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GlocknLoad says

Shake85 says

Did you think that there was any probability of fraud 4 years ago or didn't care?

Why would you ask this question? I don't remember it ever coming up other than Russia Russia Russia. The equivalent (it's not even close to being equivalent) would be to compare Russia Russia Russia (which was investigated for Trump's ENTIRE TERM) to say..."Ok, Russia paid for $100K worth of Facebook ads (Maybe Facebook is a treasonous organization for allowing it? Maybe Facebook is a foreign agent?) but the MSM gave billions of free slanted coverage in favor of Biden. Wouldn't you agree with that?

Correct. Trump loyalists were saying "Russia Hoax" not that Trump had the means motive and opportunity to use foreign means to dig up dirt on a political opponent and it should be looked into. All depends who you are rooting for. Still don't see what would make someone pull for the guy.

Shake85 says

Still don't see what would make someone pull for the guy.

You got proof? We got Biden and Obama ON FILM colluding with Russia and Ukraine. C'mon man!!!!

We got 2 choices as always. This time it was Trump or Biden. Please tell me why Biden is better than Trump for the AMERICAN people. Not for illegals, not for gays, not for pregnant mothers who want to kill their unborn child, not for blacks in the ghetto who simply blame whitey for errthang...for the AMERICAN people.

@Shake85 You do know that exactly the opposite happened, right? The Democrats used foreign means to "dig up dirt" on a political opponent. That's the Steele Dossier.

Fortunately, it was fabricated dirt, not real.

Now why would anyone root for Trump? You really don't see it?

How about knowing for a fact that both parties have been in bed together so long they don't have any more diseases to share? All pretense was up as soon as you saw GW Bush supporting Hillary.

The thing about Trump is exactly that none of the elite want him. That alone makes me want him to be president. Along with the fact that he is the only president since Carter not to start an armed conflict, and that the economy was doing great under him.

Patrick says

The thing about Trump is exactly that none of the elite want him. That alone makes me want him to be president.

It's not like Biden didn't say in one of his press conferences just prior to the election that they have the largest voter fraud operation in history or anything.

Oh wait. He did.

Senile old fuck.

I bet they wished they had that mic on a 10 second delay that day.

I don't buy that Biden is some far left, I know he was painted that way for political purposes by Trump campaign. I'd prefer drama free for a while. Biden doesn't seem like a poke the other team kind of guy. Don't know if he'll start any wars or boost the economy.

Shake85 says

I don't buy that Biden is some far left, I know he was painted that way for political purposes by Trump campaign.

His promises of amnesty for illegals, "assault weapons ban" and "no new fracking permits" among others are not far left enough for you?

Shake85 says

I don't buy that Biden is some far left, I know he was painted that way for political purposes by Trump campaign.

Good Lord...

Shake85 says

I don't buy that Biden is some far left, I know he was painted that way for political purposes by Trump campaign. I'd prefer drama free for a while. Biden doesn't seem like a poke the other team kind of guy. Don't know if he'll start any wars or boost the economy.

For shit sake, did you listen to anything Joe and the Hoe have been saying? I believe you don't listen to the words either Trump or Biden say, you simply make an emotional decision based on HOW they are saying it. That, right there, is some scary assed shit.

GlocknLoad says

I believe you don't listen to the words either Trump or Biden say, you simply make an emotional decision based on HOW they are saying it.

Nah, cant be it, because Joe says shit like some senile 90+ y.o. granpa in a memory care facility.

Shake85 says

Correct. Trump loyalists were saying "Russia Hoax" not that Trump had the means motive and opportunity to use foreign means to dig up dirt on a political opponent and it should be looked into.

Look, the reason they screamed "Russia Collusion" is the scumbags that are our "government" are trying to restart the Cold War because the "defense" industry wants one - because it provides a reason to spend 1/4 of all federal expenditures on the military which is extremely lucrative.

Trump also said in an interview that it's insanity to go to conflict with Russia because it could lead to nuclear war - and he was right. So, they started screaming "Russian Collusion" before he was even in office. That, and Hillary Clinton had a bunch of dirty deals with Russia and Rosatom, and Biden was taken money from Moscow's former mayor. Trump is also a threat because all of DC is corrupt and now Trump has access to all that information. It's unknown what he will do with it.

You guys want evidence? How's this:

https://rumble.com/vb01cb-wide-spread-fraud-in-michigan-on-election-day-dave-kallman.html

https://twitter.com/lizrnc/status/1326018514113748993?s=21

Sworn testimonies and affidavits resulting in thousands of fraudulent votes in Michigan.

I heard Nancy Pelosi has agreed to Trump razing the block her house is on in San Francisco and zoning for a casino in her plea deal.

@patrick, please leave the trolls for just a little while longer.

www.youtube.com/embed/yM25-lz1Yms

I have a feeling the trolls are going to mostly "Self Deport" in less than a couple of weeks.

Truman had the sign on his desk saying: "The buck ends here". Maybe Trump should have a sign that reads: "The psyops end here".

Shake85 says

Did you think that there was any probability of fraud 4 years ago or didn't care?

Absolutely! But Trump won anyway.

Shake85 says

Did you think that there was any probability of fraud 4 years ago or didn't care?

I thought there was, and Jill Stein investigated it.

All of her investigations were turning up fraud in favor of the democrats, which is why she was so vilified by the left.

The "evidence" of "Russian interference" turned out to be from some click bait company making meme's like this:



Which is funny to me at least, but hardly capable of "dividing the nation" or throwing it to Trump. They spent $100,000 for ads on Facebook - mostly after the election, in a contest between Clinton that spent $4 billion dollars versus Trump that spent $2 billion dollars.

There was no "Russian interference" - Russia's government is fully aware that changes of the president doesn't change foreign policy against them, because elected officials have no control over foreign policy - the intelligence agencies determine that - even with Trump - which is why he added new sanctions against Russia, under duress, which is also why he was called a "Russian agent" specifically to prevent detente with Russia. They realize US elections are irrelevant to them.

The US is in competition with Russia to provide Europe with energy. The US gets "their" energy by bombing 3rd world nations into rubble and stealing their oil and natural gas reserves - Russia gets their energy resources from Russia.

We're the bad guy this time around but it's not "we" - it's our uncontrollable government. I'm FULLY confident we can compete if we just got this bloodsucking criminal syndicate off our back. They are parasites. They don't only destroy other nations, they destroy us as well. They are unable to negotiate with foreign nations, because they are retards, and it's not as lucrative for them to negotiate. They just use tax payer dollars to make war, put the debt of it on your back, your children's backs, your grandchildren's backs, you GREAT grandchildren's backs. They profit at the expense of your entire bloodline.

Stop having faith in your criminal government, please? It affects as all. Stop being loyal and be suspicious, please?

You guys really need to stop reading biased blogs that make up data. And look at the hard numbers.

I did a sample test of a few counties in PA.

in 2016 in Philadelphia...
Clinton got 82.3% of the vote - 584K votes.
Trump got 15.3% of the vote - 108K

in 2020 in Philadelphia...

Biden got 80.9% of the vote - 570K votes
Trump got 18.1% of the vote - 127K votes.

Where's the fraud in Philadelphia? Clinton won by a larger margin and got 33K better vote margin on Trump than Biden.

But if you dig into the red counties... Biden performed better than Clinton in most of them... those hundreds to thousands of votes add up over time. The mail in ballots from the Philly weren't the deal breaker and fraud trigger you guys think. It was Trump getting his ass handed to him by a thousand paper cuts of mail in ballots by democrats all over this country. Biden's going to win the popular vote by possibly 7 million votes! All the fraud numbers you keep adding up in a handful of swing state cities aren't where the mail in lead in votes for Biden were coming from! It was all over the state!

The big cities in PA just got crushed with mail in ballots.. but the numbers didn't show a much higher total turn out! If they were manufacturing ballots in Philly.. why would they give Trump more than in 2016 and Biden less than Clinton in 2016?

The numbers just came in late due to massive numbers of mail in ballots.... the in person vote was indeed a Red Mirage.

Dig into the numbers and all across the US this election 3rd party libertarian votes were stolen primarily from Trump. With Clinton’s in 2016 her vote count was hurt by 3rd party votes. Biden wasn’t hurt by 3rd party voting this election. That’s what made the biggest difference.

Easy: You're not taking into account that in 2016, Pennsylvania (the whole state) had less than 300k mail in ballots

In 2020, the mail in ballots sent out was around 3 Million. That's a 10X (!!!) increase.

Pennsylvania basically adopted a two-method voting system, and this year it's entirely novel.

Using 2016 as a comparison is flawed, since about half as many people in the whole state used mail-in ballots in 2016 than the entire city of Philadelphia had votes from all methods in either 2016 or 2020.

Iowa now auditing the results to make sure that cheating didn't somehow get more democrat votes than they should have....
I'm seriously impress with this action and every state should do this.

Also now maidengate with that being women voting under their married name and maiden name.

NoCoupForYou says

Pennsylvania basically adopted a two-method voting system, and this year it's entirely novel.

But Trump did better in Philly even with the mail in ballots which makes your fraud statistic highly suspect! If Philly is so corrupt with fraud... he would have done worse than 2016.

I don’t have time... but I suggest someone do a side by side county by county analysis of a swing state and compare 2016 vs 2020 for anomalies. Overall the samples I’ve done have shown slight gains by Biden even in red counties.

BoomAndBustCycle says

NoCoupForYou says

Pennsylvania basically adopted a two-method voting system, and this year it's entirely novel.

But Trump did better in Philly even with the mail in ballots which makes your fraud statistic highly suspect! If Philly is so corrupt with fraud... he would have done worse than 2016.

The fraud was committed in areas least suspect as you state above. The red counties likely have rampant voter fraud. You cheat where you think you're least likely to get caught. Cheating in Philly would be retarded. Some redneck location though, hey it's easy. And it is. Just because the cheating didn't happen where you'd think it would, doesn't mean it didn't happen.

I'll state again, that I'd be fine with Biden. He doesn't hurt me or cause me emotional fuckery like the left. But both parties should be on board with investigating cheating. There's no disputing that.

BoomAndBustCycle says

NoCoupForYou says

Pennsylvania basically adopted a two-method voting system, and this year it's entirely novel.

But Trump did better in Philly even with the mail in ballots which makes your fraud statistic highly suspect! If Philly is so corrupt with fraud... he would have done worse than 2016.

You just have to blow up the total votes in a bi-den heavy county, esp. densely populated city where an accurate census is difficult. This is how it was done I don't see anything suspect with that claim, whether Trump did better or not by a few percent doesn't matter if you blow up the total numbers. They just now need to dig for evidence of additional votes not belonging to anybody (alive) or double/triple/quadruple-voted.

mell says

You just have to blow up the total votes in a bi-den heavy county, esp. densely populated city where an accurate census is difficult. This is how it was done I don't see anything suspect with that claim. They just now need to dig for evidence of additional votes not belonging to anybody (alive) or double/triple/quadruple-voted.

They need to do in in every county that Trump won 65% or more of the vote also. The numbers of dead voters on either side will cancel out. I actually suspect a lot of double voting in red states. Trump suggested it to the meth heads.

BoomAndBustCycle says

mell says

You just have to blow up the total votes in a bi-den heavy county, esp. densely populated city where an accurate census is difficult. This is how it was done I don't see anything suspect with that claim. They just now need to dig for evidence of additional votes not belonging to anybody (alive) or double/triple/quadruple-voted.

They need to do in in every county that Trump won 65% or more of the vote also. The numbers of dead voters on either side will cancel out.

How do you know that? Did you perform analysis?

porkchopexpress says

How do you know that? Did you perform analysis?

No more than any subject in this site is actually analyzed.

BoomAndBustCycle says

mell says

You just have to blow up the total votes in a bi-den heavy county, esp. densely populated city where an accurate census is difficult. This is how it was done I don't see anything suspect with that claim. They just now need to dig for evidence of additional votes not belonging to anybody (alive) or double/triple/quadruple-voted.

They need to do in in every county that Trump won 65% or more of the vote also. The numbers of dead voters on either side will cancel out. I actually suspect a lot of double voting in red states. Trump suggested it to the meth heads.

Trump did not magically get 10 million more voters like bi-den did who didn't campaign it all. If there was fraud in red counties, it was at a minimal scale. If you think bi-den, an old white male campaigning from his basement - got 10MM more votes than Hillary in 2016 then yes, there is no widespread fraud for you. Also those counting glitches are pretty much proof for themselves - there should NEVER EVER be a reversal in votes, and NEVER EVER EVER a reversal where the exact same amount is added to the other candidate. Votes are either VALID and COUNTED or INVALID and NOT COUNTED. IF there is a recount or partial recount/audit it is possible some - later deemed invalid - votes are taken away after all have been counted. never on election night.

BoomAndBustCycle says

porkchopexpress says

How do you know that? Did you perform analysis?

No more than any subject in this site is actually analyzed.

lol

mell says

Trump did not magically get 10 million more voters like bi-den did who didn't campaign it all. If there was fraud in red counties, it was at a minimal scale. If you think bi-den got 10MM more votes than Hillary in 2016 then yes, there is no widespread fraud for you.

I just basically did with statistics showing a fairly clear lack of fraud in Philly. Add up the fraud in those Trump counties and it can be a lot when combined. Trump got 10 million more votes than himself in 2016. That’s what happens in record turnout years! Not sure what your trying to prove.

Trump got the most votes in history of a president... 2nd to Biden. He did really well... Biden just edged him out due to record turnout.

There are more registered democrats than republicans in the US... big turnout always hurts republicans.

BoomAndBustCycle says

He did really well... Biden just edged him out due to record turnout.

Come on dude. 10M+ votes. With Trump getting an additional ~7M votes. Where is almost 20M voters come from? It's not turnout as '16 was more contentious than this year.

It's not rocket science to realize the numbers don't add up this year. That doesn't mean that Trump didn't cheat either FYI. The numbers don't add up though from previous years. Population grows, but 20M people? No chance.

BoomAndBustCycle says

Biden just edged him out due to record turnout.

Nothing was proven, I explained that if you blow up the numbers in a county heavily favoring your candidate then you can win the election with a few counties. That is what is being alleged. I will give you that PA had the biggest advantage for Ds in early voting, so it's reasonable to assume the same advantage for most mail-in ballots. But that advantage was blown away percentage wise when the rest of those ballots were allegedly counted overnight. Benford's la simply precludes such a distribution. To me it's clear that WI and MI were stolen (80/20 if not 90/10 chance of Trump win by early voting analysis) when looking at basic math/statistics, PA obstructed the process enough to cast enough doubt over the legitimacy that it needs to be recounted/revoted. It's possible Biden won PA, but not more than a 50/50 chance to me. Nobody is saying there's enough proof yet, but the proof keeps mounting and I'd say there's enough to invalidate the election. I'd favor a whole redo of the election with federal ballots only (watermarked) and stringent ID requirements in place.

WookieMan says

The numbers don't add up though from previous years. Population grows, but 20M people? No chance.

Have we ever had a nationwide lockdown that scared the shit out of and affected everyone in the US? Have we ever had 4 years of a president spewing shot on Twitter everyday? Have we ever had 200 million Americans glued to Facebook arguing daily about politics?

I’m surprised the turnout wasn’t higher!

Record turnout of fraud. Keep in mind that this is on a percentage basis, so don't bother making the argument that "the population grew".