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GlocknLoad says

I believe you don't listen to the words either Trump or Biden say, you simply make an emotional decision based on HOW they are saying it.

Nah, cant be it, because Joe says shit like some senile 90+ y.o. granpa in a memory care facility.

Shake85 says

Correct. Trump loyalists were saying "Russia Hoax" not that Trump had the means motive and opportunity to use foreign means to dig up dirt on a political opponent and it should be looked into.

Look, the reason they screamed "Russia Collusion" is the scumbags that are our "government" are trying to restart the Cold War because the "defense" industry wants one - because it provides a reason to spend 1/4 of all federal expenditures on the military which is extremely lucrative.

Trump also said in an interview that it's insanity to go to conflict with Russia because it could lead to nuclear war - and he was right. So, they started screaming "Russian Collusion" before he was even in office. That, and Hillary Clinton had a bunch of dirty deals with Russia and Rosatom, and Biden was taken money from Moscow's former mayor. Trump is also a threat because all of DC is corrupt and now Trump has access to all that information. It's unknown what he will do with it.

You guys want evidence? How's this:

https://rumble.com/vb01cb-wide-spread-fraud-in-michigan-on-election-day-dave-kallman.html

https://twitter.com/lizrnc/status/1326018514113748993?s=21

Sworn testimonies and affidavits resulting in thousands of fraudulent votes in Michigan.

I heard Nancy Pelosi has agreed to Trump razing the block her house is on in San Francisco and zoning for a casino in her plea deal.

@patrick, please leave the trolls for just a little while longer.

www.youtube.com/embed/yM25-lz1Yms

I have a feeling the trolls are going to mostly "Self Deport" in less than a couple of weeks.

Truman had the sign on his desk saying: "The buck ends here". Maybe Trump should have a sign that reads: "The psyops end here".

Shake85 says

Did you think that there was any probability of fraud 4 years ago or didn't care?

Absolutely! But Trump won anyway.

Shake85 says

Did you think that there was any probability of fraud 4 years ago or didn't care?

I thought there was, and Jill Stein investigated it.

All of her investigations were turning up fraud in favor of the democrats, which is why she was so vilified by the left.

The "evidence" of "Russian interference" turned out to be from some click bait company making meme's like this:



Which is funny to me at least, but hardly capable of "dividing the nation" or throwing it to Trump. They spent $100,000 for ads on Facebook - mostly after the election, in a contest between Clinton that spent $4 billion dollars versus Trump that spent $2 billion dollars.

There was no "Russian interference" - Russia's government is fully aware that changes of the president doesn't change foreign policy against them, because elected officials have no control over foreign policy - the intelligence agencies determine that - even with Trump - which is why he added new sanctions against Russia, under duress, which is also why he was called a "Russian agent" specifically to prevent detente with Russia. They realize US elections are irrelevant to them.

The US is in competition with Russia to provide Europe with energy. The US gets "their" energy by bombing 3rd world nations into rubble and stealing their oil and natural gas reserves - Russia gets their energy resources from Russia.

We're the bad guy this time around but it's not "we" - it's our uncontrollable government. I'm FULLY confident we can compete if we just got this bloodsucking criminal syndicate off our back. They are parasites. They don't only destroy other nations, they destroy us as well. They are unable to negotiate with foreign nations, because they are retards, and it's not as lucrative for them to negotiate. They just use tax payer dollars to make war, put the debt of it on your back, your children's backs, your grandchildren's backs, you GREAT grandchildren's backs. They profit at the expense of your entire bloodline.

Stop having faith in your criminal government, please? It affects as all. Stop being loyal and be suspicious, please?

You guys really need to stop reading biased blogs that make up data. And look at the hard numbers.

I did a sample test of a few counties in PA.

in 2016 in Philadelphia...
Clinton got 82.3% of the vote - 584K votes.
Trump got 15.3% of the vote - 108K

in 2020 in Philadelphia...

Biden got 80.9% of the vote - 570K votes
Trump got 18.1% of the vote - 127K votes.

Where's the fraud in Philadelphia? Clinton won by a larger margin and got 33K better vote margin on Trump than Biden.

But if you dig into the red counties... Biden performed better than Clinton in most of them... those hundreds to thousands of votes add up over time. The mail in ballots from the Philly weren't the deal breaker and fraud trigger you guys think. It was Trump getting his ass handed to him by a thousand paper cuts of mail in ballots by democrats all over this country. Biden's going to win the popular vote by possibly 7 million votes! All the fraud numbers you keep adding up in a handful of swing state cities aren't where the mail in lead in votes for Biden were coming from! It was all over the state!

The big cities in PA just got crushed with mail in ballots.. but the numbers didn't show a much higher total turn out! If they were manufacturing ballots in Philly.. why would they give Trump more than in 2016 and Biden less than Clinton in 2016?

The numbers just came in late due to massive numbers of mail in ballots.... the in person vote was indeed a Red Mirage.

Dig into the numbers and all across the US this election 3rd party libertarian votes were stolen primarily from Trump. With Clinton’s in 2016 her vote count was hurt by 3rd party votes. Biden wasn’t hurt by 3rd party voting this election. That’s what made the biggest difference.

Easy: You're not taking into account that in 2016, Pennsylvania (the whole state) had less than 300k mail in ballots

In 2020, the mail in ballots sent out was around 3 Million. That's a 10X (!!!) increase.

Pennsylvania basically adopted a two-method voting system, and this year it's entirely novel.

Using 2016 as a comparison is flawed, since about half as many people in the whole state used mail-in ballots in 2016 than the entire city of Philadelphia had votes from all methods in either 2016 or 2020.

Iowa now auditing the results to make sure that cheating didn't somehow get more democrat votes than they should have....
I'm seriously impress with this action and every state should do this.

Also now maidengate with that being women voting under their married name and maiden name.

NoCoupForYou says

Pennsylvania basically adopted a two-method voting system, and this year it's entirely novel.

But Trump did better in Philly even with the mail in ballots which makes your fraud statistic highly suspect! If Philly is so corrupt with fraud... he would have done worse than 2016.

I don’t have time... but I suggest someone do a side by side county by county analysis of a swing state and compare 2016 vs 2020 for anomalies. Overall the samples I’ve done have shown slight gains by Biden even in red counties.

BoomAndBustCycle says

NoCoupForYou says

Pennsylvania basically adopted a two-method voting system, and this year it's entirely novel.

But Trump did better in Philly even with the mail in ballots which makes your fraud statistic highly suspect! If Philly is so corrupt with fraud... he would have done worse than 2016.

The fraud was committed in areas least suspect as you state above. The red counties likely have rampant voter fraud. You cheat where you think you're least likely to get caught. Cheating in Philly would be retarded. Some redneck location though, hey it's easy. And it is. Just because the cheating didn't happen where you'd think it would, doesn't mean it didn't happen.

I'll state again, that I'd be fine with Biden. He doesn't hurt me or cause me emotional fuckery like the left. But both parties should be on board with investigating cheating. There's no disputing that.

BoomAndBustCycle says

NoCoupForYou says

Pennsylvania basically adopted a two-method voting system, and this year it's entirely novel.

But Trump did better in Philly even with the mail in ballots which makes your fraud statistic highly suspect! If Philly is so corrupt with fraud... he would have done worse than 2016.

You just have to blow up the total votes in a bi-den heavy county, esp. densely populated city where an accurate census is difficult. This is how it was done I don't see anything suspect with that claim, whether Trump did better or not by a few percent doesn't matter if you blow up the total numbers. They just now need to dig for evidence of additional votes not belonging to anybody (alive) or double/triple/quadruple-voted.

mell says

You just have to blow up the total votes in a bi-den heavy county, esp. densely populated city where an accurate census is difficult. This is how it was done I don't see anything suspect with that claim. They just now need to dig for evidence of additional votes not belonging to anybody (alive) or double/triple/quadruple-voted.

They need to do in in every county that Trump won 65% or more of the vote also. The numbers of dead voters on either side will cancel out. I actually suspect a lot of double voting in red states. Trump suggested it to the meth heads.

BoomAndBustCycle says

mell says

You just have to blow up the total votes in a bi-den heavy county, esp. densely populated city where an accurate census is difficult. This is how it was done I don't see anything suspect with that claim. They just now need to dig for evidence of additional votes not belonging to anybody (alive) or double/triple/quadruple-voted.

They need to do in in every county that Trump won 65% or more of the vote also. The numbers of dead voters on either side will cancel out.

How do you know that? Did you perform analysis?

porkchopexpress says

How do you know that? Did you perform analysis?

No more than any subject in this site is actually analyzed.

BoomAndBustCycle says

mell says

You just have to blow up the total votes in a bi-den heavy county, esp. densely populated city where an accurate census is difficult. This is how it was done I don't see anything suspect with that claim. They just now need to dig for evidence of additional votes not belonging to anybody (alive) or double/triple/quadruple-voted.

They need to do in in every county that Trump won 65% or more of the vote also. The numbers of dead voters on either side will cancel out. I actually suspect a lot of double voting in red states. Trump suggested it to the meth heads.

Trump did not magically get 10 million more voters like bi-den did who didn't campaign it all. If there was fraud in red counties, it was at a minimal scale. If you think bi-den, an old white male campaigning from his basement - got 10MM more votes than Hillary in 2016 then yes, there is no widespread fraud for you. Also those counting glitches are pretty much proof for themselves - there should NEVER EVER be a reversal in votes, and NEVER EVER EVER a reversal where the exact same amount is added to the other candidate. Votes are either VALID and COUNTED or INVALID and NOT COUNTED. IF there is a recount or partial recount/audit it is possible some - later deemed invalid - votes are taken away after all have been counted. never on election night.

BoomAndBustCycle says

porkchopexpress says

How do you know that? Did you perform analysis?

No more than any subject in this site is actually analyzed.

lol

mell says

Trump did not magically get 10 million more voters like bi-den did who didn't campaign it all. If there was fraud in red counties, it was at a minimal scale. If you think bi-den got 10MM more votes than Hillary in 2016 then yes, there is no widespread fraud for you.

I just basically did with statistics showing a fairly clear lack of fraud in Philly. Add up the fraud in those Trump counties and it can be a lot when combined. Trump got 10 million more votes than himself in 2016. That’s what happens in record turnout years! Not sure what your trying to prove.

Trump got the most votes in history of a president... 2nd to Biden. He did really well... Biden just edged him out due to record turnout.

There are more registered democrats than republicans in the US... big turnout always hurts republicans.

BoomAndBustCycle says

He did really well... Biden just edged him out due to record turnout.

Come on dude. 10M+ votes. With Trump getting an additional ~7M votes. Where is almost 20M voters come from? It's not turnout as '16 was more contentious than this year.

It's not rocket science to realize the numbers don't add up this year. That doesn't mean that Trump didn't cheat either FYI. The numbers don't add up though from previous years. Population grows, but 20M people? No chance.

BoomAndBustCycle says

Biden just edged him out due to record turnout.

Nothing was proven, I explained that if you blow up the numbers in a county heavily favoring your candidate then you can win the election with a few counties. That is what is being alleged. I will give you that PA had the biggest advantage for Ds in early voting, so it's reasonable to assume the same advantage for most mail-in ballots. But that advantage was blown away percentage wise when the rest of those ballots were allegedly counted overnight. Benford's la simply precludes such a distribution. To me it's clear that WI and MI were stolen (80/20 if not 90/10 chance of Trump win by early voting analysis) when looking at basic math/statistics, PA obstructed the process enough to cast enough doubt over the legitimacy that it needs to be recounted/revoted. It's possible Biden won PA, but not more than a 50/50 chance to me. Nobody is saying there's enough proof yet, but the proof keeps mounting and I'd say there's enough to invalidate the election. I'd favor a whole redo of the election with federal ballots only (watermarked) and stringent ID requirements in place.

WookieMan says

The numbers don't add up though from previous years. Population grows, but 20M people? No chance.

Have we ever had a nationwide lockdown that scared the shit out of and affected everyone in the US? Have we ever had 4 years of a president spewing shot on Twitter everyday? Have we ever had 200 million Americans glued to Facebook arguing daily about politics?

I’m surprised the turnout wasn’t higher!

Record turnout of fraud. Keep in mind that this is on a percentage basis, so don't bother making the argument that "the population grew".

Actually Covid should have made the turnout lower. Plus bi-den not campaigning. Also it's almost completely irrelevant who is at the helm wrt Covid at this point. Presidents have said outrageous shit and bloopers since forever, no reason for record turnout. The majority of the additional record turnout are likely fraudulent mail in ballots. We will have to thoroughly investigate to determine what was fraud and what wasn't and then tally up again.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.seattletimes.com/nation-world/postal-worker-admits-fabricating-allegations-of-ballot-tampering-officials-say/%3famp=1

Already the postal worker is recanting his fraud storylines. Wonder if Richard Hopkins got a nice fat check or just spent too much time on theDonald.win

BoomAndBustCycle says

Already the postal worker is recanting his fraud storylines. Wonder if Richard Hopkins got a nice fat check or just spent too much time on theDonald.win

No he did not.
www.youtube.com/embed/BbcgsJ4BDxc

And now the audio of part of the USPS Interrogation is released; it's clear that the postal inspector wasn't the least interested in investigating the claim, only trying to strongarm Afghan Combat Vet Hopkins into recanting, threatening him that he would cause chaos. In fact, the guy flat out says he came on behalf of "two senators" and others. All behavior from the media and career officials reeks of trying to rush a steal in and then clamp unity over it, make the coup stick early is the best way to gain control.

Back to the election:
If there was record Turnout, why was the Philly vote total in 2020 not much different than 2016? Stories on election day about how cities had lower turnout than normal; that's how Reps flipped two seats in Metro Miami Area. Most other cities were recorded as have lower turnout than normal.

To believe the media narrative, you'd have to think that the hatred of Trump was so great that it caused Record Turnout, but that Deep Dark Blue areas where hate for Trump was supposed to be massive, only voted about the same as 2016.

My guess is that they had to make up for shitty in-person voting in Philly by manufacturing mail-ins, but the real steal was the "Glitches".

In PA we know Jo Jorgenson (L) was 2.3% at one point in the night with tens of thousands of votes, and then a few minutes later she was listed as having half as many votes and back to 1.2% - and Biden got the exact difference she lost. There's video of this somewhere, I think on this very forum.

Since libertarian voters are widely scattered, that this was some kind of tabulation feeding error or something is all but impossible. There would only be about 2 Libertarian votes in a lot of 100. It's not like they could have put them in backwards or something. It HAD to be either a Manual or Algo to move blocks of Libertarian votes to Biden because Libertarians are not found in Blocks like Reps in Rural Areas or Dems in big cities. There's no place in Pennsylvania where libertarian voters are the majority of any precinct, city, or county.

Which is evidence that the algo was assigned to flip votes to Biden when certain threshholds were hit.

NoCoupForYou says

If there was record Turnout, why was the Philly vote total in 2020 not much different than 2016?

Philly was a bit of an anomaly... i think the riots the weekend before the election turned off some voters. Maybe even scared some away from the polls. Other blue cities had larger turnouts than 2016... and EVERY purple county had larger turnouts by 10-20% margin. It’s pretty easy to compare the numbers... if I had time I’d make a spreadsheet. Anyone want to volunteer?

NoCoupForYou says

No he did not.

So Hopkins thinks he overheard someone say they forgot to postmark a ballot for Nov 3rd? That’s all his proof. I think he did recant it.... maybe got nervous, 2nd guessed his own memory. Then, saw his $136k in Gofundme funds go POOF and disappear and backtracked. Oh well, we shall find out soon enough.

BoomAndBustCycle says

nd EVERY purple county had larger turnouts by 10-20% margin.

Purple counties tend to be somewhat larger than rural counties, not remotely as big as the solid blue city counties though. Mine is considered purple, but only has 105k people. You would need a fuck ton of purple counties across the country to come anything close to the turnout we had. 20M more voters..... That's not a logical explanation of turnout.

This election season was very blah. Lots of other distractions. I'm not seeing how that would create more turn out. Biden not campaigning. Hell Trump took a week off with Covid. More and more people have cut the cable. So you choose your programming and you see substantially less political ads and media talking about the election. Anecdotal but there was exponentially less social media push for my peers this election. I know and work in Wisconsin and am slightly familiar with Michigan. Not a chance Biden flipped it.

The other states I don't know or have a feel for. But you're saying the entire state of Florida population wise was extra voters this year? FL and CA would have to vote twice to hit the 20M+ number, our two largest voting states. Mail in voting doesn't explain that either. The numbers don't add up with 330M population and 1/4 eligible voters not even registered and 1/4 of total population being kids. Even record registration and turnout doesn't explain the increase. Turnout out would have had to be 90% of registered voters. That did not happen.

BoomAndBustCycle says

But if you dig into the red counties... Biden performed better than Clinton in most of them... those hundreds to thousands of votes add up over time.

Agree, the fraud was really clever this time. While everyone was looking at the D counties they hacked the voting machines in the red ones.

https://www.pscp.tv/va_shiva/1BdGYYjgkgQGX

ignoreme says

Agree, the fraud was really clever this time. While everyone was looking at the D counties they hacked the voting machines in the red ones.

Yup. Steal or cheat from those that don't believe it will happen to them. My red flag went up when the polling people were people I've never seen or recognized in my community for my in person vote. I keep forgetting to message those guys and ask why they weren't there.

I think that video will click with people here, but it's going to be over the head of most Dems unfortunately.