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264   AD   2023 Dec 27, 12:54am  

Get 10 hours and 13 minutes of daylight in Panama City Beach today

Miami Beach gets 10 hours and 30 minutes ... its usually about 10 degrees warmer in Miami Beach compared to Panama City Beach from 1 December to 1 March

Montreal gets 8 hours and 45 minutes
265   WookieMan   2023 Dec 27, 4:14am  

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Get 10 hours and 13 minutes of daylight in Panama City Beach today

Wish I was there. Been soooooo dark and gloomy here in IL. No snow though. January should be fun though. Fort Lauderdale and then off to the Bahamas. 3 days home and then out to Montana.

I might not tell my wife, but I'm thinking of sneaking onto her Costa Rica girls trip/flight without her knowing in February. Flight is free besides international fees/taxes. I can't work until May so might see if my mom can manage the kids. Get a lift over to Tamarindo and get the cheapest place to stay and do my own thing for a week. Been wanting to try surfing and that's the place to do it. Never technically traveled solo for fun without friends or family being there.

Probably a bad idea if I get caught, but these trip photos are giving me FOMO. If it's just me I could do Costa for under $1k no problem for a week.
266   Booger   2023 Dec 27, 6:34am  

ad says

Get 10 hours and 13 minutes of daylight in Panama City Beach today

Miami Beach gets 10 hours and 30 minutes ... its usually about 10 degrees warmer in Miami Beach compared to Panama City Beach from 1 December to 1 March

Montreal gets 8 hours and 45 minutes


The getting dark before 5PM fucking sucks, and will be a consideration if I move for retirement.
267   just_passing_through   2023 Dec 27, 11:03am  

Booger says

The getting dark before 5PM fucking sucks, and will be a consideration if I move for retirement.


I've heard every time we change the clocks for 'savings time', we get a temporary bump in senior deaths due to the added stress.
268   RWSGFY   2023 Dec 27, 12:12pm  

just_passing_through says

Booger says


The getting dark before 5PM fucking sucks, and will be a consideration if I move for retirement.


I've heard every time we change the clocks for 'savings time', we get a temporary bump in senior deaths due to the added stress.


Makes no sense: why would seniors of all people be "stressed" about time change?
269   just_passing_through   2023 Dec 27, 12:14pm  

RWSGFY says


Makes no sense: why would seniors of all people be "stressed" about time change?


Physical stress from less sleep or change in sleep pattern in general. Not psychological stress. When you're very old little shit matters.
270   just_passing_through   2023 Dec 27, 12:17pm  

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7084938/

"Disruption of diurnal cycles could compromise the function of various organ functions, leading to increased mortality risks linked to many different causes, rendering all-cause mortality a reasonable endpoint."

"During the week after the spring transition a significant increase in daily total mortality of about 3% per day was observed."

That paper doesn't mention age but I just skimmed it. I'm sure there are plenty of other papers.
271   WookieMan   2023 Dec 27, 1:27pm  

just_passing_through says

Booger says

The getting dark before 5PM fucking sucks, and will be a consideration if I move for retirement.

I've heard every time we change the clocks for 'savings time', we get a temporary bump in senior deaths due to the added stress.

Are we not on "regular" time right now? I might be mistaken? We save the hours of the day and sunlight from spring to fall. We eat shit in the winter. I've never cared to research it, but I believe I'm correct. Or I flip flopped the seasons. It's about morning light more than anything.
272   zzyzzx   2023 Dec 27, 2:10pm  

RWSGFY says

Makes no sense: why would seniors of all people be "stressed" about time change?


Don't most retired people sleep in every day anyway? I can't see the time change affecting them at all.
273   just_passing_through   2023 Dec 27, 5:54pm  

zzyzzx says


Don't most retired people sleep in every day anyway? I can't see the time change affecting them at all.


Well, if you search for that in a search engine you'll get pages of articles etc., stating that it's in fact a thing.

Apparently not just old people too. Car accidents, machine accidents etc., from tired people.

From what I read this morning there is a slight protective effect when we get an extra hour of sleep. A bigger negative effect when we lose one.
275   Onvacation   2024 Mar 16, 5:24pm  

Heading toward Berkeley


276   Onvacation   2024 Apr 7, 4:00pm  

Snow on Mt Diablo

Beautiful hike this morning
277   WookieMan   2024 Apr 7, 4:28pm  

Onvacation says


Snow on Mt Diablo

Beautiful hike this morning

Concrete....NOOOOOOO! If I'm hiking it needs to be dirt, gravel, grass, etc. No wonder CA is broke. That should have been gravel at most if improved with a designated path. Just what's in that stretch is easily $5k and I'm sure it's more than 1/4 mile. That's probably a $300-500k trail. If longer substantially more.

Not a diss, but if I'm hiking I'm hiking. This is hiking in snow just this past January. That's not even that much snow either for that time of the year. 1-2' short.


Lava Lake just north of Big Sky, MT. End of the hike during the summer. I wouldn't advise it in the winter....


278   Onvacation   2024 Apr 7, 8:15pm  

WookieMan says

onder CA is broke. That should have been gravel at most if improved with a designated path. Just what's in that stretch is easily $5k and I'm sure it's more than 1/4 mile. That's probably a $300-500k trail. If longer substantially more.

this is an overlook trail that circles the mountain just below the summit. This .2 mile (less than ,25) section is paved so that wheel chair bound people can take in the view. The paved section was the only place that still had snow after last weeks dump, which is highly unusual to have snow in April. The snow was actually down to street level in VALLEJO a couple of days ago.

Global warming kaput!
279   WookieMan   2024 Apr 7, 8:47pm  

Onvacation says

This .2 mile (less than ,25) section is paved so that wheel chair bound people can take in the view.

Well that's not hiking... that's rolling. lol. Sarcasm.

We went to Palm Springs one year and they got 2' of snow on that tram tourist trap mountain, Mount San Jacinto. People were acting like they didn't know what to do. We brought our winter jackets and enjoyed.



From Joshua Tree to the East. Holy fucking wind. Sustained 40-50mph.



Fun trip. Wife is headed out there next week. I'm begging to tag along, but it's work for her. She doesn't want her trophy husband to tag along ;) I'd love to get out there and golf. Grab a car and let her do her thing. $12 flight.... oh well. We had kids.
280   Onvacation   2024 Jun 2, 11:49am  

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