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Patrick says

Maybe this election will help get people more interested in voting security.

We cannot even bring up Voter ID without a Dem outpouring of accusations of "racism."

HeadSet says

We cannot even bring up Voter ID without a Dem outpouring of accusations of "racism."

Turn it around and accuse them of being racist for assuming that colored ppl are less capable of performing simple tasks like obtaining an id.

I like that idea.

Accuse them of "the bigotry of low expectations".

I want to belive your wrong, but it seems they are already laying the groundwork with the..."lack of transition" narrative. Have been since the week after the election

https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/12/politics/transition-pentagon-chaos-intelligence-national-security-threat/index.html

https://www.npr.org/2020/11/19/936289709/history-suggests-delay-in-trump-biden-transition-could-mean-danger

Besides if the Industrial Millitary Complex wants more war... why not set up a false flag operation to pull is into one (or more) conflicts. Sadly it wouldn't be the first time.

Ugh.

It's usually old people who no longer drive, not people of a certain race, who wind up the group most likely to be disenfranchised by ID requirements.

IDK how it is in everyone else's county, but Los Angeles' system has always been secure without needing IDs. Voters are checked in by stating their name and address, which are checked against master lists of vetted names and address. Fictitious names and addresses won't fly, and an address with an unusual number of voters that somehow made it through the registration process would stand out, even looking at the list upside down from my side of the table.

I'd still prefer that they check ID. You might know that someone's not going to vote and so go in and vote as them if you didn't have to show ID.

Patrick says

I'd still prefer that they check ID. You might know that someone's not going to vote and so go in and vote as them if you didn't have to show ID.

Voting in person and with ID stops a huge amount of fraud that is easy with mail-ins. For one, most people aren't going to return multiple times to the same voting station with different IDs and on the one, single voting day. Also, people aren't going to be bribed ... you can take the money and promise a certain vote, but once you get behind the curtain you can do whatever you want and still collected the money. And, getting yourself down to the voting station on the right day is a tiny bit of effort compared to door-to-door vote harvesting.

Patrick says

Maybe this election will help get people more interested in voting security.

A well funded group of ideologues has a vested interest in exploiting the lack of voting security. Besides that, the Balkanization has begun, Philadelphia and Detroit have essentially nothing in common culture or values with any red county or city.

Let’s face it, the republic is in the choke hold of the globalists and their minions in media, academia, politics, intelligentsia and even the highest offices of organized religion.

Your first clue should be the attack on free speech. When people don’t feel comfortable speaking the truth about their beliefs they are already living under tyranny.

For at least 30 years the left has dominated academia, and new hires are now 20-40/1 left vs right at all levels of government and academia and media. These are the people shaping “public opinion.”

The fires of globalism are raging and they have labeled as bigots and radicals anyone who dares take out their little squirt gun of free speech truth to try to put down the flames. Trump got out the fire hose from time to time but one man is no match for their networks of lies and oppression.

“For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.”
‭‭Ephesians‬ ‭6:12‬ ‭KJV‬‬
https://www.bible.com/1/eph.6.12.kjv

My father voted in person past age 90.

clambo says

My father voted in person past age 90.

Exactly!
I was doing a tiny bit of research about the "Spanish" Flu of 1918. That was a mid-term election, and November was some of the worst of the flu. In America the flu killed 675,000 people out of a population of about 100 million — nearly 8x more deadly per capita than the WuFlu.

SunnyvaleCA says

clambo says

My father voted in person past age 90.

Exactly!
I was doing a tiny bit of research about the "Spanish" Flu of 1918. That was a mid-term election, and November was some of the worst of the flu. In America the flu killed 675,000 people out of a population of about 100 million — nearly 8x more deadly per capita than the WuFlu.

Considering anything and everything can be classified as a death from sars-cov2-19 today, I think in comparison the Spanish flu was much worse.

When I was a little kid, my great grandparents and their sisters and brothers had lived through the Spanish flu. I talked to them at length (though the mind of a child of course) and ALL of them knew somebody who died of the Spanish flu in the 1910's. Every single one. I value their opinions on the Great Depression as well - they went through it as young adults. "If only I didn't have any debt" was a common thing I heard.

From what I remember them telling me, I do not think we are going through a true pandemic. This is similar to a very bad flu season, not the black plague.

SunnyvaleCA says

I was doing a tiny bit of research about the "Spanish" Flu of 1918. That was a mid-term election, and November was some of the worst of the flu. In America the flu killed 675,000 people out of a population of about 100 million — nearly 8x more deadly per capita than the WuFlu.

My great grandfather came to the US from Poland but then died of the Spanish Flu.

Patrick says

SunnyvaleCA says

I was doing a tiny bit of research about the "Spanish" Flu of 1918. That was a mid-term election, and November was some of the worst of the flu. In America the flu killed 675,000 people out of a population of about 100 million — nearly 8x more deadly per capita than the WuFlu.

My great grandfather came to the US from Poland but then died of the Spanish Flu.

That's interesting, my great grandfather is also from Poland. He escaped just before the German invasion of WWII.

That's interesting, my great grandfather is also from Poland. He escaped just before the German invasion of WWII.

If he was from eastern Poland, his hometown may not even be part of Poland anymore. Quite a huge chunk of eastern Poland was annexed after the war by the USSR.

Mine was from Lodz, more properly Łódź, pronounced "woodj".

I have a picture of him somewhere... Here it is:

Polish great grandfather too.

Grandmother survived 1918 flu at around 8 years old if I recall? Lived to 101. She said she heard the doc outside her bedroom tell her mom she wouldn't make it. Yet she did.

Patrick says

Maybe this election will help get people more interested in voting security.

If voting mattered, it wouldn't be allowed is the old saying...never has it been more visible than in this years election...And yet people still want to believe that their vote matters

Patrick says

I have a picture of him somewhere... Here it is:

Here's something to think about - pictures of you today can survive the next 1000 years through your progeny, along with video. There isn't going to be any improvement in camera or video technology. Your great great great grandchildren will be able to see what you looked like, how you sounded, 200 years from now, as if it was recorded yesterday from their point of view. We are at the pinnacle of archival technology.

3d is never going to catch on, nobody wants it, but that's the only possible "improvement" that may happen, and that can be reconstructed through AI anyhow. It's already been done in films, and the technology just gets cheaper.

Have you noticed that accents are dying out across the world? This is because of television and film. Back in 1930, when "talkies" came out, people from Australia realized they couldn't understand the accents of people in films that came from the United States. This is why "mid Atlantic" became fashionable to be used in film. That (fake) accent was most understandable to all english speaking nations.

komputodo says

Patrick says

Maybe this election will help get people more interested in voting security.

If voting mattered, it wouldn't be allowed is the old saying...never has it been more visible than in this years election...And yet people still want to believe that their vote matters

Voting does matter.
How do you know it didn't matter this year? 100s of lawsuits are telling the story that it matters.

The ones who tried to make it not matter are going to lose their clothes soon and people may recommend government to bring back medieval "death by stoning" back... thats how much it matter.
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/12/new-lawsuit-will-filed-today-mark-zuckerberg-dark-money-enabled-fraud-key-states-video/

HeadSet says

Think about why Virginia is blue.

Because of ballot box stuffing.

just_passing_through says

Polish great grandfather too.

Grandmother survived 1918 flu at around 8 years old if I recall? Lived to 101. She said she heard the doc outside her bedroom tell her mom she wouldn't make it. Yet she did.

Was that doctor by any chance Dr Fauci in his younger days?

election2020 says

Voting does matter.
How do you know it didn't matter this year? 100s of lawsuits are telling the story that it matters.

I guess we'll find out when we see who is living in the white house in Feb.

just_passing_through says

Grandmother survived 1918 flu at around 8 years old if I recall? Lived to 101. She said she heard the doc outside her bedroom tell her mom she wouldn't make it. Yet she did.

I've read that the Spanish Flu killed people between 30 and 40 years old mostly, not the young and not the old. And they still don't know why that is.