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May crude oil futures closed at -38.45. That's MINUS 38.45!


               
2020 Apr 20, 2:03pm   2,742 views  21 comments

by Automan Empire   follow (1)  

The energy market is running into the problem of long term supply contracts running into full storages due to low demand. Radio news was talking about coal power plants running out of room for all the coal pouring in. Then today crude futures closed at -38.45!

Small data point, I live in LA county and travel frequently to the boundary of Kern County, a big historic oil producing area. Usually pump prices are 10-20c less than LA, but this was upside down by 30-40c a gallon this weekend, with Kern prices apparently not merely falling later but actively going UP.

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1   rocketjoe79   @   2020 Apr 20, 2:17pm  

CNBC Futures show Oil as a negative. Not sure how this can be?
2   WookieMan   @   2020 Apr 20, 2:27pm  

rocketjoe79 says
CNBC Futures show Oil as a negative. Not sure how this can be?

There's too much oil. Not a market I understand at all, but what I've heard is that they don't have places to store what is being pumped right now. It goes negative because they have to pay people to take the oil. Places like Saudi Arabia and Iran burn if they're not pumping oil. So they'll pump it at a loss so their regime doesn't get overthrown.

Again, not a market I understand, but that's my guess.
3   Hircus   @   2020 Apr 20, 3:05pm  

if the prices will stay close to zero for a little while, why not just make a man made lake of oil to store it? it should be much easier and cheaper to pump out of a lake than a drill rig.

maybe these neg prices are just a snap back price reaction, and will only last a very short period of time until they adjust how many tankers they send per wk.

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