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The_Deplorable says

"The NBC Tiffany is not Tiffany Dover."

PeopleUnited says

"It’s totally the same chick right down to the eye color, a perfect match. Blow up/zoom in on the eyes and they are the same blue."

Actually No. The eyes and the nose are different. The NBC Tiffany is a fake.

Yeah, I'm going to have to say they are totally different people. Look at the eye lids, eye brows, eye shape. I'm not seeing it.

PeopleUnited says

Wow. That’s harsh shaming. But you know what it’s not like that at all.

I'm not saying that's who you are. That's what propaganda does. You find the right piece for the right person, and they completely go against who they are in support of some false narrative. When I do a web search, even using the uncensored engines I use, I still see almost every link goes to something saying Tiffany didn't die. NBC did a nothing piece claiming to disprove her death without a shred of evidence, or any eye witness testimony.

I'm not exaggerating here. Look at who's saying she's fine, not just today, but two years ago.

Facial recognition seems to be a variable skill. Not everybody can see the difference between close approximates. Some will see them if you point them out to specific attention, some never will.

I don't know what percentage of the populations does or does not have this capability. I gather it is useful to the political con artists that there is a reliable percentage of the population with varying levels of prosopagnosia. They'll never see the mask or the fakes or the imposters.

Ceffer says

I don't know what percentage of the populations does or does not have this capability. I gather it is useful to the political con artists that there is a reliable percentage of the population with varying levels of prosopagnosia. They'll never see the mask or the fakes or the imposters.

I have poor facial recognition, I would say it borders on facial blindness. We have met before, if I were to see you on the street today, I would not recognize you.

I make up for it with a good bullshit detector and high suspicion of either "side". When people get out of the "media narrative" and realize that what is called mainstream news is nothing but propaganda, they tend to overcompensate and will embrace any idea outside of that realm - so you end up people talking about HAARP, adrenochrome, the ISS being fake, holograms on 9/11, a plane NOT hitting the Pentagon, "directed energy weapons" to destroy the world trade centers, and other things which I consider nonsense.

I know how this stuff works, the fucking intelligence agencies get involved and spin up nonsense, create false rabbit holes. People MUST be cautious about repeating the bullshit of the intelligence agencies. You have to be JUST as careful about accepting what you hear in mainstream news, because it's not always false, as you are about accepting things that are outside of it.

You see, our rulers don't care what nonsense we believe, all they care is we don't know the truth. They are the princes of lies and they want us to believe lies.

NuttBoxer says

I never watched it, don't follow propaganda.

BS. Practically everything is propaganda today.

When you can provide one shred of evidence that Tiffany Dover from the shot propaganda footage in December 2020 is dead you will be a reporter. Until then you are just repeating propaganda that suits your narrative. The truth is that neither of us know Tiffany, nor do we know anyone who does know her. So that makes it quite a challenge to verify any part of her story.

Ceffer says

Facial recognition seems to be a variable skill.

So does BS detection. When someone dies they have a funeral, their family mourns the loss and speaks about it in remembrance.

That didn’t happen with Tiffany. Probably because she didn’t die, yet.

richwicks says

our rulers don't care what nonsense we believe, all they care is we don't know the truth. They are the princes of lies and they want us to believe lies.

That’s pretty much exactly how the Bible describes Satan and his minions. Your words are absolutely true.

Also, these satanic globalist “rulers” seek to confuse and divide us so that we cannot unite against their tyranny.

PeopleUnited says

BS. Practically everything is propaganda today.

See my list of news sources, sounds like you could use some better places for information.

PeopleUnited says

So does BS detection. When someone dies they have a funeral, their family mourns the loss and speaks about it in remembrance.

That didn’t happen with Tiffany. Probably because she didn’t die, yet.

You have yet to reply to my question on the fake crash by the White House on 9/11. You rant against government conspiracies here as much as most of us do, yet in this case deny the government has the ability to silence witnesses, and cover-up one person's death. #ClintonBodyCount disagrees with you. You also have failed to provide a single credible source that Tiffany is alive. I've provided the most believable link in that respect, not you.

The logic holes here are typical of someone who has fully subscribed to propaganda.

Crooked elbow Tiffany. Was she at Sandy Hill?

PeopleUnited says

Also, these satanic globalist “rulers” seek to confuse and divide us so that we cannot unite against their tyranny.

Oh, at least you recognize we are under tyrannical rule.

richwicks says

Oh, at least you recognize we are under tyrannical rule.

Yes, the shadow government is tyrannical, that is why we need the legitimate government to hold them accountable and prevent their tyranny from achieving full control.

Ceffer says

Crooked elbow Tiffany. Was she at Sandy Hill?

Can we find the death records cited in this post?

NuttBoxer says

You also have failed to provide a single credible source that Tiffany is alive.

How about a witness of her death? Really out of all her friends and family not even two have stepped forward to mourn their loss?

Let’s see/hear the witnesses. All you have provided is propaganda.

You don't have one, thanks for confirming. All I've provided is the only credible evidence she could be alive. You're so balls deep in your delusion, you've become an apologist for the scamdemic. Which also means you don't worship God in this area of your life, you worship man, because you value your ego and man's lies over God's truth.

You know hypocrisy is the biggest reason people don't become Christians.

I would think it would be SUPER easy to prove someone is still alive. Proving they died when it's a government coverup...

But maybe I'm wrong and you can justify to us the Warren Report, the 9/11 Commission, and the Scamdemic. Because according to you when someone dies, people NEVER EVER lie about that.

Tiffany has been atomized back to the stellar primordium.

Ceffer says

Tiffany has been atomized back to the stellar primordium.

Does the Capercorn One funeral home offer a new package we’re not aware of?

NuttBoxer says

You don't have one, thanks for confirming.

Um, Tiffany was on TV, posted online updates oh and she had no funeral, she was too busy you know, living.

When you pull your head out of the propaganda you will see a bunch a vaxxidiots are doing just fine. Just because the scamdemic happened, and a bunch of idiots took a dangerous and deleterious vaxx, doesn’t mean every piece of propaganda about alleged vaxx deaths is true. There are plenty, plenty of vax deaths and injuries, can we talk about them? There is no reason to invent a fake death just to support your narratives. It’s not unreasonable to ask where the family is if she is dead? She is a vaxhole, and you are giving her more of a voice every time you falsely claim she is dead.

Tiffany is deader than the original Biden.

On a scale of one to ten, where one is a little dead and ten is completely dead, Tiffany is a ten.

Ceffer says

On a scale of one to ten, where one is a little dead and ten is completely dead, Tiffany is a ten.

Then it should be easy to prove. Her poor kids and husband must have mourned her death. Her mom too.

Oh, no you say there is no record of a funeral or her death? No body, no grave. Wow. Yeah she sure sounds pretty dead.
https://www.local3news.com/local-news/update-nbc-reporter-talks-in-exclusive-interview-with-tiffany-dover/article_4b0974c2-d7d5-11ed-979f-af2133acdfde.html
https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/misinformation/tiffany-dover-conspiracy-theorists-silence-rcna69401
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/truthers-tiffany-dover-is-dead/id1618512442

This is complete bullshit. You dismiss TV evidence of her death, but it's ok to use know government propaganda networks to prove she's alive. You insist on real people to prove she's dead, but have none to prove she's alive. The only people who push your viewpoint in the news are known liars and propaganda outlets. Doesn't that tell you anything! Find a single reliable, independent media source to back up your claims. Like I did.

Just to clarify for anyone following this, despite believing Tiffany is likely dead, I've provided the only reliable proof she might be alive. PeopleUnited has relied entirely on sources that pushed the scamdemic, and never took the time to perform the simple search I did to find real research into this topic.

We all know your opinion, prove it with reliable sources. If you refuse, you are proving yourself sold to your propaganda, your ego preservation, and furthering lies and darkness in this world. Nice example for a Christian...

PeopleUnited says

richwicks says

Oh, at least you recognize we are under tyrannical rule.

Yes, the shadow government is tyrannical, that is why we need the legitimate government to hold them accountable and prevent their tyranny from achieving full control.

I'm in full agreement, but they won't do it. In fact, they do everything they can possibly do to resist it.

The ONLY reason Obama was elected was he promised to end all the stupid wars that George W. Bush got us into, but he instead accelerated it, and the left that was PROPERLY bitching and moaning about the Iraq war, were suddenly onboard for more war.

I expected Nancy Pelosi to impeach Bush, but apparently, they're best friends.

When somebody DID step up to challenge the swamp, the Deep State, both parties rallied around him to resist it.

Our "legitimate"(?) government hasn't done a goddamned positive thing for this nation in 30 years, maybe longer. They got rid of Glass Stegal, they bailed out the banks, they refused to prosecute anybody involved with mortgage fraud, they started wars, they reintroduced racism as a political issue which was all but gone in the 1990s, they incite violence and hatred, they lie and gaslight CONSTANTLY, they engage in insider trading, etc, etc, etc.

So, ask yourself, is this a legitimate government at all, or just a bunch of flunkies that work for the Deep State and their reward for doing this, is being above the law?



I'm past the illusion stage. The mask is off. People are talking about Hunter Biden's pending indictment. Yeah, that COULD happen, but I doubt it, and even if it does, watch him walk. 800 protesters in jail after being framed by the FIB.

How do you appeal to the government after 30 years of empty promises, and and probably about 15 years of "fuck you fuck you fuck you, plebeians"? I can literally count less than 10 people in Congress that I actually have ANY respect for, and I can't even trust them. Dan Crenshaw seemed reasonable to me at one point, even John McCain did. They're just scum. Even AOC at one point did, I mean, for about 5 minutes, sure, she's a dumb bartender, that's a step up for the Neocon Democrat scumbag that she replaced.

The reason I preferred Trump is NOT because I like him, I consider him a big buffoon mostly, which is a step up for anything I've seen in the last 30 years. At least he wasn't one of them, and he surprised me, at least he didn't start another war. Every war we've been in, has been a complete waste of money, we've gotten NOTHING out of it.

They are selling Tiffany Burgers at McDonalds. 'Nuff said.

Tiffany is so dead she is 'Soylent Tiffany'.

richwicks says

Our "legitimate"(?) government hasn't done a goddamned positive thing for this nation in 30 years, maybe longer.

60 years, at least.

They killed Kennedy and everything our government has done since has been for special interest and not the common man.

NuttBoxer says

Find a single reliable, independent media source to back up your claims. Like I did.

Your source? For posterity sake? Let’s post it once more just so everyone can see what your idea of a non-propaganda site looks like.

In the meantime nobody who actually knows Tiffany has stepped forward to mourn her non-existent death.

In fact her children, coworkers and Tiffany herself have all appeared in one way or another to “prove “ that Tiffany lives. How do we know she is alive? She told us.

richwicks says

The reason I preferred Trump is NOT because I like him, I consider him a big buffoon mostly, which is a step up for anything I've seen in the last 30 years. At least he wasn't one of them, and he surprised me, at least he didn't start another war. Every war we've been in, has been a complete waste of money, we've gotten NOTHING out of it.

Same.

Onvacation says

richwicks says

Our "legitimate"(?) government hasn't done a goddamned positive thing for this nation in 30 years, maybe longer.

60 years, at least.

They killed Kennedy and everything our government has done since has been for special interest and not the common man.

The prosecuted and convicted around 1000 people involved in the Saving's and Loan Scandal in the 1980's. They let Neil Bush walk, but at least they did SOMETHING.

With Bernie Madoff he had the whistle blown on him twice, but when he ripped off some powerful Jewish interests, only THEN was he prosecuted.

We had extensive mortgage fraud which contributed to the housing boom and bust, nobody prosecuted. Sam Bankman Fraud is going to walk, I guarantee it. Our president now is selling access to the office, he's OPENLY accepting bribes.

PeopleUnited says

richwicks says

The reason I preferred Trump is NOT because I like him, I consider him a big buffoon mostly, which is a step up for anything I've seen in the last 30 years. At least he wasn't one of them, and he surprised me, at least he didn't start another war. Every war we've been in, has been a complete waste of money, we've gotten NOTHING out of it.

Same.

Well, we're on the same page finally, or nearly.

Where we disagree is that I don't believe there's any political solution at this point.

I realize blowing up a building won't do anything and if that happens, the first group I'd suspect would be the FIB to demonize people like me that see no solution. They're already doing that to us - they did that with Whitmer's "kidnapping". We're all "white racist supremacists", right? We're the #1 threat to the nation, according to the FIB. Mother fuckers are shameless scum.

Our government is absolute garbage, filled with sociopaths, pedophiles, criminals, murderers, lunatics, liars, nothing else. NOTHING else.

All this incitement to violence by our government, by our "news" media, by our social media is to create division, because it should be EASY to organize against all these assholes and it would be, if not for censorship and propaganda and people's unawareness of just what the government is, and is doing. That's all that prevents it

richwicks says

We're living in a society where a sex trafficker named Jeffrey Epstein was murdered by our government (or perhaps whisked off to Tel-Aviv) where our intelligence agencies covered for him, and for which none of his clients were prosecuted?

And where Hunter Biden can be caught smoking crack, committing sex crimes with minors (including his own relatives), violating gun laws, and selling influence to China and Ukraine.

And the criminal FBI does absolutely nothing about it.

Patrick says

richwicks says

We're living in a society where a sex trafficker named Jeffrey Epstein was murdered by our government (or perhaps whisked off to Tel-Aviv) where our intelligence agencies covered for him, and for which none of his clients were prosecuted?

And where Hunter Biden can be caught smoking crack, committing sex crimes with minors (including his own relatives), violating gun laws, and selling influence to China and Ukraine.

And the criminal FBI does absolutely nothing about it.

Right.

How do you even approach fixing this problem when the government turns a blind eye to BLATANT crimes? Our "government", our mafia, refuses to lift a finger, they don't even care about seeming legitimate, and they are not fucking legitimate.

richwicks says

it should be EASY to organize against all these assholes and it would be, if not for censorship and propaganda and people's unawareness

But the truth is freely available for anyone to see.
Most people don’t care (apathy)
Some people don’t believe it (denial)
The rest don’t seem to know what to do about it (ignorance)

Even some of the collaborators fall into the above categories.

PeopleUnited says

But the truth is freely available for anyone to see.
Most people don’t care (apathy)
Some people don’t believe it (denial)
The rest don’t seem to know what to do about it (ignorance)

Yes, but some people want to know. I'm not trying to reach the cattle. 90% of the population are cattle. I found that out the hard way during "the Pandemic" ® ©

PeopleUnited says

Even some of the collaborators fall into the above categories.

No, most of them do. You think they would be doing this shit knowing what they're going to be doing to their kids and grandchildren?

PeopleUnited says

Your source? For posterity sake? Let’s post it once more just so everyone can see what your idea of a non-propaganda site looks like.

Nope. You've refused to do your due diligence, and that's what I'm taking issue with, not your fundamental argument, the laziness in how you're trying to prove it. If you want to convince us, you'll need a non-lamestream media source, someone who wasn't pushing jabs the last two years, and if you want my link, you'll at least need to search this thread.

I’m not interested in propaganda. The propaganda mill started pushing the narrative that she was dead the moment her video of the fainting was aired. They did not have any evidence of her death and they still don’t. But the lie took on a life of its own to the point where even an appearance on national Tv is dismissed as a body double like some Tom cruise movie. It’s beyond bizarre. Even the right wing is now living in clown world.

richwicks says

I'm not trying to reach the cattle.

A video of a guy in his livingroom in his undershirt talking on a podcast about how the WTC bombing was a false flag perpetrated by the Deep state is not going to inspire confidence in sensible people’s minds. And only sensible people can respond appropriately to a message
So if information is going to be shared it’s best to at least put on a nice shirt!

But even those who learn and accept the truth will need a plan on how to fix things. And it seems like you believe it is beyond fixing, so what is your goal?

Tiffany is doing the backstroke in the vaporous nether realms.

PeopleUnited says

But even those who learn and accept the truth will need a plan on how to fix things

I don't know how to fix things.

I do know that people won't even contemplate on how to fix things, if they don't know things are broken.

PeopleUnited says

And it seems like you believe it is beyond fixing, so what is your goal?

When we started making the Internet in the 1990's, the assumption was that once everybody could talk to one another, that they would and that would be the end of propaganda and central media control.

The mistake we made, as young adults, was that people aren't like us. We did talk to the planet. You have any idea how easy it is to talk to an Iranian, or how easy it ONCE was? When this ability was slowly being taken away by getting dupes to migrate to Facebook and so on, we could see there was censorship to keep people divided.

Nobody listened to us. Even though WE IMPLEMENTED these systems, nobody listened to us.

Maybe you deserve what you get.

It takes at least 10 years before the public realizes what we already know.

It's going to take a decade before the average shithead realizes that the Ukraine war was started by the United States. It will take them 10 years before they realize that the US overthrew it, and this entire conflict was created by the same assholes that lied us into the Iraq War which is over 20 years ago.

PeopleUnited says

Even the right wing is now living in clown world.

True and false are less important than whipping up hysteria. The more hysterical a population is, the less effective their resistance is. I would say they successfully made a large portion of each major "side" hysterical.