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PeopleUnited says

Don’t believe some fake photos from conspiracy flakes

New conspiracy theory that just popped into my head.

What if this new "Tiffany Dover" is actually a con artist pretending to be Tiffany. She made up a good story, forged some documents, and got close to the right reporter. After they aired the interview if they said that the woman was a fraud and not the real Tiffany we would be right back to "Where's Tiffany Dover?"

I think new Tiffany should write a book about her life since the jab. I would read it.

Onvacation says

PeopleUnited says

Don’t believe some fake photos from conspiracy flakes

New conspiracy theory that just popped into my head.

What if this new "Tiffany Dover" is actually a con artist pretending to be Tiffany. She made up a good story, forged some documents, and got close to the right reporter. After they aired the interview if they said that the woman was a fraud and not the real Tiffany we would be right back to "Where's Tiffany Dover?"

I think new Tiffany should write a book about her life since the jab. I would read it.

Has anybody considered the simpler explanation?

She passed out on camera, this made people suspicious of the vaccine, and then when people started claiming (without evidence) she was dead, she was told to go silent and was paid to do so. So people for years were claiming she was dead, when she wasn't, then she pops up demonstrating that anybody that questioned the safety of the toxxine as being nutcases.

Although the propagandists lie, and are "wrong" all the time, and I mean ALL time time, the people on the other side of this, can't afford to be wrong. When the OTHER side is incorrect, it's used as proof as to the need to pay attention to "the narrative".

joshuatrio says

I'd love to hear more on your theory about the rapture... I'd also like to know how propaganda sellers would be able to predict/pre-empt a rapture, if no one knows when it could happen except for God Himself.

I appreciate your interest. Answered in another thread.
https://patrick.net/post/1378973/2023-04-02-the-rapture-thread

richwicks says

Has anybody considered the simpler explanation?

She passed out on camera, this made people suspicious of the vaccine, and then when people started claiming (without evidence) she was dead, she was told to go silent and was paid to do so. So people for years were claiming she was dead, when she wasn't, then she pops up demonstrating that anybody that questioned the safety of the toxxine as being nutcases.

That’s almost exactly what I said in post 378
PeopleUnited says

2. It is so obvious that she is not dead that the nBC hit piece on antivaxxers was the obvious result. When antivaxxers make up stories about living people calling them dead it just gives the vax pushers ammunition to discredit everything (including all the real victims) that vaccine truth tellers are sharing.
3. The Tiffany Dover is dead hoax makes us look just like the other people pushing a false narrative.

Onvacation says

New conspiracy theory that just popped into my head.

Yes a lot of people would buy that book. But I get the impression from Tiffany that she is not a gifted writer, speaker or nurse. She just happened to faint on camera or you never would have known or cared who she was. So I guess I’ll pass on the Tiffany Dover biography. But I can understand why so many are enamored with this train wreck of a story.

I’d rather read the story of someone who was pro vaxx and changed their mind.

PeopleUnited says

The Tiffany Dover is dead hoax

This is theOnvacation says

Where is Tiffany Dover?

thread.

She was the poster nurse of the early vaxxers held out as a symbol of doing the right thing. She got jabbed, fainted on live TV, and then disappeared for two years. Now she's back.

I guess this thread has morphed into the "Where was Tiffany Dover" thread.

PeopleUnited says

I’ll pass on the Tiffany Dover biography.

yeah prob'ly boring

PeopleUnited says

Check your eyesight brother, it’s the same lady in the NBC interview

I never watched it, don't follow propaganda. You do realize everyone backing up your version has a LONG history of pushing propaganda. You're on the same side as the people who perpetrated the Scamdemic and the farce in Ukraine. The only source I've read that puts out a believable Dover is alive take, is the one I linked.

I'd be willing to entertain seriously injured, by shot, but that's the only other reasonable explanation. No one just stops their entire life after passing out on national television unless something bad happened. Death and serious injury are the only plausible explanations.

The check who took that shot is pale as a fucking ghost, and definitely white. The chick you are pushing is not tan bro.

And you've literally shifted the measuring stick from the video and pics we all saw from 2020, when there was no reason to fake anything about her, to the interview, where there are TONS of reasons to lie. Your sources are what sink you.

Tiffany is a tot punkt. Her astral body is somewhere around Sirius by this time.

The NBC Tiffany is not Tiffany Dover.

NuttBoxer says

You're on the same side as the people who perpetrated the Scamdemic and the farce in Ukraine

Wow. That’s harsh shaming. But you know what it’s not like that at all. I’m on your side. I just don’t need a fake death to know that the jabs are dangerous. Tiffany fainted, but deal. Tiffany dropped off the radar since December 2020, that’s about a 28 month hiatus. Big deal.

But the false narrative of her untimely death, there is just no evidence. And lies are a big deal. I won’t knowingly perpetuate that kind of false narrative. And neither should you. It dishonors and insults every person who took the jab and got injured or killed and the media refuses to hear their stories. And if Tiffany is dead, her family And friends and coworkers should be ashamed of their silence. And that is the main reason I am certain Tiffany lives, not one single person she knows has stepped forward to tell about her death.

The_Deplorable says

The NBC Tiffany is not Tiffany Dover.

It’s totally the same chick right down to the eye color, a perfect match. Blow up/zoom in on the eyes and they are the same blue. Masked Tiffany is not wearing makeup and has her natural hair color and is a bit younger and doesn’t have those terrible waxed eyebrows but it is the same chick.

PeopleUnited says

The NBC Tiffany is not Tiffany Dover.

What does it matter?

We're living in a society where a sex trafficker named Jeffrey Epstein was murdered by our government (or perhaps whisked off to Tel-Aviv) where our intelligence agencies covered for him, and for which none of his clients were prosecuted?

If Dover is a fake, that's small potatoes.

PeopleUnited says

Tiffany lives, not one single person she knows has stepped forward to tell about her death.

Not one of her family has stepped up. She is married and has a twelve year old son.



https://conandaily.com/2021/08/03/tiffany-dover-biography-13-things-about-chattanooga-tennessee-nurse/

Tiffany has walked into the tunnel of white light. She is a will o' the wisp.

"The NBC Tiffany is not Tiffany Dover."

PeopleUnited says

"It’s totally the same chick right down to the eye color, a perfect match. Blow up/zoom in on the eyes and they are the same blue."

Actually No. The eyes and the nose are different. The NBC Tiffany is a fake.

The_Deplorable says

"The NBC Tiffany is not Tiffany Dover."

PeopleUnited says

"It’s totally the same chick right down to the eye color, a perfect match. Blow up/zoom in on the eyes and they are the same blue."

Actually No. The eyes and the nose are different. The NBC Tiffany is a fake.

Yeah, I'm going to have to say they are totally different people. Look at the eye lids, eye brows, eye shape. I'm not seeing it.

PeopleUnited says

Wow. That’s harsh shaming. But you know what it’s not like that at all.

I'm not saying that's who you are. That's what propaganda does. You find the right piece for the right person, and they completely go against who they are in support of some false narrative. When I do a web search, even using the uncensored engines I use, I still see almost every link goes to something saying Tiffany didn't die. NBC did a nothing piece claiming to disprove her death without a shred of evidence, or any eye witness testimony.

I'm not exaggerating here. Look at who's saying she's fine, not just today, but two years ago.

Facial recognition seems to be a variable skill. Not everybody can see the difference between close approximates. Some will see them if you point them out to specific attention, some never will.

I don't know what percentage of the populations does or does not have this capability. I gather it is useful to the political con artists that there is a reliable percentage of the population with varying levels of prosopagnosia. They'll never see the mask or the fakes or the imposters.

Ceffer says

I don't know what percentage of the populations does or does not have this capability. I gather it is useful to the political con artists that there is a reliable percentage of the population with varying levels of prosopagnosia. They'll never see the mask or the fakes or the imposters.

I have poor facial recognition, I would say it borders on facial blindness. We have met before, if I were to see you on the street today, I would not recognize you.

I make up for it with a good bullshit detector and high suspicion of either "side". When people get out of the "media narrative" and realize that what is called mainstream news is nothing but propaganda, they tend to overcompensate and will embrace any idea outside of that realm - so you end up people talking about HAARP, adrenochrome, the ISS being fake, holograms on 9/11, a plane NOT hitting the Pentagon, "directed energy weapons" to destroy the world trade centers, and other things which I consider nonsense.

I know how this stuff works, the fucking intelligence agencies get involved and spin up nonsense, create false rabbit holes. People MUST be cautious about repeating the bullshit of the intelligence agencies. You have to be JUST as careful about accepting what you hear in mainstream news, because it's not always false, as you are about accepting things that are outside of it.

You see, our rulers don't care what nonsense we believe, all they care is we don't know the truth. They are the princes of lies and they want us to believe lies.

NuttBoxer says

I never watched it, don't follow propaganda.

BS. Practically everything is propaganda today.

When you can provide one shred of evidence that Tiffany Dover from the shot propaganda footage in December 2020 is dead you will be a reporter. Until then you are just repeating propaganda that suits your narrative. The truth is that neither of us know Tiffany, nor do we know anyone who does know her. So that makes it quite a challenge to verify any part of her story.

Ceffer says

Facial recognition seems to be a variable skill.

So does BS detection. When someone dies they have a funeral, their family mourns the loss and speaks about it in remembrance.

That didn’t happen with Tiffany. Probably because she didn’t die, yet.

richwicks says

our rulers don't care what nonsense we believe, all they care is we don't know the truth. They are the princes of lies and they want us to believe lies.

That’s pretty much exactly how the Bible describes Satan and his minions. Your words are absolutely true.

Also, these satanic globalist “rulers” seek to confuse and divide us so that we cannot unite against their tyranny.

PeopleUnited says

BS. Practically everything is propaganda today.

See my list of news sources, sounds like you could use some better places for information.

PeopleUnited says

So does BS detection. When someone dies they have a funeral, their family mourns the loss and speaks about it in remembrance.

That didn’t happen with Tiffany. Probably because she didn’t die, yet.

You have yet to reply to my question on the fake crash by the White House on 9/11. You rant against government conspiracies here as much as most of us do, yet in this case deny the government has the ability to silence witnesses, and cover-up one person's death. #ClintonBodyCount disagrees with you. You also have failed to provide a single credible source that Tiffany is alive. I've provided the most believable link in that respect, not you.

The logic holes here are typical of someone who has fully subscribed to propaganda.

Crooked elbow Tiffany. Was she at Sandy Hill?

PeopleUnited says

Also, these satanic globalist “rulers” seek to confuse and divide us so that we cannot unite against their tyranny.

Oh, at least you recognize we are under tyrannical rule.

richwicks says

Oh, at least you recognize we are under tyrannical rule.

Yes, the shadow government is tyrannical, that is why we need the legitimate government to hold them accountable and prevent their tyranny from achieving full control.

Ceffer says

Crooked elbow Tiffany. Was she at Sandy Hill?

Can we find the death records cited in this post?

NuttBoxer says

You also have failed to provide a single credible source that Tiffany is alive.

How about a witness of her death? Really out of all her friends and family not even two have stepped forward to mourn their loss?

Let’s see/hear the witnesses. All you have provided is propaganda.

You don't have one, thanks for confirming. All I've provided is the only credible evidence she could be alive. You're so balls deep in your delusion, you've become an apologist for the scamdemic. Which also means you don't worship God in this area of your life, you worship man, because you value your ego and man's lies over God's truth.

You know hypocrisy is the biggest reason people don't become Christians.

I would think it would be SUPER easy to prove someone is still alive. Proving they died when it's a government coverup...

But maybe I'm wrong and you can justify to us the Warren Report, the 9/11 Commission, and the Scamdemic. Because according to you when someone dies, people NEVER EVER lie about that.

Tiffany has been atomized back to the stellar primordium.

Ceffer says

Tiffany has been atomized back to the stellar primordium.

Does the Capercorn One funeral home offer a new package we’re not aware of?

NuttBoxer says

You don't have one, thanks for confirming.

Um, Tiffany was on TV, posted online updates oh and she had no funeral, she was too busy you know, living.

When you pull your head out of the propaganda you will see a bunch a vaxxidiots are doing just fine. Just because the scamdemic happened, and a bunch of idiots took a dangerous and deleterious vaxx, doesn’t mean every piece of propaganda about alleged vaxx deaths is true. There are plenty, plenty of vax deaths and injuries, can we talk about them? There is no reason to invent a fake death just to support your narratives. It’s not unreasonable to ask where the family is if she is dead? She is a vaxhole, and you are giving her more of a voice every time you falsely claim she is dead.

Tiffany is deader than the original Biden.

On a scale of one to ten, where one is a little dead and ten is completely dead, Tiffany is a ten.

Ceffer says

On a scale of one to ten, where one is a little dead and ten is completely dead, Tiffany is a ten.

Then it should be easy to prove. Her poor kids and husband must have mourned her death. Her mom too.

Oh, no you say there is no record of a funeral or her death? No body, no grave. Wow. Yeah she sure sounds pretty dead.
https://www.local3news.com/local-news/update-nbc-reporter-talks-in-exclusive-interview-with-tiffany-dover/article_4b0974c2-d7d5-11ed-979f-af2133acdfde.html
https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/misinformation/tiffany-dover-conspiracy-theorists-silence-rcna69401
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/truthers-tiffany-dover-is-dead/id1618512442

This is complete bullshit. You dismiss TV evidence of her death, but it's ok to use know government propaganda networks to prove she's alive. You insist on real people to prove she's dead, but have none to prove she's alive. The only people who push your viewpoint in the news are known liars and propaganda outlets. Doesn't that tell you anything! Find a single reliable, independent media source to back up your claims. Like I did.

Just to clarify for anyone following this, despite believing Tiffany is likely dead, I've provided the only reliable proof she might be alive. PeopleUnited has relied entirely on sources that pushed the scamdemic, and never took the time to perform the simple search I did to find real research into this topic.

We all know your opinion, prove it with reliable sources. If you refuse, you are proving yourself sold to your propaganda, your ego preservation, and furthering lies and darkness in this world. Nice example for a Christian...

PeopleUnited says

richwicks says

Oh, at least you recognize we are under tyrannical rule.

Yes, the shadow government is tyrannical, that is why we need the legitimate government to hold them accountable and prevent their tyranny from achieving full control.

I'm in full agreement, but they won't do it. In fact, they do everything they can possibly do to resist it.

The ONLY reason Obama was elected was he promised to end all the stupid wars that George W. Bush got us into, but he instead accelerated it, and the left that was PROPERLY bitching and moaning about the Iraq war, were suddenly onboard for more war.

I expected Nancy Pelosi to impeach Bush, but apparently, they're best friends.

When somebody DID step up to challenge the swamp, the Deep State, both parties rallied around him to resist it.

Our "legitimate"(?) government hasn't done a goddamned positive thing for this nation in 30 years, maybe longer. They got rid of Glass Stegal, they bailed out the banks, they refused to prosecute anybody involved with mortgage fraud, they started wars, they reintroduced racism as a political issue which was all but gone in the 1990s, they incite violence and hatred, they lie and gaslight CONSTANTLY, they engage in insider trading, etc, etc, etc.

So, ask yourself, is this a legitimate government at all, or just a bunch of flunkies that work for the Deep State and their reward for doing this, is being above the law?



I'm past the illusion stage. The mask is off. People are talking about Hunter Biden's pending indictment. Yeah, that COULD happen, but I doubt it, and even if it does, watch him walk. 800 protesters in jail after being framed by the FIB.

How do you appeal to the government after 30 years of empty promises, and and probably about 15 years of "fuck you fuck you fuck you, plebeians"? I can literally count less than 10 people in Congress that I actually have ANY respect for, and I can't even trust them. Dan Crenshaw seemed reasonable to me at one point, even John McCain did. They're just scum. Even AOC at one point did, I mean, for about 5 minutes, sure, she's a dumb bartender, that's a step up for the Neocon Democrat scumbag that she replaced.

The reason I preferred Trump is NOT because I like him, I consider him a big buffoon mostly, which is a step up for anything I've seen in the last 30 years. At least he wasn't one of them, and he surprised me, at least he didn't start another war. Every war we've been in, has been a complete waste of money, we've gotten NOTHING out of it.