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mostly_reader
2020 Jun 18, 11:27pm
> Ceffer
Darwin wasn't wrong, just incomplete. He never claimed to be complete either AFAIK.
Darwin wasn't wrong, just incomplete. He never claimed to be complete either AFAIK.
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PeopleUnited
2020 Jun 19, 4:40am
PeopleUnited
2020 Jun 19, 4:40am
just_dregalicious says
Which “Judeo-Christian” values do the chimps demonstrate here? Looks more like rival gangs and winner takes all. That is the exact opposite of values one would find in a moral, respect ones elders society of Judeo-Christian values.
www.youtube.com/embed/c2u3NKXbGeo
https://youtu.be/4XP6T1CMgBQ
Come to think of it, there is not much of a judeo-Christian influence in mainstream anymore either. Just look around. The extremists are tearing down every single statue, deplatforming voices that don’t support the anti-judeo-Christian narrative, and labeling/marginalizing anyone who truly with an open heart studies, understands and believes actual New and Old Testament scriptures (the foundation of Judeo-Christian values). People who legitimately live Judeo-Christian values are worse than villains in this world. I know, because that is how some here have treated me. They cannot tolerate a discussion or revelation or even a testimony from someone who might know something about God they never considered. In fact they are too proud to admit they have decided to ignore God and His word because it is not convenient to give up their sin and try to live more like Jesus. They are the worst kind of bigots, because they are convinced that their bigotry is righteous.
similar morality if chimp culture
Which “Judeo-Christian” values do the chimps demonstrate here? Looks more like rival gangs and winner takes all. That is the exact opposite of values one would find in a moral, respect ones elders society of Judeo-Christian values.
www.youtube.com/embed/c2u3NKXbGeo
https://youtu.be/4XP6T1CMgBQ
Come to think of it, there is not much of a judeo-Christian influence in mainstream anymore either. Just look around. The extremists are tearing down every single statue, deplatforming voices that don’t support the anti-judeo-Christian narrative, and labeling/marginalizing anyone who truly with an open heart studies, understands and believes actual New and Old Testament scriptures (the foundation of Judeo-Christian values). People who legitimately live Judeo-Christian values are worse than villains in this world. I know, because that is how some here have treated me. They cannot tolerate a discussion or revelation or even a testimony from someone who might know something about God they never considered. In fact they are too proud to admit they have decided to ignore God and His word because it is not convenient to give up their sin and try to live more like Jesus. They are the worst kind of bigots, because they are convinced that their bigotry is righteous.
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SoTex
2020 Jun 19, 9:34am
SoTex
2020 Jun 19, 9:34am
Ceffer says
Yeah, I've seen those guys and you took the words right out of my mouth. One of them is a religious freak though. Not your normal run of the mill normal religious person but one of those weirdos claims he knows what god thinks and believes the bible verbatim. A zealot. The type that uses the word 'fact' when speaking about said religion. Maybe they're carrying around a serpent or two. Those are the kind of people who I don't want to know what they're up to when nobody else is around if you know what I mean.
They, however, don't know what principle or mover stirred the pot to accelerate or catalyze matters.
Yeah, I've seen those guys and you took the words right out of my mouth. One of them is a religious freak though. Not your normal run of the mill normal religious person but one of those weirdos claims he knows what god thinks and believes the bible verbatim. A zealot. The type that uses the word 'fact' when speaking about said religion. Maybe they're carrying around a serpent or two. Those are the kind of people who I don't want to know what they're up to when nobody else is around if you know what I mean.
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PeopleUnited
2020 Jun 19, 11:07am
PeopleUnited
2020 Jun 19, 11:07am
William Penn Quotations
"There is a zeal without knowledge, that is superstition. There is a zeal against knowledge, that is interest or faction; there is a zeal with knowledge, that is religion; and if you will view the countries of cruelty, you will find them superstitious rather than religious. Religion is gentle, it makes men better, more friendly, loving and patient than before."
"No people can be truly happy, though under the greatest enjoyments of civil liberties, if abridged of the Freedom of their Conscience as to their Religious Profession and Worship." (Pennsylvania Charter of Liberties, 1701)
"If we will not be governed by God, we must be governed by tyrants."
"There is a zeal without knowledge, that is superstition. There is a zeal against knowledge, that is interest or faction; there is a zeal with knowledge, that is religion; and if you will view the countries of cruelty, you will find them superstitious rather than religious. Religion is gentle, it makes men better, more friendly, loving and patient than before."
"No people can be truly happy, though under the greatest enjoyments of civil liberties, if abridged of the Freedom of their Conscience as to their Religious Profession and Worship." (Pennsylvania Charter of Liberties, 1701)
"If we will not be governed by God, we must be governed by tyrants."
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PeopleUnited
2020 Jun 19, 2:24pm
PeopleUnited
2020 Jun 19, 2:24pm
mostly_reader says
William Provine, a professor in the Department of Ecology and Evolutionary Biology at the distinguished Cornell University, commented on Darwin’s position on morals as they relate to evolution. Eleven years ago, Provine delivered the keynote address at the second annual Darwin Day on the campus of the University of Tennessee in Knoxville. In an abstract of that speech, on UT’s Darwin Day Web site, Provine’s introductory comments are recorded in the following words: “Naturalistic evolution has clear consequences that Charles Darwin understood perfectly. 1) No gods worth having exist; 2) no life after death exists; 3) no ultimate foundation for ethics exists; 4) no ultimate meaning in life exists; and 5) human free will is nonexistent” (1998, emp. added).
Carefully notice the underlying effects of such assertions. If there is no God, as Darwin admitted evolution implies, then humans are not bound by any moral standard other than the instincts that each human desires to follow. Thus, if one person considers it best to beat his children, while another considers it best to lovingly nurture his children, according to evolution, both would be acting in accord with their evolutionary origins, and neither would be guilty of any real, moral right or wrong. Heinously immoral actions, such as infanticide, rape, murder, sexual promiscuity, pedophilia, homosexuality, adultery, and abortion, have all found justification in Darwin’s theory. Darwin’s theory implies that humans can act like animals without any moral responsibility.
Provine, William (1998), “Evolution: Free Will and Punishment and Meaning in Life,”
Darwin wasn't wrong, just incomplete.
William Provine, a professor in the Department of Ecology and Evolutionary Biology at the distinguished Cornell University, commented on Darwin’s position on morals as they relate to evolution. Eleven years ago, Provine delivered the keynote address at the second annual Darwin Day on the campus of the University of Tennessee in Knoxville. In an abstract of that speech, on UT’s Darwin Day Web site, Provine’s introductory comments are recorded in the following words: “Naturalistic evolution has clear consequences that Charles Darwin understood perfectly. 1) No gods worth having exist; 2) no life after death exists; 3) no ultimate foundation for ethics exists; 4) no ultimate meaning in life exists; and 5) human free will is nonexistent” (1998, emp. added).
Carefully notice the underlying effects of such assertions. If there is no God, as Darwin admitted evolution implies, then humans are not bound by any moral standard other than the instincts that each human desires to follow. Thus, if one person considers it best to beat his children, while another considers it best to lovingly nurture his children, according to evolution, both would be acting in accord with their evolutionary origins, and neither would be guilty of any real, moral right or wrong. Heinously immoral actions, such as infanticide, rape, murder, sexual promiscuity, pedophilia, homosexuality, adultery, and abortion, have all found justification in Darwin’s theory. Darwin’s theory implies that humans can act like animals without any moral responsibility.
Provine, William (1998), “Evolution: Free Will and Punishment and Meaning in Life,”
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Ceffer
2020 Jun 19, 10:18pm
Ceffer
2020 Jun 19, 10:18pm
just_dregalicious says
Yes, I saw the drift toward theism. However, if the mathematical models are true and can be validated over time and skepticism, there could be other explanations such as panspermia, or even guided evolution by aliens at some point in human history or the 'life as alien lab rat' theory.
The mathematical theory would require a 'catalyst theory' to supplement it, and certainly many would simply choose traditional religion of some sort to fill the gap. However, the religious angle doesn't have to be the only angle.
One of them is a religious freak though. Not your normal run of the mill normal religious person but one of those weirdos claims he knows what god thinks and believes the bible verbatim. A zealot
Yes, I saw the drift toward theism. However, if the mathematical models are true and can be validated over time and skepticism, there could be other explanations such as panspermia, or even guided evolution by aliens at some point in human history or the 'life as alien lab rat' theory.
The mathematical theory would require a 'catalyst theory' to supplement it, and certainly many would simply choose traditional religion of some sort to fill the gap. However, the religious angle doesn't have to be the only angle.
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PeopleUnited
2020 Jun 20, 5:53am
PeopleUnited
2020 Jun 20, 5:53am
Ceffer says
Well slap me silly and call me a scruffy looking nerf herder!!
Ah yes, the midichlorian and ancient alien origins hypotheses.
https://www.starwars.com/news/so-what-the-heck-are-midi-chlorians
When people resort to creating a new mythology every few years to support their world view, what does that say about their world view?
God is an extraterrestrial of sorts so at least this hypothesis is consistent with evidence.
.just_dregalicious says
God’s word spoke the world into existence, a wise person will take heed to this and give it special attention.
Mark 13:31 ESV
Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will not pass away.
Psalm 119:89 ESV / 42 helpful votes
Forever, O Lord, your word is firmly fixed in the heavens.
John 1:1-14:31 ESV
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
Psalm 119:105 English Standard Version (ESV)
Your word is a lamp to my feet
and a light to my path.
there could be other explanations such as panspermia, or even guided evolution by aliens at some point in human history
Well slap me silly and call me a scruffy looking nerf herder!!
Ah yes, the midichlorian and ancient alien origins hypotheses.
https://www.starwars.com/news/so-what-the-heck-are-midi-chlorians
When people resort to creating a new mythology every few years to support their world view, what does that say about their world view?
God is an extraterrestrial of sorts so at least this hypothesis is consistent with evidence.
.just_dregalicious says
believes the bible verbatim
God’s word spoke the world into existence, a wise person will take heed to this and give it special attention.
Mark 13:31 ESV
Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will not pass away.
Psalm 119:89 ESV / 42 helpful votes
Forever, O Lord, your word is firmly fixed in the heavens.
John 1:1-14:31 ESV
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
Psalm 119:105 English Standard Version (ESV)
Your word is a lamp to my feet
and a light to my path.
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Patrick
2020 Jun 20, 11:03am
Patrick
2020 Jun 20, 11:03am
PeopleUnited says
Read Ezekiel. Definitely sounds like aliens coming down on a rocket ship and some kind of lander thing rolling around.
ancient alien
Read Ezekiel. Definitely sounds like aliens coming down on a rocket ship and some kind of lander thing rolling around.
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Ceffer
2020 Jun 20, 11:18am
Ceffer
2020 Jun 20, 11:18am
It doesn't have to be aliens OR God. It could simply be an as yet undiscovered property of nature or physics that trends toward more rapidly evolving organized forms, perhaps jellies which are antennae to the universe.
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PeopleUnited
2020 Jun 20, 2:18pm
PeopleUnited
2020 Jun 20, 2:18pm
Patrick says
Good example. Definitely extraterrestrials. Sounds a lot like charabim or the seraphim guarding the throne of God. In chapter 2, God speaks to Zeke.
PeopleUnited saysancient alien
Read Ezekiel. Definitely sounds like aliens coming down on a rocket ship and some kind of lander thing rolling around.
Good example. Definitely extraterrestrials. Sounds a lot like charabim or the seraphim guarding the throne of God. In chapter 2, God speaks to Zeke.
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PeopleUnited
2020 Jun 20, 2:19pm
PeopleUnited
2020 Jun 20, 2:19pm
Ceffer says
It doesn't have to be aliens OR God. It could simply be an as yet undiscovered property of nature or physics that trends toward more rapidly evolving organized forms, perhaps jellies which are antennae to the universe.PeopleUnited says
When people resort to creating a new mythology every few years to support their world view, what does that say about their world view?
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Tenpoundbass
2020 Jun 20, 5:49pm
Tenpoundbass
2020 Jun 20, 5:49pm
Ceffer says
Ooh Blob and Ghostly Aliens, I always liked those in Star Trek, because it took Theremin musak to sell it.
Kind of the way Steven Spielberg always sold natural phenomena with a fog machine and blue light.
You can't create that kind of campy cheesy genuineness in special effects using 3D animation.
It doesn't have to be aliens OR God. It could simply be an as yet undiscovered property of nature or physics that trends toward more rapidly evolving organized forms, perhaps jellies which are antennae to the universe.
Ooh Blob and Ghostly Aliens, I always liked those in Star Trek, because it took Theremin musak to sell it.
Kind of the way Steven Spielberg always sold natural phenomena with a fog machine and blue light.
You can't create that kind of campy cheesy genuineness in special effects using 3D animation.
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PeopleUnited
2020 Jun 21, 5:38am
PeopleUnited
2020 Jun 21, 5:38am
Star Trek predicted iPads, flip phones, and computerized voice recording, and you are right about using musak to sell the supernatural, it works! For the good of the body...
www.youtube.com/embed/nZMuBIJxmnA
https://youtu.be/1AkWWYtCjpo
https://youtu.be/ILL9L4bc6yQ
Good times, but alas it is merely a distraction from the reality that we are living in the last days.
2 Timothy 3 New Life Version (NLV)
1 You must understand that in the last days there will come times of much trouble. 2 People will love themselves and money. They will have pride and tell of all the things they have done. They will speak against God. Children and young people will not obey their parents. People will not be thankful and they will not be holy. 3 They will not love each other. No one can get along with them. They will tell lies about others. They will not be able to keep from doing things they know they should not do. They will be wild and want to beat and hurt those who are good. 4 They will not stay true to their friends. They will act without thinking. They will think too much of themselves. They will love fun instead of loving God.
www.youtube.com/embed/nZMuBIJxmnA
https://youtu.be/1AkWWYtCjpo
https://youtu.be/ILL9L4bc6yQ
Good times, but alas it is merely a distraction from the reality that we are living in the last days.
2 Timothy 3 New Life Version (NLV)
1 You must understand that in the last days there will come times of much trouble. 2 People will love themselves and money. They will have pride and tell of all the things they have done. They will speak against God. Children and young people will not obey their parents. People will not be thankful and they will not be holy. 3 They will not love each other. No one can get along with them. They will tell lies about others. They will not be able to keep from doing things they know they should not do. They will be wild and want to beat and hurt those who are good. 4 They will not stay true to their friends. They will act without thinking. They will think too much of themselves. They will love fun instead of loving God.
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