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It begins to smell like psyops as soon as they use religious techniques mingled with hysteria, not rational examination, real data, or real science, to drown out reasonable voices and steer the perception toward an agenda. That threshold was crossed some time ago with Global Warming, and has passed that threshold for Covid-19.

Fear, superstition, hatred against an outside antagonist (whether real or a demonized fiction), desire for a transcendent protection etc. etc. appeal to our basic tribal and animistic natures. These force can turn populations effectively against each other, or if properly harnessed, used as spearheads to control society.

The predator psychopaths-that-be have been studying these methods and attempting to perfect them for hundreds of years in a kind of Red Queen evolutionary relationship with society in general. They work in bursts, but the social organism has a pesky tendency to co-evolve beyond them. Time to break out the guillotines and reign in the psychopath parasites again? They like to convince us that the relationship is symbiotic and that we need them, when they are pretty fungible.

This Covid-19 one has been pretty crude, like a shotgun to swat a fly, and is clearly designed as a study in how far you can take these things. It will be interesting to see the backlash, if there is any. Even recent history has shown us that they can succeed i.e. Kennedy assassination, Iraq war and 9/11, etc and the principles are never punished, which has just made them incredibly audacious and flagrant.

That be one ugly city.

WillPowers says

If Farrell is right, this could mean our intelligence services are conducting a mind control experiment on a massive scale.

Which intelligence services exactly? Are you saying that intelligence services of different countries are in cahoots to perform a "mind control experiment" all over the world? CIA working hand in hand with FSB and whatever the Asshoe's intelligence is named? What about MI6? Spanish CNI?

Dude, this is nuts.

I don't believe this was all engineered; but, the longer it goes on, the more it seems possible. Anyway, some steps taken are dangerous to liberty and human rights.
https://babylonbee.com/news/all-civil-liberties-declared-nonessential

willywonka says

That be one ugly city.

Hideous. Not in Chicago myself anymore, but she actually seems like she's going to be an okay to good mayor. Hopefully she doesn't get too tied up in race and queer stuff with her being one. I like her style with handling this so far. Although she has to be careful embracing the memes of her. They are funny, but some people will take that (because they're idiots) as this whole thing being a joke. Hence why we still have shootings and most the deaths are blacks.

georgeliberte says

some steps taken are dangerous to liberty and human rights.

Especially trials that have been postponed when the defendant is entitled to a speedy trial.

Face it, you are all just brains in jars in an experimental lab. Wake up!!!

Yeah... it's all an experiment led by Trump, China, and hundreds of other countries. The people who died are all actors. BoJo is acting himself....

The level of paranoia on the Internet is reaching the GALACTICALLY STUPID.

Usually fucking stupid is the simplest and most true explanation of gov't activities, and I believe this is the case for their corona response as well.
It is also quite interesting that many people who agree that government can not competently run anything suddenly propose that the same government is able to competently carry out vast conspiracies.

“Are alien abductions real, or is it all a conspiracy?”

TEOTWAWKI says

Are you saying that intelligence services of different countries are in cahoots to perform a "mind control experiment" all over the world? CIA working hand in hand with FSB and whatever the Asshoe's intelligence is named? What about MI6? Spanish CNI?

Dude, this is nuts.

It is nuts. US intelligence services are in the midst of a cold civil war. There is the globalist faction aligned against Trump and his ultra nationalist agenda. The globalist faction want to protect corporate interests and their factories in China and illegal immigrants as well as legal immigrants to supply them with a cheap labor force. This faction of the deep state that hates Trump, aligned with the Dems and RINOs has tried on multiple occasions to bring down his presidency, with the Mueller probe, the impeachment and now this. The coronavirus was either accidentlly released or very possibly released by on purpose to facilitate an economic collapse to dissuade people from voting for him. If accidental, they are using the coronavirus to supply them with an excuse to halt the economy and bring it to a stand-still.

WillPowers says

very possibly released by on purpose to facilitate an economic collapse to dissuade people from voting for him.

Yeah... the Chinese are killing their people and sinking their economy - and the rest of the world - just to get Trump.
IT'S ALL ABOUT TRUMP!!!!!!
That makes total sense.... nope, it's GALACTICALLY STUPID!

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WillPowers says

This faction of the deep state that hates Trump, aligned with the Dems and RINOs has tried on multiple occasions to bring down his presidency, with the Mueller probe, the impeachment and now this.

Sooo, our "deep state" is capable to coordinating with all other "deep states" around the world and work in a perfect unison while successfully supressing all the leakers and whistleblowers? Wow!

Heraclitusstudent says

Yeah... the Chinese are killing their people and sinking their economy - and the rest of the world - just to get Trump.
IT'S ALL ABOUT TRUMP!!!!!!

Don't think it's about Trump myself. But yes, the Chinese will and do kill their people all the time. Communism isn't sustainable. The more people you have to take care of the harder it gets. Greater chance of revolution. Their economy is made up of lies and deceit. That can't be hidden from their people forever.

We might see that breaking point soon unless the Chinese themselves released this to quash revolution they thought was coming, which I wouldn't doubt. Secondary effects may have been to try and hurt the US, but I think there's unrest in China and they wanted some of their people to STFU. Anyone thinking their death totals for Wuhan Bat Disease are within a factor of 10 are bat shit crazy. They're way over 100k deaths in China.

TEOTWAWKI says

Sooo, our "deep state" is capable to coordinating with all other "deep states" around the world and work in a perfect unison while successfully supressing all the leakers and whistleblowers? Wow!

You know what the "deep state" is? It's just our intelligence agencies. And yes, they co-ordinate with others, like Mi6 and Italian intelligence agencies, that Misfud was associated with.

And they don't work in perfect unison. If they did, do you think the best thing they could have come up with was some "dossier" about Trump being in Russia having hookers urinate on a bed, when he wasn't even IN Russia at the time of the supposed incidents? They just assume the public is very gullible.

And there's plenty of whistle-blowers as well. That's why Julian Assange is kept in British prisons, and why Edward Snowden is somewhere in Russia. You ignore them.

How many times do the intelligence agencies have to lie to you anyhow, before you realize they don't work for truth, justice, and the American Way(tm). They lied about weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, they lied about the humanitarian crisis that Qaddafi was about to cause in Libya, they lied about Assad gassing his civilian population, they lied about the Skripal's being poisoned by the FSB, they lied about Russian Collusion, they lie all the freaking time.

And they tell really stupid lies as well, but inexplicably, you believe them. I don't know why.

richwicks says

You know what the "deep state" is? It's just our intelligence agencies. And yes, they co-ordinate with others, like Mi6 and Italian intelligence agencies

What about the FSB, Iranians, Chinese, North Koreans, etc.? Do they coordinate with their adversaries in CIA and MI6 too? Do Taiwanese intelligence coordinate with Chinese? Do South Korean intelligence coordinate with North Koreans? Do Saudis coordinate with Iranians? Israeli? Do they coordinate with Iranians too?

What the OP implied is that there is a global conspiracy among all intelligence agencies who suddently dropped everything and started to work in a perfect harmony to perpetuate this "hoax" in order to topple Trump. This would be the first time in the history of the world such coming together of all spooks has happened. It's like cats suddenly living with dogs.

And no, Assange and Snowden are not the kind of whislteblowers I was talking about: these were simply FSB moles exposing US secrets and US secrets only but never anything about their Mother Ship. What I'm talking about is whistleblowers and leakers who would expose CIA working in cahoots with FSB or Japanese spooks coordinating with their Chinese counterparts to topple Trump. How do they suppress all leaks all over the world?

Heraclitusstudent says

Yeah... the Chinese are killing their people and sinking their economy - and the rest of the world - just to get Trump.
IT'S ALL ABOUT TRUMP!!!!!!

You are misunderstand me. The Chinese didn't necessarily release this pathogen. It is within the realm of possibility and even very likely that a US covert operation released the virus in China, knowing how contagious the disease was and that it would cause a world wide pandemic.

And Yes, it is all about Trump. You bet it is. Trump stands in the way of these globalist and their desire to create a global empire, where China is the manufacturer of all the cheap products Americans use. It has been happening for decades.

TEOTWAWKI says

What about the FSB, Iranians, Chinese, North Koreans, etc.? Do they coordinate with their adversaries in CIA and MI6 too? Do Taiwanese intelligence coordinate with Chinese? Do South Korean intelligence coordinate with North Koreans? Do Saudis coordinate with Iranians? Israeli? Do they coordinate with Iranians too?

The CIA, or other intelligence services in the US don't have to coordinate with any other foreign power to operate. They do it secretly. That's why they are a spy organization.

WillPowers says

It is within the realm of possibility and even very likely that a US covert operation released the virus in China,

This is Russian/Chinese stance on the issue. Congrats.

Even if it wasn't a CIA psyop, bubbles need a prick. COVID was as good a black swan as any.

WillPowers says

The CIA, or other intelligence services in the US don't have to coordinate with any other foreign power to operate. They do it secretly.

Do what exactly? Persuade unsuspecting foreign governments to perform "mind control experiment" for them w/o even knowing that the virus is bogus and not deadly at all? And face no opposition from other intelligence and counter-intelligence agencies all over the world? How have they become so mighty so suddenly?

TEOTWAWKI says

What about the FSB, Iranians, Chinese, North Koreans, etc.? Do they coordinate with their adversaries in CIA and MI6 too?

I don't know.

The problem I have is that the deep state that runs this nation colluded to remove a president who was elected to end all these stupid wars we've been in that is bankrupting the country.

TEOTWAWKI says

What the OP implied is that there is a global conspiracy among all intelligence agencies who suddently dropped everything and started to work in a perfect harmony to perpetuate this "hoax" in order to topple Trump.

Well, I honestly don't know about that.

Russia has said, multiple times, though multiple speakers that they don't care who is president of the United States, because the president doesn't control foreign policy when it comes to them. It is utterly irrelevant to them who the president is, because they know he doesn't control foreign policy. They gave up on trying to reason with the United States under George W. Bush.

Putin has had long, intelligent talks, trying to explain that it's not in Russia's interests to either interfere with the United States or be in military conflict with the United States. This is a reasonable, rational thing to say. Military expenditures are a WASTE OF MONEY to them. The same is true with China. When forced into a conflict they don't fight to win the war, they fight to deplete the resources of their adversary, which is what they did in Vietnam, what they did in Syria, what they always do. In the meantime, both China and Russia work on internal development and stabilization of their nations.

They simply give the United States, and Europe more rope to hang themselves with. Ever seen a military map of foreign US bases?


If there is ever a nuclear war, god forbid, the entire world is dead. There is no point in continuing the cold war from the vantage point of either China nor Russia. Mutually Assured Destruction is assured.

TEOTWAWKI says

And no, Assange and Snowden are not the kind of whislteblowers I was talking about: these were simply FSB moles exposing US secrets and US secrets only but never anything about their Mother Ship.

Look, I know you might be upset with this, but the United States are the bad guys this time around.

The US federal government is in continual war to steal resources and to establish foreign bases. It killed between 100,000 and 1,000,000 Iraqis over a lie about weapons of mass destruction, and then setup bases there. It blew up Libya to prevent Qaddafi from implementing a new currency - the gold dinar, because it threatened the Federal Reserve and the supremacy of the US dollar which is the world's reserve currency, and the only reason it's the world's reserve currency is that the US military backs it up.

What you don't understand is that the US federal government will murder anybody that stands in their way, including Americans. They're insane.

We don't have freedom of speech, we don't have a blind justice system, we don't have a freedom at all. It's constant propaganda constantly fed to you, and you erroneously support the federal government that has enslaved you.

There's been a 6 trillion dollar emergency stimulus. You know where most of that money is going? 4 trillion directly to the banking system, our BANKRUPT banking system. We've been bankrupt since the Nixon Shock.

Russia and China have been furiously buying gold since 2000. There is over 300 trillion dollars of debt in US dollars worldwide based on derivatives. We're F'ed, and because of this terrible mismanagement of our completely corrupt government and banking system which work hand in hand, the only solution these jerks can think of is military. What I hope the military does is turn against them, try them, and imprison them for life, and then sterilize all their children.

TEOTWAWKI says

What I'm talking about is whistleblowers and leakers who would expose CIA working in cahoots with FSB or Japanese spooks coordinating with their Chinese counterparts to topple Trump. How do they suppress all leaks all over the world?

Most people in the intelligence agencies have no clue. They just do their job, and keep their mouth shut. Information is compartmentalized for a reason but it's pretty damned easy to see, if you just look, and have the courage to trust your own intellect than the propaganda that is relentlessly fed to you.

Think about it anyhow, when the USSR still existed in the 1950's, most Russian citizens thought they lived in a modern, free system, which was far better than anything in Europe or the United States. How is that possible, how did they suppress all the leaks all over the world? Well, they didn't and by December 26, 1991, they got enough information to say enough, and overthrew their government, and good riddance.

I wish Americans had that courage.

We have a completely corrupt system. Oh we can't afford 16 billion dollars for a wall between Mexico and the United States, but spending 2 billion dollars a DAY on the middle eastern wars, no problem. They only reason they are all in for illegal immigration is that the immigrants are second class citizens without any due process that aren't subject to any labor laws or protections and out of chaos they make order.

Our enemy isn't foreign, it's domestic. We have no 4th amendment, the really want to get rid of that nasty 2nd, and they've been attacking the 1st for years. Don't you realize why they are attacking the 1st amendment - if Americans realize just how really corrupt their government is, they've got the same problem the USSR did. They've broken the agreement made to validate them as a legitimate government. We don't have a legitimate government, we have a criminal syndicate running the nation and they aren't your friends.

richwicks says

Look, I know you might be upset with this, but the United States are the bad guys this time around.

Yeah, Comrade. This time around, that time around and fucking always. We get it.