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Corona virus (more correctly, Wuhan virus)


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2020 Jan 24, 12:33pm   195,257 views  3,372 comments

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Anyone wants to risk a bet on the eventual number of sick people? Dead people?

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987   Patrick   2020 Mar 19, 8:50am  

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-020-00758-2

How does COVID-19 compare to other diseases?
Current estimates of COVID-19’s case fatality rate — a measure of the proportion of infected people who eventually die — suggest that the coronavirus is less deadly than the pathogens behind other large-scale outbreaks, such as of SARS (severe acute respiratory syndrome), MERS (Middle East respiratory syndrome) and Ebola.

But the infection also seems to spread more easily than other diseases, including seasonal influenza. Calculations of the virus’s basic reproduction number, or R0 — the number of people on average one infected person will pass the virus to — suggest a range of 2–2.5.


989   mell   2020 Mar 19, 6:20pm  

TEOTWAWKI says
A Coronavirus Explosion Was Expected in Japan. Where Is It?

Japan was one of first countries outside of China hit by the coronavirus and now it’s one of the least-affected among developed nations. That’s puzzling health experts.
Unlike China’s draconian isolation measures, the mass quarantine in much of Europe and big U.S. cities ordering people to shelter in place, Japan has imposed no lockdown. While there have been disruptions caused by school closures, life continues as normal for much of the population. Tokyo rush hour trains are still packed and restaurants remain open.
The looming question is whether Japan has dodged a bullet or is about to be hit.

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“Italy’s mortality rate is almost triple Japan’s,” said Yoko Tsukamoto, a professor of infection control at the Health Sciences University of Hokkaido. “Part of the reason is if you get tested, you get quarantined, so it means that they don’t have enough beds for relatively non-severe patients....


Well you know why. The Japanese are polite and clean. Basic hygiene and manners go a long way.
993   Patrick   2020 Mar 19, 10:45pm  

Strangely, the general health of the public gets better during depressions:

Recent events highlight the importance of examining the impact of economic downturns on population health. The Great Depression of the 1930s was the most important economic downturn in the U.S. in the twentieth century. We used historical life expectancy and mortality data to examine associations of economic growth with population health for the period 1920–1940. We conducted descriptive analyses of trends and examined associations between annual changes in health indicators and annual changes in economic activity using correlations and regression models. Population health did not decline and indeed generally improved during the 4 years of the Great Depression, 1930–1933, with mortality decreasing for almost all ages, and life expectancy increasing by several years in males, females, whites, and nonwhites. For most age groups, mortality tended to peak during years of strong economic expansion (such as 1923, 1926, 1929, and 1936–1937). In contrast, the recessions of 1921, 1930–1933, and 1938 coincided with declines in mortality and gains in life expectancy. The only exception was suicide mortality which increased during the Great Depression, but accounted for less than 2% of deaths. Correlation and regression analyses confirmed a significant negative effect of economic expansions on health gains. The evolution of population health during the years 1920–1940 confirms the counterintuitive hypothesis that, as in other historical periods and market economies, population health tends to evolve better during recessions than in expansions.


https://www.pnas.org/content/106/41/17290
994   Patrick   2020 Mar 20, 8:23am  

Huh, Wuhan virus disproportionately affects areas that vote for globalist Democrats. Karma at work?

To be certain, COVID-19 is hammering the entire U.S., regardless of geographic location or political affiliation. And the coming economic calamity is expected to leave no industry or region unscathed.

Yet as the virus brings activity on both coasts — which overwhelmingly voted for Hillary Clinton in 2016 — to a grinding halt, the demographics underscore how Democratic areas are being more heavily impacted than Republican ones. ...

According to the CDC, there are over 4,600 confirmed cases in New York State, and in New York City, there are nearly 4,000 infections and rising. That was double the figures that had been released just the day prior.

Meanwhile the partisan skew is obvious: The unabashedly liberal Big Apple hasn’t voted for a Republican president since 1924; and in 2016, Clinton won roughly 87% of Manhattan’s vote against fellow New York resident Donald Trump.


https://finance.yahoo.com/news/coronavirus-hitting-democrat-communities-more-than-republican-ones-143813828.html
995   NDrLoR   2020 Mar 20, 8:30am  

Patrick says
Wuhan virus disproportionately affects areas that vote for globalist Democrats
Yes, I noticed that, while the disgusting flyover country is relatively mild.

https://www.livescience.com/coronavirus-updates-united-states.html
996   Patrick   2020 Mar 20, 8:44am  

Also, this mass self-quarantine may wipe out certain strains of cold, flu, and other diseases because the chains of transmission are being broken.

Hell, venereal diseases will probably also decrease for the same reason.

And even though the economy is getting whacked, many countries have lived through economic devastation before and then rebounded. Could take years, but things will recover.
997   Patrick   2020 Mar 20, 8:54am  

Lol, the rich are getting access to Wuhan virus tests ahead of everyone else:

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/20/how-one-elite-new-york-medical-provider-got-its-patients-coronavirus-tests.html

Not surprising.
998   Patrick   2020 Mar 20, 8:56am  

More about the French experience with chloroquine:

This week, French researchers released results from a preliminary trial using 36 COVID-19 patients. The study, headed by Didier Raoult from Aix-Marseille University in France, has not yet been peer-reviewed but shows promising results.Twenty of the patients received 600 milligrams of hydroxychloroquine daily, and the remainder did not to act as a control group.After six days, 70% of the patients who received the drug were considered cured, compared with only 12.5% of the control group, according to Newsweek.
999   RWSGFY   2020 Mar 20, 9:03am  

Patrick says
Huh, Wuhan virus disproportionately affects areas that vote for globalist Democrats. Karma at work?


Not karma: just density, public transportation, uncontrolled immigration, outsized homeless population, etc.
1000   RWSGFY   2020 Mar 20, 9:04am  

Patrick says
Lol, the rich are getting access to Wuhan virus tests ahead of everyone else


Test-shmest. I fail to see a point for an individual to test for that shit: if your symptoms are mild just ride it out, if they are severe - get hospitalized.
1001   zzyzzx   2020 Mar 20, 9:06am  

Tax day now put off. Even the filing date now (filing date is the latest part):

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/irs-extends-tax-deadline-to-july-15-from-april-15-143136026.html
Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin announced that tax day will be delayed from April 15 to July 15. He made the announcement on Twitter on Friday, days after announcing a deferral on tax payments but not on filing day.

“All taxpayers and businesses will have this additional time to file and make payments without interest or penalties,” Mnuchin tweeted.

At @realDonaldTrump’s direction, we are moving Tax Day from April 15 to July 15. All taxpayers and businesses will have this additional time to file and make payments without interest or penalties.
1002   RWSGFY   2020 Mar 20, 9:07am  

Time to postpone the property tax too.
1003   Patrick   2020 Mar 20, 9:13am  

TEOTWAWKI says
Not karma: just density, public transportation, uncontrolled immigration, outsized homeless population, etc.


Those second two definitely are the results of Democratic policies. So it could definitely be karma.
1004   zzyzzx   2020 Mar 20, 9:16am  

China had 3200 deaths out of 81000 cases in a country with 1.4b people which is .04% death rate. Korea has 51b people had 8600 cases with 94 deaths which is .01%. Granted S Korea does more testing but given that line of thinking and getting the results of doing more testing, it seems to me this lends to a DECREASE in the mortality rate. Italy- not sure what's going on there other than they have a LOT of elderly, people kiss each other upon greeting, they live in close proximity to one another and spend a lot of time outdoors together. Even with all that said, so far their rate is still only .08%.
1005   MisdemeanorRebel   2020 Mar 20, 11:57am  

zzyzzx says
China had 3200 deaths out of 81000 cases in a country with 1.4b people which is .04% death rate. Korea has 51b people had 8600 cases with 94 deaths which is .01%. Granted S Korea does more testing but given that line of thinking and getting the results of doing more testing, it seems to me this lends to a DECREASE in the mortality rate. Italy- not sure what's going on there other than they have a LOT of elderly, people kiss each other upon greeting, they live in close proximity to one another and spend a lot of time outdoors together. Even with all that said, so far their rate is still only .08%.


Exactly. And all those deaths concentrated in the old and infirm to boot.

Deaths always go down during an epidemic while cases rise because A) It begins to move into the young and healthy who are highly likely to survive it and B) Increased Treatment Experience.
1008   zzyzzx   2020 Mar 20, 12:28pm  

Last time I went to WalMart, only saw 3 people wearing masks. All of them black.
1012   Bd6r   2020 Mar 20, 3:54pm  

zzyzzx says
Last time I went to WalMart, only saw 3 people wearing masks. All of them black.

Last time I went to my cheapass Paki store, I saw only 10 womyn wearing masks, but they were wearing masks long before corona outbreak:
1013   mell   2020 Mar 20, 4:14pm  

zzyzzx says


Pam! Pam! Pam!
1014   HeadSet   2020 Mar 20, 4:26pm  

Ceffer says
rd6B says
Last time I went to WalMart, only saw 3 people wearing masks. All of them black.


Drama Queen Disability and Workman's Comp Prepping. Same thing happened at our post office during the swine flu scare, gloves 'n masks and posturing. The Filipinos, Chinese and white people just kept on working, no masks or gloves.


I think you may have missed his joke. The "Black men wearing masks" were bandits.
1023   Patrick   2020 Mar 20, 5:19pm  

Booger says


Lol, perfect!

OK, from now on it's "corona food" and "coronatown"!

After all, if it's wrong to say "China" when talking about the Chinese virus, then it's wrong to say "China" in Chinese food and Chinatown.
1024   Patrick   2020 Mar 20, 5:31pm  

Shit keeps getting more real in Italy:

Lombardy, at the epicenter of the epidemic, said about 100 soldiers would soon be deployed to help local police enforce the lockdown, and called on the government to impose new measures to keep Italians at home.

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