will? And this is better how?
Eric Holder says
So fall from Devil's Slide won't kill you in Tesla but driving it as intended will? And this is better how?
Driving a Tesla 120+ mph and wrapping it around a telephone pole is not "driving it as intended".
Are you implying that the percentage of idiots is higher among Tesla drivers so much so they manage to kill themselves even in Devil Slide proof car?
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Electricity for much of the US and world is powered through coal, its just a switch to another equal pollutant. The batteries and materials used in EVs are full of heavy metals, not to mention that when the batteries in an EV combust they fill the air with pollutants, burning heavy metals that fire departments cant extinguish. Lastly, theres not enough data on current EVs to determine their shelf life, given the materials and amount of electronics, i imagine the shelf life of an EV will be significantly shorter than that of an ICE vehicle.
Given all of that, you will still be subject to the bitching and moaning of bugmen and babies who have never changed their oil in their life. The sheer panic that these people attempt to spread and their ever changing timeline of ecological destruction is obnoxious. These arent folks who attempt to clean up India or China(our leading polluters) but they want to concentrate on stripping you of your ability to choose.
The government is only too happy to comply too. The more that bloodsucking government can entangle themselves in transportation, the more control they have over you and your movement. The government gives companies like Tesla "Credits" that they can sell to ICE manufacturers who dont develop EVs, or dont develop them to the point that the government wants. This allows failing EV companies, like Tesla, to stay afloat even though they cant run a business efficiently. Honestly this type of behavior is more akin to a villain from an Ayn Rand novel, both with the governments overreach and with the behavior of many EV owners in general.