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Corona virus (more correctly, Wuhan virus)


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2020 Jan 24, 12:33pm   191,142 views  3,372 comments

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Anyone wants to risk a bet on the eventual number of sick people? Dead people?

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2559   zzyzzx   2021 Aug 3, 8:48am  

More gaslighting:
2560   DhammaStep   2021 Aug 3, 12:19pm  

[First post here. Hello. Nice site.]

Here in NYC, Mayor De Blasio has mandated that all indoor dining, gyms and entertainment venues require proof of vaccine. It truly is madness that this blatant loophole in the legal system is going through, but that's life with people who don't care about learning about their world.

I had a disturbing encounter the other day. I was speaking with a friend about how people that wear masks simply don't know the science, to which an older aged white woman wearing a mask stops and asks me to repeat myself. I explain to her how tiny virus particles are in relation to the holes in the mask. I continue by mentioning that doubling down on mask mandates is pointless because the vaccine isn't as effective as they thought. The moment I mention vaccine, I could see the fear switch flip in her head and all logic went out the window. She began screaming at me about how she wished I would never take a vaccine and die. She looked exactly like a frightened animal, cornered and scared as if their lives were about to end. It's really disturbing that she would wish death on others, yet most frightening of all, she doesn't realize humanity survived 99.99% of its time here without vaccines at all. Forget explaining natural immunity.

I suppose the moral of the story is, NYC has many such elderly women who appear to feed on fear and suffering who will always want people they don't like crushed because they envision some utopia is just one more news cycle problem away from existing.
2561   Patrick   2021 Aug 3, 12:29pm  

Welcome, @DhammaStep

Her fear is being abused for the profit of Pfizer, Moderna, etc.

What, if anything, would convince her of that? I'm not sure that even signed confessions by Fauci and the Big Pharma CEOs would do it.
2563   zzyzzx   2021 Aug 4, 8:38am  

More gaslighting:
2564   WookieMan   2021 Aug 4, 8:57am  

zzyzzx says
More gaslighting:

I'm just printing a card with a hospital letterhead that says I cannot be vaccinate because of some random illness/ailment that could cause me to die from the jab (if I have to). I heard forging the CDC cards could be a felony from those that listen to styxx. Need to verify that. Not sure who would actually enforce that though.

I'd put the legit number on there for the hospital. Then if they call to verify, they'd have to ask me for permission for medical records. Answer..... NO. Shit, they wouldn't even get to that point unless it was another medical facility. Image a restaurant or airline calling. Threaten to sue for discrimination for a medical disorder and you should be good.

I think that's the better route instead of the CDC card. All likely legal as it forces the person to acknowledge it's illegal to ask about medical conditions 99% of the time outside of the medical field or doc visit. They cannot release medical info without your permission and they cannot then prove you made a forged medical note/card/letter without a fuck ton of legal fees.
2566   Patrick   2021 Aug 4, 11:28am  

Sounds like that lovely Antibody Dependent Enhancement!

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33113270/


Results of the study: COVID-19 vaccines designed to elicit neutralising antibodies may sensitise vaccine recipients to more severe disease than if they were not vaccinated. Vaccines for SARS, MERS and RSV have never been approved, and the data generated in the development and testing of these vaccines suggest a serious mechanistic concern: that vaccines designed empirically using the traditional approach (consisting of the unmodified or minimally modified coronavirus viral spike to elicit neutralising antibodies), be they composed of protein, viral vector, DNA or RNA and irrespective of delivery method, may worsen COVID-19 disease via antibody-dependent enhancement (ADE). This risk is sufficiently obscured in clinical trial protocols and consent forms for ongoing COVID-19 vaccine trials that adequate patient comprehension of this risk is unlikely to occur, obviating truly informed consent by subjects in these trials.
2567   Patrick   2021 Aug 4, 11:30am  

zzyzzx says


Excellent illustration of how "hate speech" laws are thin cover for vilifying and ultimately imprisoning or murdering political dissidents.

Very much like how if you want to have a political opponent killed in Pakistan, you simply accuse him of desecrating the Koran. The mob will kill him for you, and if not, you can have him killed by the government.
2568   HeadSet   2021 Aug 4, 12:52pm  

WookieMan says
I heard forging the CDC cards could be a felony from those that listen to styxx. Need to verify that. Not sure who would actually enforce that though.


Canada:
https://news.yahoo.com/canada-fines-travellers-fake-vaccination-175109810.html
2569   Eric Holder   2021 Aug 4, 1:24pm  

HeadSet says
WookieMan says
I heard forging the CDC cards could be a felony from those that listen to styxx. Need to verify that. Not sure who would actually enforce that though.


Canada:
https://news.yahoo.com/canada-fines-travellers-fake-vaccination-175109810.html


Could be a fake story to "scare straight". I can't imagine how they could determine that, say, CVS test results with date changed in an editor and then re-exported into PDF and printed out could be determined as "not real" by some mouth-breathing border cop.
2571   RC2006   2021 Aug 5, 6:02am  

So Biden to require all visitors to US to have had vaccine, but unvaccinated illegals that test positive are shipped all over US on planes and busses.
2572   WookieMan   2021 Aug 5, 6:51am  

Eric Holder says
Could be a fake story to "scare straight". I can't imagine how they could determine that, say, CVS test results with date changed in an editor and then re-exported into PDF and printed out could be determined as "not real" by some mouth-breathing border cop.

Fake vaccine cards though not tests. I'll chat with my SIL this coming weekend. We're headed up to Door County, WI for a couple of days before she goes to the UK for her husbands season.

She can cross the border via vehicle from Canada, but her husband has to fly into Duluth, MN from Thunder Bay just north. Literally a 30 minute flight. She has to drive their car so they can get around here in Wisconsin and IL for a couple weeks.

I'll ask about their initial border crossing into Canada as well. Both have had Covid. SIL is pregnant, so not sure vaccine status. I don't believe they're giving it to pregnant women, but who knows. The fact it's being forced on us it wouldn't surprise me at all if a pregnant woman could get it.
2573   clambo   2021 Aug 5, 7:06am  

I was on the phone with a friend who is an anesthesiologist in San Diego.
He has a deep liberal bias, I can guess the reason.
Anyway last night he said that he was bored with people talking about the anti-vaxxers.

I said that the people who are not getting the vaccine are reacting to the media crying wolf for so long.
The old story is Peter and the Wolf, he was yelling about an imaginary wolf so much that a real wolf showed up and nobody believed his warning, he had lost his credibility.

I said I saw Fauci contradict himself on TV. My friend started to argue that I was wrong and I said I am not schizophrenic and don’t hallucinate.

The people know Biden didn’t win, but they are called nuts and are censored for an opinion.

He sort of flipped out but he wanted to change the subject.

I said although I took the shot, I understand why some won’t. I bet those who won’t take the shot don’t know anyone who has died, so they aren’t afraid.

I only know one person who was sick, my older brother. He isn’t in shape and has asthma but he was not put on a ventilator, rather he was given fluids because he didn’t eat nor drink for awhile.
2574   Robert Sproul   2021 Aug 5, 7:09am  

Patrick says
Sounds like that lovely Antibody Dependent Enhancement!

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33113270/

Um...the preferred term is Delta Variant or Lambada Variant.
2575   zzyzzx   2021 Aug 5, 9:08am  

Can't turn away a gay couple at the bakery but you can refuse to serve the unvaccinated?
2579   Patrick   2021 Aug 5, 10:58am  

I lose respect for Sweden when I hear things like this.
2590   Patrick   2021 Aug 7, 8:51pm  

Booger says


Very true.
2591   Patrick   2021 Aug 7, 11:23pm  


Larry Sanger @lsanger 7h
If the government really put your welfare above corporate interests, they would have made a one-time lump payment for the formula for the production of these all-important vaccines, which would then be made public.


https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/larry-sanger-astonishing-hubris-global-experimental-vaccine
2592   Patrick   2021 Aug 7, 11:34pm  



Larry Sanger
@lsanger
Aug 4
Clarifications inspired by a convo with a friend:
- It was no single, unified body that started the push. It was a small, interconnected group of powerful orgs and influencers (Big Pharma, WHO, WEF, CDC, Fauci, Gates, etc.)
- There's a massive int'l push for a global vaxx system.

Larry Sanger
@lsanger
Aug 4
- Moreover, while there is indeed a variety of vaccines that work differently, they share something crucial in common: they all just happen to train your immune system to produce these spike proteins.
- The point, again, is: no one should have so much power
2596   FortWayneAsNancyPelosiHaircut   2021 Aug 8, 9:14am  

Tenpoundbass says
LOL! That sounds like something the Leftards would dream up, to stop sensible people from telling idiots, that their mask doesn't work because they can smell a fart through them.
Which it just only goes to further prove the point, especially if it were at all true.
Or they could start mandating full respirators to be out in public.


i want credit. i figured they'll force butt masks to cover for covid farts... i was joking... but considering the absurdity of everything lately I don't see why not. butt plugs for the left, 2022

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