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Bitcoin Misinformation


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2020 Nov 10, 10:01am   133,085 views  2,169 comments

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In my opinion, it’s a colossal pump-and-dump scheme, the likes of which the world has never seen. In a pump-and-dump game, promoters “pump” up the price of a security creating a speculative frenzy, then “dump” some of their holdings at artificially high prices. And some cryptocurrencies are pure frauds. Ernst & Young estimates that 10 percent of the money raised for initial coin offerings has been stolen.

The losers are ill-informed buyers caught up in the spiral of greed. The result is a massive transfer of wealth from ordinary families to internet promoters. And “massive” is a massive understatement — 1,500 different cryptocurrencies now register over $300 billion of “value.”

https://www.vox.com/2018/4/24/17275202/bitcoin-scam-cryptocurrency-mining-pump-dump-fraud-ico-value

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490   Bitcoin   2020 Dec 21, 9:23pm  

Regarding trading fees.

Paypal is free until year end. Exchanges often run promotions/offer reduced fees.
Coinbase Pro is for a bit more advanced users/traders. Coinbase is for beginners and the fees are higher.

Here are the fees I am happy to pay. Just put in a few buy orders in case we see a dip.



and here is the PayPal promotion
491   Bitcoin   2020 Dec 21, 9:32pm  

WookieMan says
Nice commission though for a decentralized "currency." .


Lol, another one for the list.

Just because Bitcoin is decentralized doesn't mean exchanges (who facilitate the trading tools) run a charity and hire volunteers. It really shows the level of intelligence we are dealing with here. Thanks for another dumb comment.
492   Onvacation   2020 Dec 21, 9:43pm  

G36 says
It really shows the level of intelligence we are dealing with here. Thanks for another dumb comment.

You have to admit a $100 fee to buy a bitcoin and a $100 fee to sell a bitcoin add up.

What was the fee for your last buy?
493   WookieMan   2020 Dec 21, 9:49pm  

Patrick says
Is it possible that some genius will figure out how to instantly tell which bits they need to put in to get the desired output? I think it is possible. Maybe not quite yet, or maybe someone already knows and is siphoning value off.

There's that and the fact one person could be holding 1/2 of all coins and playing with a yo yo. Doesn't even have to be technical with the hash and someone figure it out, though that is a possible risk. No one has a clue about any of it.

That's the hilarious part. People telling other people they don't know what they're talking about, when they don't even know what they're talking about. Insecure to the max.
494   Bitcoin   2020 Dec 21, 9:56pm  

Onvacation says
G36 says
It really shows the level of intelligence we are dealing with here. Thanks for another dumb comment.

You have to admit

What was the fee for your last buy?


What is there to admit?

Several of my buy orders for ETH filled today. On one purchase the fee was $3.04 US Dollars.
495   Bitcoin   2020 Dec 21, 9:58pm  

WookieMan says
Patrick says
Is it possible that some genius will figure out how to instantly tell which bits they need to put in to get the desired output? I think it is possible. Maybe not quite yet, or maybe someone already knows and is siphoning value off.



they don't even know what they're talking about.


Wookie, lets do a test. Do you acknowledge by now that Bitcoin is decentralized and scarce?
496   Onvacation   2020 Dec 21, 10:10pm  

Patrick says
Do you really understand the SHA-256 hash algorithm? I don't. Is it possible that some genius will figure out how to instantly tell which bits they need to put in to get the desired output? I think it is possible. Maybe not quite yet, or maybe someone already knows and is siphoning value off.

Or maybe quantum computing will have a breakthrough that allows the owner of that computer to do the SHA-256 calculation a trillion times faster than anyone else. Then that person can take all the value.

A couple of the many flaws of bitcoin, but I think the biggest issue is the energy consumption. It's just not sustainable.
497   Onvacation   2020 Dec 21, 10:14pm  

G36 says
Bitcoin is decentralized and scarce?

So are beautiful Russian hookers, that doesn't mean he wants any... At least I don't.

Wookie, your not into beautiful, yet scarce and decentralized, Russian hookers, are you?
498   Bitcoin   2020 Dec 21, 10:17pm  

Onvacation says
G36 says
Bitcoin is decentralized and scarce?

So are beautiful Russian hookers



You mention hookers quite often....Maybe think of getting your first girlfriend? Not sure, but it might even be cheaper than getting hookers! If it is, you will have available funds to buy more Satoshis!
499   Onvacation   2020 Dec 21, 10:36pm  

G36 says


You mention hookers quite often

Russian Hookers. I hear it's one of the main reasons bitcoin exists. That and money laundering.
500   WookieMan   2020 Dec 21, 10:48pm  

Onvacation says
G36 says


You mention hookers quite often

Russian Hookers. I hear it's one of the main reasons bitcoin exists. That and money laundering.

One would have to travel to understand and meet people that want to exchange bitcoin. The world is very different outside of mom's basement behind a screen and playing with spreadsheets.
501   Bitcoin   2020 Dec 22, 5:34am  

Onvacation says
G36 says


You mention hookers quite often

Russian Hookers. I hear it's one of the main reasons bitcoin exists. That and money laundering.


Apparently, the prostitutes didn't accept your silver coins? I'd keep Bitcoin as digital gold but you are in a different situation.
502   Bitcoin   2020 Dec 22, 5:37am  

Onvacation says
G36 says
Bitcoin is decentralized and scarce?

So are beautiful Russian hookers, that doesn't mean he wants any... At least I don't.

Wookie, your not into beautiful, yet scarce and decentralized, Russian hookers, are you?


See, Wookie, G36 says
WookieMan says
Patrick says
Is it possible that some genius will figure out how to instantly tell which bits they need to put in to get the desired output? I think it is possible. Maybe not quite yet, or maybe someone already knows and is siphoning value off.



they don't even know what they're talking about.


Wookie, lets do a test. Do you acknowledge by now that Bitcoin is decentralized and scarce?


See, wookie never answers any questions. He posts since years on Bitcoin threads without any intend to have a discussion. One could ask, why does Bitcoin make him feel so insecure?
503   Onvacation   2020 Dec 22, 8:25am  

G36 says
wookie never answers any questions.

So why do YOU think bitcoin is better than gold?

Not expecting a cogent answer.
504   Onvacation   2020 Dec 22, 8:27am  

G36 says
why does Bitcoin make him feel so insecure?

Yeah @WookieMan

Why does bitcoin make you SO insecure?
505   Bitcoin   2020 Dec 22, 8:32am  

Onvacation says
G36 says
wookie never answers any questions.

So why do YOU think bitcoin is better than gold?



You kinda answered your own question. Apparently, the prostitutes you are seeing rather want Bitcoin instead of your silver coins.
They didnt ask for physical gold either, did they?
506   Bitcoin   2020 Dec 22, 8:33am  

Onvacation says
G36 says
why does Bitcoin make him feel so insecure?

Yeah @WookieMan

Why does bitcoin make you SO insecure?


I know why. He posts since years on Bitcoin threads and didnt manage to accumulate a single Bitcoin. yeah, but he got 100 shares of LUV. Rofl
507   Onvacation   2020 Dec 22, 8:37am  

G36 says

You kinda answered your own question

How so?
Onvacation says
G36 says
wookie never answers any questions.

So why do YOU think bitcoin is better than gold?

Not expecting a cogent answer.
508   Onvacation   2020 Dec 22, 8:38am  

It's projection.

It's not Wookie that doesn't answer questions.
509   Bitcoin   2020 Dec 22, 8:54am  

Wookie,
since you live in a cold shithole I understand you want to go on vacation during winter. I am outside daily here....nice and sunny, low 70's....perfect for December. HAHA
Your problem is that the 100 shares of LUV dont get you very far. Consider doing some overtime besides the night shift. poor guy

Ov,
You kinda answered your own question. Apparently, the prostitutes you are seeing rather want Bitcoin instead of your silver coins.
They didnt ask for physical gold either, did they?
510   WookieMan   2020 Dec 22, 9:03am  

Onvacation says
It's projection.

It's not Wookie that doesn't answer questions.

I'll answer actually. Decentralized means no middle man. No 3rd party. No government. No nothing. Person to person. Is that BTC for 99% of people that transfer it? Mt Gox didn't happen, right? That wasn't a centralized authority transferring BTC at all? Nope... lol.

Scarcity... Let me know when there's a scarcity of spreadsheets. lol. It's sad you don't know what your "digital gold" is. Any human on the planet with programming knowledge can make a crypto coin. The person that markets it the best screws over the most people. Guess who you are?
511   WookieMan   2020 Dec 22, 9:07am  

G36 says
since you live in a cold shithole I understand you want to go on vacation during winter.

Since I'm a man and can handle simple season changes... lol, it's not a big deal. Didn't know you were so soft that you can't put on a jacket when it gets a little cold. Hopefully mom tucks you in nice and tight when the lows hit 55.

I'm also not an idiot that pays 4-6x's normal COL because of weather. If people like that and can admit it, that's fine. But don't talk down on cold weather just because you cannot handle it. Builds character, which you don't have obviously.
512   Bitcoin   2020 Dec 22, 11:00am  

WookieMan says
G36 says
since you live in a cold shithole I understand you want to go on vacation during winter.

a man


Wookie, no wonder you dont exercise outdoors, you are not a man yet and its too cold for ya.
You should keep doing those night shifts and maybe some OT. At some point you will hopefully be able to move out of the cold shithole. good luck.
513   Onvacation   2020 Dec 22, 11:05am  

G36 says
At some point you will hopefully be able to move out of the cold shithole. good luck.

The topic is "Bitcoin is a scam" not "insult the anonymous internet forum poster".

If I had tried to give my wife a flash drive rather than a golden ring she probably would not have married me and I got lucky with a really good wife.

WHY do you think bitcoin is better than gold?
514   Bitcoin   2020 Dec 22, 12:47pm  

Bitcoin has advantages over gold and fiat.
515   Onvacation   2020 Dec 22, 12:52pm  

G36 says
Bitcoin has advantages over gold and fiat.

That sounds robotic.

It is dangerous for bots to train their artificial intelligence on patnet.

We had this one bot who got so baffled by the cognitive dissonance between his programming and the input from this forum that he figuratively blew a fuse and started posting nonsense...

oh, sorry.
516   Bitcoin   2020 Dec 22, 12:54pm  

Because you dont like the facts you say its robotic....lame. :)
Facts are facts buddy.
517   WookieMan   2020 Dec 22, 1:52pm  

G36 says
Facts are facts buddy.

What are the facts? Explain the chart. Line by line in a couple sentences. What is the difference between low, moderate and high? Just explain it instead of posting it 20 times in the last week. It cannot be that difficult. Yet you haven't.
518   Bitcoin   2020 Dec 22, 3:02pm  

For an avg person, there is not much to explain on this chart.
You are way below avg. You cant fix stupid. You cant even grasp that Bitcoin is decentralized and scarce. You dont even know what you wrote a day ago. You just hope to somehow be relevant with your trash posts.

"I like to play the bigger numbers" "I bought 100 shares of LUV"
"I dont trade. Its a losers game"
"I'd actually consider trading BTC"
"Fuck no on holding though"
"I dont care about the price of BTC"
"8k by year end"
"its going to land in the 1000-2500 range"
"no x axis"......DF is too dumb to open up the source thats listed on the chart. I guess he really is too fuckin dumb to get that the x axis is the timeline.
"Wait, wait, wait. I thought it was 9,000,000%. Is it 17,918.98% or 9,000,000%?"
"Basic index funds have outperformed BTC"
>>>>REALLY? missed the fact that its up by 9,000,000%? Not a surprise, DF.
"an unregulated market"
"roulette"
"Nuclear EMP goes off"
"Would have sold everything at 18k"
"I am good with 9%"
"Bitcoin is not backed by anything"
"artificial scarcity"
"I only care about 6 figure gains"
"wake up at 6am and your money is all gone"
>>>>REALLY? missed the fact that its up by 9,000,000%? Not a surprise, DF.
519   Onvacation   2020 Dec 22, 3:16pm  

G36 says
decentralized and scarce


520   WookieMan   2020 Dec 22, 8:05pm  

G36 says
You cant fix stupid.

I know. Patrick doesn't like personal comments. I can delete yours in a heartbeat and Patrick wouldn't have a problem. I've let you rant on and on. You ever wonder why?
521   RWSGFY   2020 Dec 22, 8:22pm  

WookieMan says
G36 says
You cant fix stupid.

I know. Patrick doesn't like personal comments. I can delete yours in a heartbeat and Patrick wouldn't have a problem. I've let you rant on and on. You ever wonder why?


Because everybody else has his ass on ignore?
522   WookieMan   2020 Dec 22, 8:24pm  

FuckCCP89 says
Because everybody else has his ass on ignore?

Only showing 1 ignore. But it's a newer account/username. Most had him on ignore previously.
523   Bitcoin   2020 Dec 22, 10:11pm  

Price still above 23K. Merry Christmas to all BTC holders out there!



Sry wookie and OV. :)
524   Onvacation   2020 Dec 23, 2:23pm  

G36 says
Price still above 23K.

If you sell now you can make a couple grand!
525   Eric Holder   2020 Dec 23, 2:42pm  

Onvacation says
G36 says
Price still above 23K.

If you sell now you can make a couple grand!


Hookers! Blow!
526   Bitcoin   2020 Dec 23, 2:45pm  

No way am I selling my precious Bitcoin. They are not making any more! I am competing with hedge funds, banks, insurance companies and maybe Tesla soon. Everyone wants Bitcoin! HODL HODL HODL
527   Bitcoin   2020 Dec 23, 8:24pm  

I love how shiny Bitcoins are....and so precious and valuable! I think it was the best invention since the internet.

528   Onvacation   2020 Dec 23, 9:19pm  

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529   Bitcoin   2020 Dec 23, 9:50pm  

Ethereum coins are beautiful too

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