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mell says

Fuck the church GW - we need GW now! And a real globull warming not this hoax of changes within the margin of error. Bring a good summer already and let's eradicate CV. FFS it's almost snowing in the bay area.

We need as much hot and humid weather as possible ASAP! I'm going to drive my giant SUV around the cul-de-sac for 20 hours per day to accelerate the fucking AGW!!!

Thinking about the Coming Ice Age in light of the Coronahype. All scientists agree! The models! Zero Population Growth! It's math! No unlimited growth on a limited world.

Same arguments, recycled.

Heraclitusstudent says

The climate is essentially static

No. The climate is a dynamic system that is constantly changing. Ever hear about the medieval warming period, the little ice age, or the American dust bowl? If the climate is static what happened to the Anasazi?

Onvacation says

No. The climate is a dynamic system that is constantly changing. Ever hear about the medieval warming period, the little ice age, or the American dust bowl? If the climate is static what happened to the Anasazi?

In my film I used the example of petrified trees in the Arizona desert to show what real climate change looks like over the course of time. I also think the records of crops being grown in Greenland should serve as a real gauge of global warming. Until those same crops can be grown on Greenland, I will be skeptical that the Earth is warmer now than most of recorded history. While the surface temperature graph does show a clear pattern of warming, there is no way that a legitimate scientist would consider measurements from the 1800s to be as accurate as a modern digital thermometer.

Onvacation says

97% of scientists and you won't name one. I continue to call fraud.

I can help out.

Michael Mann - He came up with the "hockey stick" correlating temperatures to tree rings. He was also the central figure in the "Climategate" scandal. He recently lost a lawsuit in Canada for not providing his data to the court where he was suing a skeptic for defamation.

https://www.thegwpf.com/media-ignores-michael-manns-court-loss-it-doesnt-fit-the-warmist-agenda/

The best one, since alarmists love linking to Skeptical Science and NASA, is James Hansen. He is known for making outlandish predictions about NY and other coastal cities being submerged by rising sea levels. He was the head of the NASA Goddard Institute. The alarmists have tried backpedaling this claim. They say:

A. He didn't say that.
B. He is misquoted out of context in an interview where he speculated what would happen if CO2 levels doubled in 20, revised to 40 years. There is grayness there since we can't prove that the scenario was his prediction or a fresh scenario asked by the interviewer.

That's where YouTube is so useful, as it serves as a wonderful archive. So, for the denying alarmists, here is James Hansen, in his own words predicting submerged cities by the end of the 20th century.

https://www.youtube.com/embed/T9KzeQJZUEw

The sad part is he is still a quoted and respected expert in the climate scare cult, as opposed to me, a hobbyist filmmaker who puts up with a lot of disrespect for merely sharing this stuff.

Malcolm says

Several prominent climatologists are interviewed in this episode where they were predicting an impending ice age.

Climate skeptics tend to use this as grist for "Scientists don't know what they're talking about 30 years ago they were predicting an ice age FFS" level hand waving and dismissals. They never point out that until the early 70s, particulate and aerosol emissions strongly counteracted the warming potential of CO2. These pollutants were relatively easy to remove from smokestack and transportation sources, leaving CO2 as a primary anthropogenic driver of climate.

Automan Empire says

leaving CO2 as a primary anthropogenic driver of climate.

No it's not.



And of the 5% caused by "anthropogenic" releases only 15% is caused by the US.

Automan Empire says

Climate skeptics tend to use this as grist for "Scientists don't know what they're talking about 30 years ago they were predicting an ice age FFS" level hand waving and dismissals. They never point out that until the early 70s, particulate and aerosol emissions strongly counteracted the warming potential of CO2. These pollutants were relatively easy to remove from smokestack and transportation sources, leaving CO2 as a primary anthropogenic driver of climate.

That's interesting conjecture. I have not heard that theory before, but it would still not account for the lack of tropospheric warming, which is actually a more believable measure as it is taken from satellites, verses a graph of land stations taken with inconsistent measuring devices in changing locations over the course of 140 years or so. You theoretically can't have surface warming without warming above it, the heat has to go somewhere. It would also not correlate to the extreme warmth of the 1930s and 1940s.

Onvacation says

No it's not.



And of the 5% caused by "anthropogenic" releases only 15% is caused by the US.

I was saving that one for later, as I try to be open minded to new spins of data inconsistencies.

It turns out the drought, dust bowl, and record temps of the 1930's never happened. Check out the video and see how the temperaturs of the 1930's were "normal".
https://www.youtube.com/embed/8RwBInEg_YM

Onvacation says

It turns out the drought, dust bowl, and record temps of the 1930's never happened. Check out the video and see how the temperaturs of the 1930's were "normal".

I'll check it out. but my numbers are straight from NOAA's state temperature extremes. I graphed it for my documentary.

And on the global level the 40s are well documented in NASA charts, that they actually revised to eliminate that warm period. BTW, your animation clearly showed a burst of heat during the 30s and 40s. Sorry if I am preaching to the choir. Sometimes sarcasm is lost on me.

HEYYOU says

"Exclusive Poll: 80% of Young Voters Think ‘Global Warming Is a Major Threat to Life as We Know It’

And that is why we should not lie to scare kids!

www.youtube.com/embed/0UIB9Y4OFPs

This song is great, it's about how people in the 80s really wanted sugar, after years of soaking leather belts in soup to have something to eat. After all, Dr. Paul Ehrlich predicted starvation in North America at that time.