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Harvard Grad Claira Janover lost her Deloitte job over TikTok terror video
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AD
2020 Jul 2, 12:54pm
AD
2020 Jul 2, 12:54pm
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The same applies with the Chicom agent and NY Times writer Sarah Jeong.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarah_Jeong
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The same applies with the Chicom agent and NY Times writer Sarah Jeong.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarah_Jeong
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MisdemeanorRebel
2020 Jul 2, 1:01pm
MisdemeanorRebel
2020 Jul 2, 1:01pm
Hircus says
GREAT idea.
I think we should all make it a point to start downloading a copy of each video when someone says racist shit about white people.
Some years down the road, the tables will turn and there will be a reversal where anti-white racism gets called out for being the racist-shit that it is. But, many will delete their videos as this day nears. Keeping a copy in a "racist_libtard" folder will make it easy to get them when the time is right. Don't let them hide.
GREAT idea.
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goofus
2020 Jul 2, 1:28pm
CBOEtrader says
Kaepernick had an absentee father and abandonment issues. Over-identified with his black biological father, like Obama. Wanted to prove his bonafides by trashing his white adoptive family, and whites more generally.
These are cautionary tales, and not at all uncommon.
goofus saystheoakman saysShe thinks it's openly ok to exhibit racism against white people. And when someone (her employer) finally puts her in her place, she is actually incapable of comprehending what she did wrong.
Reminds me of Obama. Given everything in life from his white mother and grandparents, only to damn them and their whole racial grouping in favor of the absentee father's. Sounds like a great case against single parenting, and single parenting a biracial child even more so.
Whats kaepernicks excuse. He's 3/4 white, raised in a rich white family... Still has a massive chip
Kaepernick had an absentee father and abandonment issues. Over-identified with his black biological father, like Obama. Wanted to prove his bonafides by trashing his white adoptive family, and whites more generally.
These are cautionary tales, and not at all uncommon.
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clambo
2020 Jul 2, 1:49pm
As goofus noticed, people who have racial identity confusion are upset and they tend to take it out on whites.
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RWSGFY
2020 Jul 2, 2:17pm
RWSGFY
2020 Jul 2, 2:17pm
clambo says
Any kind of identity confusion is never a good thing.
As goofus noticed, people who have racial identity confusion are upset and they tend to take it out on whites.
Any kind of identity confusion is never a good thing.
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Rin
2020 Jul 2, 3:14pm
Rin
2020 Jul 2, 3:14pm
theoakman says
Yes, post nothing controversial, esp when ppl know your name.
IMHO, I'm a bit surprised that even our founder, Patrick, is posting opinion pieces on conservatism, Islam, and a host of other topics which could easily come back and bite him if he ever switches geographies and then, the future firms will know all about PatNet and probably see him as a risky candidate. Realize, ppl can't stay 'technical' forever, at some point in time, age will force one into roles like senior business analyst, director of X, etc, where having a clean online life is required.
If I were Pat, I'd use a alt-identity to posts one's real thoughts about those things and just play the role of the silent moderator and not engage in anything controversial.
Im afraid to post on social media that I voted Republican out of fear of losing my job. I won't even post anything aligning with beliefs such as capitalism and self responsibility due to the same fear.
Yes, post nothing controversial, esp when ppl know your name.
IMHO, I'm a bit surprised that even our founder, Patrick, is posting opinion pieces on conservatism, Islam, and a host of other topics which could easily come back and bite him if he ever switches geographies and then, the future firms will know all about PatNet and probably see him as a risky candidate. Realize, ppl can't stay 'technical' forever, at some point in time, age will force one into roles like senior business analyst, director of X, etc, where having a clean online life is required.
If I were Pat, I'd use a alt-identity to posts one's real thoughts about those things and just play the role of the silent moderator and not engage in anything controversial.
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Patrick
2020 Jul 2, 5:02pm
Patrick
2020 Jul 2, 5:02pm
Thanks @Rin
You're right, but it's way too late for me. I've already been through the "we won't hire you because you have disagreed with violent liberals" many times. And worse.
Pretty sure I'm in my last tech job, and I don't really need another one.
Maybe it's a personality flaw, but it gives deep meaning to my life to stand up and speak the truth under my own name when all other tech workers are cowering in fear of the violent liberal mob. Speaking up is literally what I live for, and if I have to die for it too, well, that's a very honorable way to go.
You're right, but it's way too late for me. I've already been through the "we won't hire you because you have disagreed with violent liberals" many times. And worse.
Pretty sure I'm in my last tech job, and I don't really need another one.
Maybe it's a personality flaw, but it gives deep meaning to my life to stand up and speak the truth under my own name when all other tech workers are cowering in fear of the violent liberal mob. Speaking up is literally what I live for, and if I have to die for it too, well, that's a very honorable way to go.
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Rin
2020 Jul 2, 5:14pm
Rin
2020 Jul 2, 5:14pm
Patrick says
Well, that's a bit too Bushido for me.
I like being known as a can doer and the fact that I keep my politics (not that I really have any) and my professional life, in two very separated containers.
Remember, unlike the Bay Area, in the Bay State (MA), we're only 2 (at most 3) degrees of separation from each other. For instance, the Boston bomber victim (Krystle Campbell) is only separated from me by a few Medford HS alumni and the ppl who work at Jimmy's restaurant which was her place of work before the bombing. And likewise, I'm only 1 degree away from you guessed it, the George Bush clan. I already know enough ppl, who're directly related to the Kennedys, w/o even having to bring that up.
The fact that no one's a true loner here, makes me want to keep those lips tight.
if I have to die for it too, well, that's a very honorable way to go.
Well, that's a bit too Bushido for me.
I like being known as a can doer and the fact that I keep my politics (not that I really have any) and my professional life, in two very separated containers.
Remember, unlike the Bay Area, in the Bay State (MA), we're only 2 (at most 3) degrees of separation from each other. For instance, the Boston bomber victim (Krystle Campbell) is only separated from me by a few Medford HS alumni and the ppl who work at Jimmy's restaurant which was her place of work before the bombing. And likewise, I'm only 1 degree away from you guessed it, the George Bush clan. I already know enough ppl, who're directly related to the Kennedys, w/o even having to bring that up.
The fact that no one's a true loner here, makes me want to keep those lips tight.
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richwicks
2020 Jul 2, 5:26pm
richwicks
2020 Jul 2, 5:26pm
Patrick says
Move out of Silly Con Valley. This is no longer THE tech hub. That pretty much ended when we finished the Internet infrastructure. The entire country isn't like this.
For now, I can still deal with the lunacy but I can see the day is coming I can't take it any more.
It is funny. Back in 2003, I thought it was the Republicans that were mindless, easily manipulated, propagandized fascists - fanatically supporting the Iraq War because "if we don't fight them there, we'll have to fight them here" and "we can't wait for the final proof to come in the form of a mushroom cloud". I was too young to realize that both parties are entirely controlled by the same entity.
Republicans, meaning the base that vote republican, woke up first. Never saw that coming. I think 1/2 the country is going through a revelation.
I'll have to setup that pi for you. I re-confiscated one from my neighbor. I think the future is distributed information. No central location, no database to attack, no ability to place pressure on a company - it will have to be done individual by individual. Storage is ridiculously cheap, and just for fun, I will demonstrate it to you. You need a linux box of some sort though to access it, I don't do Windows, and in time, nobody will.
I'm fairly certain that we can return the internet back to what it was originally intended for, distributed, impossible to censor, decentralized.
You're right, but it's way too late for me. I've already been through the "we won't hire you because you have disagreed with violent liberals" many times. And worse.
Pretty sure I'm in my last tech job, and I don't really need another one.
Move out of Silly Con Valley. This is no longer THE tech hub. That pretty much ended when we finished the Internet infrastructure. The entire country isn't like this.
For now, I can still deal with the lunacy but I can see the day is coming I can't take it any more.
It is funny. Back in 2003, I thought it was the Republicans that were mindless, easily manipulated, propagandized fascists - fanatically supporting the Iraq War because "if we don't fight them there, we'll have to fight them here" and "we can't wait for the final proof to come in the form of a mushroom cloud". I was too young to realize that both parties are entirely controlled by the same entity.
Republicans, meaning the base that vote republican, woke up first. Never saw that coming. I think 1/2 the country is going through a revelation.
I'll have to setup that pi for you. I re-confiscated one from my neighbor. I think the future is distributed information. No central location, no database to attack, no ability to place pressure on a company - it will have to be done individual by individual. Storage is ridiculously cheap, and just for fun, I will demonstrate it to you. You need a linux box of some sort though to access it, I don't do Windows, and in time, nobody will.
I'm fairly certain that we can return the internet back to what it was originally intended for, distributed, impossible to censor, decentralized.
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mell
2020 Jul 2, 5:29pm
Patrick says
One thing that helps is working for smaller companies and not being directly involved in c2c or b2c action. There's plenty of useful code to write for smaller companies not worth targeting and the whole work from home thing at least works in favor of avoiding pc issues in the office.
Rin says
So? You reinvest your dividends and were once talking about cashing out of the fund you work for, you don't have/want family and have the real doll, once your main gig ends you should have enough fuck-you money to be able to say what you want and can exit Marc Faber style. I agree with Patrick at the end of the day it makes your life worthwhile.
richwicks says
That is very true - the bay area is fading fast and hard. You can work from home for many companies who aren't in the public eye much and at some point there will be a backlash as the regressive marxist left will eat itself faster than its perceived enemies. Or you can move to one of the countries that don't give a fuck about the mainstream, they will supply you with a visa and sometimes even with some starter money.
Thanks @Rin
You're right, but it's way too late for me. I've already been through the "we won't hire you because you have disagreed with violent liberals" many times. And worse.
Pretty sure I'm in my last tech job, and I don't really need another one.
Maybe it's a personality flaw, but it gives deep meaning to my life to stand up and speak the truth under my own name when all other tech workers are cowering in fear of the violent liberal mob. Speaking up is literally what I live for, and if I have to die for it too, well, that's a very honorable way to go.
One thing that helps is working for smaller companies and not being directly involved in c2c or b2c action. There's plenty of useful code to write for smaller companies not worth targeting and the whole work from home thing at least works in favor of avoiding pc issues in the office.
Rin says
Patrick saysif I have to die for it too, well, that's a very honorable way to go.
Well, that's a bit too Bushido for me.
I like being known as a can doer and the fact that I keep my politics (not that I really have any) and my professional life, in two very separated containers.
Remember, unlike the Bay Area, in the Bay State (MA), we're only 2 (at most 3) degrees of separation from each other. For instance, the Boston bomber victim (Krystle Campbell) is only separated from me by a few Medford HS alumni and the ppl who work at Jimmy's restaurant which was her place of work before the bombing. And likewise, I'm only 1 degree away from you guessed it, the George Bush clan. I already know enough ppl, who're directly related to the Kennedys, w/o even having to bring that up.
The fact that no one's a true loner here, makes me want to keep those lips tight.
So? You reinvest your dividends and were once talking about cashing out of the fund you work for, you don't have/want family and have the real doll, once your main gig ends you should have enough fuck-you money to be able to say what you want and can exit Marc Faber style. I agree with Patrick at the end of the day it makes your life worthwhile.
richwicks says
Move out of Silly Con Valley. This is no longer THE tech hub. That pretty much ended when we finished the Internet infrastructure. The entire country isn't like this.
For now, I can still deal with the lunacy but I can see the day is coming I can't take it any more.
That is very true - the bay area is fading fast and hard. You can work from home for many companies who aren't in the public eye much and at some point there will be a backlash as the regressive marxist left will eat itself faster than its perceived enemies. Or you can move to one of the countries that don't give a fuck about the mainstream, they will supply you with a visa and sometimes even with some starter money.
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Automan Empire
2020 Jul 2, 5:30pm
Automan Empire
2020 Jul 2, 5:30pm
I watched the "cracker" tiktok video in the thread. That used a lifetime allotment of patience with listening to this bitch.
Her voice makes Amy Schumer sound angelic by comparison.
Her voice makes Amy Schumer sound angelic by comparison.
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mell
2020 Jul 2, 5:33pm
richwicks says
SV ended in the early 2000s but at least it went out with style in a dot-com bang.
Move out of Silly Con Valley. This is no longer THE tech hub. That pretty much ended when we finished the Internet infrastructure.
SV ended in the early 2000s but at least it went out with style in a dot-com bang.
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Rin
2020 Jul 2, 5:35pm
Rin
2020 Jul 2, 5:35pm
mell says
I guess I'm too British in nature.
I want the world to see this ...
while I'm really doing that ...
So? You reinvest your dividends and were once talking about cashing out of the fund you work for, you don't have/want family and have the real doll, once your main gig ends you should have enough fuck-you money to be able to say what you want and can exit Marc Faber style. I agree with Patrick at the end of the day it makes your life worthwhile.
I guess I'm too British in nature.
I want the world to see this ...
while I'm really doing that ...
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mell
2020 Jul 2, 5:40pm
Rin says
Ok that makes sense. I always liked the British "understatement" to a certain extent, but it hasn't helped them defending their own country post-WW2 agains certain "immigrant threats". Eventually times will change again though. Nothing stays forever except maybe the Chinese Empire and CCP.
I guess I'm too British in nature.
Ok that makes sense. I always liked the British "understatement" to a certain extent, but it hasn't helped them defending their own country post-WW2 agains certain "immigrant threats". Eventually times will change again though. Nothing stays forever except maybe the Chinese Empire and CCP.
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Rin
2020 Jul 2, 5:50pm
Rin
2020 Jul 2, 5:50pm
mell says
Ok, but I'm 4th generation American so that current post-WW2 UK world doesn't really matter to me except for the fact that seeing hoes in Britain, outside of running a bawdy house, is still legal. And although the actual fish is fresher in Boston, since Boston is "the fish pier" of the northeast cites, they make their actual fish and chips better in the UK along with the mushy peas.
but it hasn't helped them defending their own country post-WW2 agains
Ok, but I'm 4th generation American so that current post-WW2 UK world doesn't really matter to me except for the fact that seeing hoes in Britain, outside of running a bawdy house, is still legal. And although the actual fish is fresher in Boston, since Boston is "the fish pier" of the northeast cites, they make their actual fish and chips better in the UK along with the mushy peas.
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richwicks
2020 Jul 2, 7:00pm
richwicks
2020 Jul 2, 7:00pm
mell says
Our mission was to allow the entire planet to have the ABILITY to talk to one another.
Mission accomplished.
Now we need to make it easy but it doesn't have to be done from here.
When I was in college in the early 1990s I was at a party where one of the people I knew said "The Internet will destroy all cultures" - and I was shocked at the thinking and said so. Then he explained "once we are a single culture, you can't make war" - and I was enlightened.
He was right, we're still working on this shit but Silly Con Valley is no longer the hub. We've been infiltrated. It won't stop us, it's delayed us though. We will destroy propaganda, and we will eliminate centralization of information. We misjudged Google as our friend. There's 100's of thousands of us.
richwicks saysMove out of Silly Con Valley. This is no longer THE tech hub. That pretty much ended when we finished the Internet infrastructure.
SV ended in the early 2000s but at least it went out with style in a dot-com bang.
Our mission was to allow the entire planet to have the ABILITY to talk to one another.
Mission accomplished.
Now we need to make it easy but it doesn't have to be done from here.
When I was in college in the early 1990s I was at a party where one of the people I knew said "The Internet will destroy all cultures" - and I was shocked at the thinking and said so. Then he explained "once we are a single culture, you can't make war" - and I was enlightened.
He was right, we're still working on this shit but Silly Con Valley is no longer the hub. We've been infiltrated. It won't stop us, it's delayed us though. We will destroy propaganda, and we will eliminate centralization of information. We misjudged Google as our friend. There's 100's of thousands of us.
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just_passing_through
2020 Jul 2, 7:07pm
just_passing_through
2020 Jul 2, 7:07pm
richwicks says
You can say that again. Go out into the other states and you SEE all of the tech that often is developed/envisioned in the SF area but does not exist there.
For instance, even very old suburban subdivisions around the country have fiber optic cable and multiple companies you can get cable/internet from. Not always/everywhere but much better than .. well all of CA in general.
The entire country isn't like this.
You can say that again. Go out into the other states and you SEE all of the tech that often is developed/envisioned in the SF area but does not exist there.
For instance, even very old suburban subdivisions around the country have fiber optic cable and multiple companies you can get cable/internet from. Not always/everywhere but much better than .. well all of CA in general.
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MisdemeanorRebel
2020 Jul 2, 7:09pm
MisdemeanorRebel
2020 Jul 2, 7:09pm
CBOEtrader says
It's cool to be Black, so he plays it up.
Same shit happens in Zanzibar. 90% of Black People are almost entirely black, but if they have one Persian great-great-grandfather ancestor, they tell everybody they're Persian.
Whats kaepernicks excuse. He's 3/4 white, raised in a rich white family... Still has a massive chip
It's cool to be Black, so he plays it up.
Same shit happens in Zanzibar. 90% of Black People are almost entirely black, but if they have one Persian great-great-grandfather ancestor, they tell everybody they're Persian.
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Patrick
2020 Jul 2, 8:43pm
Patrick
2020 Jul 2, 8:43pm
richwicks says
@richwicks I'd like to believe it, but I suspect they already thought about decentralization and have systematically disabled it.
- DNS is centralized
- SSL is centralized and certificates can be revoked
- most ISPs and cellphones disable all incoming connections
- browsers always refuse incoming connections
So there is basically no way for most people to run a decentralized server at home or from their phone. Pity, because phones are always-on devices with battery backup too.
We are left only with centralized services on AWS etc which can easily be found and eliminated.
One hope is copyright infringement software! Bitttorent etc are specifically designed to allow us all to share information peer to peer. Of course then you're using "bad" "illegal" software to communicate. This was also part of the plan.
Or maybe I'm just really paranoid.
I think the future is distributed information. No central location, no database to attack, no ability to place pressure on a company - it will have to be done individual by individual.
@richwicks I'd like to believe it, but I suspect they already thought about decentralization and have systematically disabled it.
- DNS is centralized
- SSL is centralized and certificates can be revoked
- most ISPs and cellphones disable all incoming connections
- browsers always refuse incoming connections
So there is basically no way for most people to run a decentralized server at home or from their phone. Pity, because phones are always-on devices with battery backup too.
We are left only with centralized services on AWS etc which can easily be found and eliminated.
One hope is copyright infringement software! Bitttorent etc are specifically designed to allow us all to share information peer to peer. Of course then you're using "bad" "illegal" software to communicate. This was also part of the plan.
Or maybe I'm just really paranoid.
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Patrick
2020 Jul 3, 2:05pm
Patrick
2020 Jul 3, 2:05pm
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8487049/Deloitte-says-Harvard-grad-blamed-Trump-supporters-losing-dream-job-internship.html
A Harvard graduate who claims she was fired from her 'dream job' at Deloitte after saying she'd 'stab' anyone who told her 'all lives matter' in a TikTok video was never actually employed by the firm, it has emerged.
Claira Janover, 22, tearfully claimed on Wednesday that supporters of Donald Trump 'took my job away from me' by calling for her firing, in response to the video.
In the clip, which has sharply divided people online, she threatens to 'stab' anyone who says 'all lives matter'. ...
Harvard grad who blamed Trump supporters for getting her fired from 'dream job' at Deloitte after 'All Lives Matter' TikTok stab video did NOT work for accountancy firm
Claira Janover posted a video threatening to stab anyone saying 'all lives matter'
The video went viral, and on Wednesday she claimed she had been fired Janover said Trump supporters 'took my job away from me'
She accused Deloitte, who she said she worked for, of 'cowardice' in firing her
Deloitte have confirmed however that she was never an employee at the firm
Janover was due to complete a two-week internship at the end of the summer
Deloitte canceled the internship owing to their policy against violent threats
By Harriet Alexander For Dailymail.com
Published: 08:06 EDT, 3 July 2020 | Updated: 09:36 EDT, 3 July 2020
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A Harvard graduate who claims she was fired from her 'dream job' at Deloitte after saying she'd 'stab' anyone who told her 'all lives matter' in a TikTok video was never actually employed by the firm, it has emerged.
Claira Janover, 22, tearfully claimed on Wednesday that supporters of Donald Trump 'took my job away from me' by calling for her firing, in response to the video.
In the clip, which has sharply divided people online, she threatens to 'stab' anyone who says 'all lives matter'.
Deloitte, however, have confirmed that she was never an employee of the company.
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Instead she was scheduled to complete an internship with them later this summer, which the company rescinded.
Jonathan Gandal, a managing director at the firm, said Janover 'has never been an employee of our organization'.
He said she was instead 'formerly scheduled for a two-week internship later this summer.'
Gandal said the offer of an internship was withdrawn because they have a company policy forbidding threatening violence.
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The Harvard graduate who said in a TikTok video that she would “stab” anyone who told her “All Lives Matter” revealed in a new pair of recordings that she has lost her job over the perceived threats and ensuing furor.
“Standing up for Black Lives Matter put me in a place online to be seen by millions of people,” a teary Claira Janover said in a new video posted Wednesday afternoon. “The job that I’d worked really hard to get and meant a lot to me has called me and fired me because of everything.”
Janover’s LinkedIn account lists her as an “incoming government and public business service analyst” at Deloitte, a UK-based accounting firm.
During the video, Janover gestured to what appears to be a page from the company’s website, and noted that she was axed “even though they claim to stand against systematic bias, racism and unequal treatment.”
Janover — who graduated from Harvard in May with a degree in government and psychology — went viral after posting a video to the platform railing against people with “the nerve, the sheer entitled caucasity to say ‘All Lives Matter.’”
@cjanover
Your scare tactics won’t work on me. always and forever, #blacklivesmatter
♬ original sound – cjanover
“I’ma stab you,” the Connecticut native said in the video, zooming in tight on her face.
“I’ma stab you, and while you’re struggling and bleeding out, I’ma show you my paper cut and say, ‘My cut matters, too.'”
Janover, who contended that the message was an analogy rather than a serious threat, has since deleted that video, but said that she’s since received a deluge of threats against her own life and safety.
n her new videos, she blamed supporters of President Trump for going after her job.
“Trump supporters took my job away from me,” she said in another new video posted Wednesday. “I have gotten death threats, rape threats, violent threats. It was OK, but now my future’s entirely compromised because Trump supporters have decided to come for my life.”
Through tears, a defiant Janover vowed not to back down.
“I’m too strong for you. I’m too strong for any of you ‘All Lives Matter,’ racist Trump supporters,” she said. “It sucks. But it doesn’t suck as much as systemic racism. And I’m not going to stop using my platform to advocate for it.”
She also took a parting shot at Deloitte.
@cjanover
#deloitte I am on the right side of history. #blacklivesmatter
♬ original sound – cjanover
“I’m sorry, Deloitte, that you can’t see that,” she said. “That you were cowardice [sic] enough to fight somebody who’s going to make an indelible change in the world and is going to have an impact.”
Deloitte did not immediately respond to multiple requests for comment.