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The end game has several points:

Investigating Trump is offense against investigating the Biden's and an other politicians who got themselves and family members rich only after being elected.

De-popularizing Trump. If Trump has a great turnout in 2020, the Trump voters may vote for down office Republicans while they are at it, thus taking back the House and local offices.

Get ahead of the upcoming Barr and IG reports by claiming any action against Clapper, Brennan, and other Steele Dossier crooks is "political payback."

HeadSet says

Investigating Trump is offense against investigating the Biden's and an other politicians who got themselves and family members rich only after being elected.

Yeah, but this is too cynical for me. Sure Biden is clearly corrupt and screwed at this point, but most dems aren’t on the dole from Ukraine, why go to bat for him?

I think your final point is most correct. AG is about to drop something huge and dems are scrambling.

Yeah, but this is too cynical for me. Sure Biden is clearly corrupt and screwed at this point, but most dems aren’t on the dole from Ukraine, why go to bat for him?

True, most Dems not on the Ukraine dole, but that examining that pay-for-play may wet the appetite to look into any other pay-to-play, Burisma or not. Powerful Dems who benefited financial from their office have pushed the other Dems to fight Trump now to nip the Biden investigation in the bud.

HeadSet says

Investigating Trump is offense against investigating the Biden's and an other politicians who got themselves and family members rich only after being elected.

De-popularizing Trump. If Trump has a great turnout in 2020, the Trump voters may vote for down office Republicans while they are at it, thus taking back the House and local offices.

Get ahead of the upcoming Barr and IG reports by claiming any action against Clapper, Brennan, and other Steele Dossier crooks is "political payback."

Exactly this.

Also: Other than Warren and Bernie, I feel like all the Dems on that stage aren't really running for President, but to establish credentials or notice.

ignoreme says

Biden is clearly corrupt and screwed at this point, but most dems aren’t on the dole from Ukraine, why go to bat for him?

Biden is representative of the whole party.

ignoreme says

What’s the endgame for dems? If they vote articles then senate is just going to call up Hunter and ask him what he was doing to add 50K per month of value to Burisma. That can’t be good for Biden... no way they can actually flip 20 senators to remove Trump... obviously the TDS folks eat this up, but they aren’t voting trump anyways... what’s the point? Serious question.

The biggest non starter elephant in the room is, 6 Democrat Senators are running for President.

I would love to see them reconcile voting in the impeachment of Trump. An impeachment solely based on Trump making a political move against a political opponent(f you believe the Libcom's narrative)

That's 6 Democrat Senators that will have to recuse themselves. We just don't have enough Mitt Romney's in the Senate to make up the difference.
Sorry Loser Libcoms, no tickey no Laundry you Nematodes!

FUCK! Why are they so Daff and inept?

Tenpoundbass says

FUCK! Why are they so Daff and inept?

Desperation. Anything to deflect attention from their failed policies.

Also this. A Senate "Ukrainian Caucus" was established in Feb 2015. These guys are in it:

John Barrasso (R-WY)
Richard Blumenthal (D-CT)
Sherrod Brown (D-OH)
Bob Casey (D-PA)
Ben Cardin (D-MD)
Dick Durbin (D-IL)
Joni Ernst (R-IA)
Ron Johnson (R-WI)
Amy Klobuchar (D-MN)
James Inhofe (R-OK)
Chris Murphy (D-CT)
Gary Peters (D-MI)
Rob Portman (R-OH)
Marco Rubio (R-FL)
Jeanne Shaheen (D-NH)
Pat Toomey (R-PA)

The House has 41 member in its "Ukrainian Caucus,"

Endgame is power and control. Lots of taxes, when they take from us they call it “revenues” for themselves. Fuckers don’t even hide how they take our money.