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Fuck Electric Vehicles, But More Importantly, Fuck Their Sanctimonious Owners.


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2019 May 3, 8:59am   6,145 views  87 comments

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The pathetic appeal to emotions that both EV manufacturers and their owners is starting to get tiring. If you want to drive a vehicle powered by electricity, hydrogen, corn oil, fucking bananas, thats your prerogative. But lets not pretend our vehicle purchases are turning the tide of anything.

Electricity for much of the US and world is powered through coal, its just a switch to another equal pollutant. The batteries and materials used in EVs are full of heavy metals, not to mention that when the batteries in an EV combust they fill the air with pollutants, burning heavy metals that fire departments cant extinguish. Lastly, theres not enough data on current EVs to determine their shelf life, given the materials and amount of electronics, i imagine the shelf life of an EV will be significantly shorter than that of an ICE vehicle.

Given all of that, you will still be subject to the bitching and moaning of bugmen and babies who have never changed their oil in their life. The sheer panic that these people attempt to spread and their ever changing timeline of ecological destruction is obnoxious. These arent folks who attempt to clean up India or China(our leading polluters) but they want to concentrate on stripping you of your ability to choose.

The government is only too happy to comply too. The more that bloodsucking government can entangle themselves in transportation, the more control they have over you and your movement. The government gives companies like Tesla "Credits" that they can sell to ICE manufacturers who dont develop EVs, or dont develop them to the point that the government wants. This allows failing EV companies, like Tesla, to stay afloat even though they cant run a business efficiently. Honestly this type of behavior is more akin to a villain from an Ayn Rand novel, both with the governments overreach and with the behavior of many EV owners in general.



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69   Stout   2024 Aug 28, 6:45am  

https://www.rideapart.com/news/728316/samsung-ss-ev-battery-coming-soon/

How does a 20-year lifespan and a nine-minute charging time sound?

Plus, Samsung’s solid-state battery comes with all the perks associated with these types of batteries including lighter weight and improved safety thanks to a more stable thermal balance. But perhaps the best part is that Samsung’s solid-state battery tech has around 500 watt-hours per kilogram. That’s nearly double the energy density of the batteries found in most EVs today. And so in the real world, we could be looking at about 600 miles of range on a single charge.
70   zzyzzx   2024 Aug 28, 7:41am  

Stout says

Samsung’s solid-state battery


https://www.newscientist.com/article/2398896-what-are-solid-state-batteries-and-why-do-we-need-them/
What are solid-state batteries and why do we need them?
Batteries containing solid electrolytes have many theoretical benefits, but a technique to manufacture them cheaply has been elusive

It has electrolytes


72   Ceffer   2024 Aug 30, 11:12pm  

LOL! Cybertrucks are bullet proof but blow up in the rain?
73   Ceffer   2024 Aug 30, 11:16pm  

I wound up behind one the Toyota hydrogen cell cars coming into my hood in Santa Cruz. I didn't recognize the nameplate, so I looked it up. They are still in the stage of being 'wealth show off and conversation piece' cars, I presume, before improving and becoming a bit more mainstream.
74   Ceffer   2024 Sep 5, 8:01pm  

Regular computerized cars can be kill boxes, too, but I guess electric cars are state of the art. I had a strange experience tonite. I was idling in the driveway waiting for my wife before we were going to Santa Cruz. The retired judge next door and his new squeeze drove by behind our car and when they were right behind me, the electronics of my car shut down for a moment until they drove by to their house, then they came back on. I have to figure out what kind of jamming is going on there.



75   RWSGFY   2024 Sep 5, 10:53pm  

Ceffer says

I wound up behind one the Toyota hydrogen cell cars coming into my hood in Santa Cruz. I didn't recognize the nameplate, so I looked it up. They are still in the stage of being 'wealth show off and conversation piece' cars, I presume, before improving and becoming a bit more mainstream.


No they are not: you can get a 2 yo one for $15K with a $15K fuel card on the hood. Hardly a "wealth show off", LOL.
76   Ceffer   2024 Sep 5, 11:05pm  

Makes them sound quite do-able.

77   Blue   2024 Sep 5, 11:35pm  

I know someone in South Bay who got Mirai. He is very happy with the Car for the last about 2 years. The drawback is, he can’t drive away from Bayarea and slight anxiety about running out of hydrogen.
Once, elsewhere I owned a car that runs with both LPG and regular gas. With simple flip switch, fuel source can be changed. Perhaps, those models could make sense financially in US as well.
78   WookieMan   2024 Sep 6, 7:25am  

Gas/oil is proven. I ain't switching. I know multiple EV owners, they're not popular here in IL. They all have had dead batteries at some point. I'm V8 or bust. I tow weekly. Carpool and pick up or drop off up to 6 kids. No EV meets those specs. No range anxiety.

They're zippy cars. If your dick is that small then own it. I'd say the same of Corvette owners. A to B, function and reliability. ICE has all. Even if it wasn't overpriced like they are, I ain't touching them over the utility factor.
79   RWSGFY   2024 Sep 6, 8:15am  

Blue says


I know someone in South Bay who got Mirai. He is very happy with the Car for the last about 2 years. The drawback is, he can’t drive away from Bayarea and slight anxiety about running out of hydrogen.


There are no more than 5 hydrogen filling station in the whole Bay Area and if you read reviews on google maps they are down more time then they are up. So in addition to hydrogen price tripling over the last year or two you are dealing with the hassle of driving out of your way to fill up and maybe driving some more if the station you drove to is down. Then there is waiting in line because sometimes the station is crowded and sometimes the nozzle freezes to the car and you need to wait consideable time for it to unfreeze. It's a shitshow and a major PITA.
80   DemocratsAreTotallyFucked   2024 Sep 20, 10:32am  

DemocratsAreTotallyFucked says

August EV sales in Germany were down 69% y-o-y, and down 44% across the EU.

Wonder what they are for the US.
81   socal2   2024 Sep 20, 12:45pm  

DemocratsAreTotallyFucked says

DemocratsAreTotallyFucked says


August EV sales in Germany were down 69% y-o-y, and down 44% across the EU.

Wonder what they are for the US.



Can't imagine it has anything to do with this.

German economy unexpectedly shrinks, inflation ticks higher
https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/german-economy-unexpectedly-shrank-by-01-second-quarter-2024-07-30/
82   DemocratsAreTotallyFucked   2024 Sep 20, 1:39pm  

socal2 says

Can't imagine it has anything to do with this.



83   socal2   2024 Sep 20, 2:42pm  

Once the envy of the world, Germany’s car brands now weigh heavily on its struggling economy

Germany’s car industry was once recognized around the world for its high-quality, innovative internal combustion engine cars. Owning a German car was a luxury and status symbol. And carmakers were thriving, boosting the country’s economy.

But the picture has since become bleaker.

The latest example is the developments at Volkswagen
— which earlier this week said it was no longer able to rule out plant closures in its native Germany and felt it may need to end its employment protection agreement that has been in place in the country since 1994.

https://www.cnbc.com/2024/09/06/once-the-envy-of-the-world-germanys-car-brands-are-weighing-heavily-on-its-struggling-economy.html
84   DemocratsAreTotallyFucked   2024 Oct 2, 11:39pm  

Yes, EV Fluffers of PatNet! Do tell us what this light means...

Ceffer says



86   Ceffer   2024 Oct 27, 2:25pm  

Did I leave the seat warmer on high, or did I do something to offend the Deep State?

https://t.me/followsthewhiterabbit/99991
87   DemocratsAreTotallyFucked   2024 Oct 31, 5:59pm  

This one reminds me of a typical conversation on PatNet involving @socal2

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