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This is not my take on Trump haters.

https://patrick.net/post/1322306?80#comment-1696900

Excerpt: "These ppl do BS jobs at places like State Street Bank, Blue Cross Blue Shield, Fidelity Investments and can't realize that many of them are living off the 'rentier' class in America and thus, unlike those ex-factory workers in Ohio and Indiana, have no clue as to how the heartland is doing.

They think that their masters or MBA from NYU means 'merit' and not BS-ing for a living. Yes, these aren't Newtons, Telsas, or Einsteins.

And realize, I work for a hedge fund and thus ... know that my work means butt kiss as it's entirely depended upon an elite prop trader, beating the S&P500 index."

So it's not the welfare queen types. It's those ppl who really contribute nothing but spend their lives obfuscating information to keep their precious BS jobs in the Boston-to-DC corridor.

These ppl are about 'face time' and 'putting on an image'. Trump, however, is the opposite of them and thus, drives 'em crazy. Realize, these ppl have to pretend to care about their office politics, etc. Unlike Trump, they don't speak their minds in public. It's about 'synergy', 'group dynamics', 'value added', and a host of other buzzwords. When a group of ppl get comfortable, living a lie, they hate to see the truth. And yes, that truth is Trump.

From another post ...

https://patrick.net/post/1334574?0#comment-1695080

Excerpt: "this is also the reason why Romney was never going to win because he represented global capital, as the founder of Bain Capital. He couldn't even carry his original home state of Michigan, nevermind his 2nd one in Massachusetts. The public simply saw him as Wall Street's candidate.

What Trump was, which a lot of detractors on this forum don't realize is that although he's a scummy businessman, he isn't a Patrician. In fact, the olde money types of Boston, NYC, and Philadelphia do not see Trump as one of their 'gentile' compatriots. And no, in this case 'gentile' does not mean Protestant vs Jew, it means a member of polite upper crust society.

Instead, Trump's the Biff Tannen (see 'Back To The Future II') rich gangster/casino owner who deals with the mob and plays dirty. And that's what the public got."

Patrick's response:

Patrick says

Rin says

What Trump was, which a lot of detractors on this forum don't realize is that although he's a scummy businessman, he isn't a Patrician.

@Rin Yes, I agree.

Trump is about as far from patrician as you can get, and I think this is one thing that drives him. He was never accepted by NY society because he has the wrong mannerisms and style, the hair, the red ties etc. They don't care how much money he has.

In fact, he seems more like ordinary working class Americans than like the elite. And maybe this gives him a connection with voters.

He is certainly representing ordinary working people far better than any Democrat.

https://patrick.net/post/1334574?0#comment-1695097

Rin says

Patrick says

@Rin Yes, I agree.

Trump is about as far from patrician as you can get, and I think this is one thing that drives him. He was never accepted by NY society because he has the wrong mannerisms and style, the hair, the red ties etc. They don't care how much money he has.

In fact, he seems more like ordinary working class Americans than like the elite. And maybe this gives him a connection with voters.

He is certainly representing ordinary working people far better than any Democrat.

Trust me, as a first generation finance person in my family, I know what it's like to go from working class to being perceived as Patrician.

In Boston, unlike NYC, not appearing to be "too happening and too hip", while maintaining a mid-day cocktail and meeting other intellectuals at a place like Legal Seafoods, etc, makes one look like Olde New England money. Many ppl I meet, think that my great-great-grandfather was "possibly" a co-investor of a place like Polaroid when those ancestors were actually merchants, fishermen, etc, regular working class folks moving from Britain to America.

It's amazing to me that a person like Trump, could be so frank and upfront about his basic, trashy upbringing, ala Biff Tannen-esque. instead of simply investing and accumulating cash like another Cabot clan member in New England.

Nothing against 'the Cabots' but I had to bring up a 1st family as an example of aristocracy in New England.

I generally support Trump but not on everything. In fact I am quite livid over the deficit spending and central bank fiat fuckery that's transpired. I am also mad at the bump stock EO.
But on to his main detractors... by my observation they tend to fall into these categories: leftist NPC's,(ostensibly) "nice guys" who finish last, Beta "can't we all get along" types who contribute jack shit to maintaining order or productivity ("it's someone else's job" types), and the general schemers whose plans he disrupted. So in a way this lines up with the above comments.

Tenpoundbass says

. Losers hate Trump, they loved that Obama and Bush for the most part too.

I would say a lot of the Trump haters are a large portion of government career bureaucrats, arts people, circus people, mainstream media, academia, and benefactors of the victimhood industry, or social justice warrior industrial complex.

They mocked and ridiculed Bush Jr and Romney. So they never targeted them since both misfits never really fought back like Trump.