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Ceffer says

Tiffany has been atomized back to the stellar primordium.

Does the Capercorn One funeral home offer a new package we’re not aware of?

NuttBoxer says

You don't have one, thanks for confirming.

Um, Tiffany was on TV, posted online updates oh and she had no funeral, she was too busy you know, living.

When you pull your head out of the propaganda you will see a bunch a vaxxidiots are doing just fine. Just because the scamdemic happened, and a bunch of idiots took a dangerous and deleterious vaxx, doesn’t mean every piece of propaganda about alleged vaxx deaths is true. There are plenty, plenty of vax deaths and injuries, can we talk about them? There is no reason to invent a fake death just to support your narratives. It’s not unreasonable to ask where the family is if she is dead? She is a vaxhole, and you are giving her more of a voice every time you falsely claim she is dead.

Tiffany is deader than the original Biden.

On a scale of one to ten, where one is a little dead and ten is completely dead, Tiffany is a ten.

Ceffer says

On a scale of one to ten, where one is a little dead and ten is completely dead, Tiffany is a ten.

Then it should be easy to prove. Her poor kids and husband must have mourned her death. Her mom too.

Oh, no you say there is no record of a funeral or her death? No body, no grave. Wow. Yeah she sure sounds pretty dead.
https://www.local3news.com/local-news/update-nbc-reporter-talks-in-exclusive-interview-with-tiffany-dover/article_4b0974c2-d7d5-11ed-979f-af2133acdfde.html
https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/misinformation/tiffany-dover-conspiracy-theorists-silence-rcna69401
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/truthers-tiffany-dover-is-dead/id1618512442

This is complete bullshit. You dismiss TV evidence of her death, but it's ok to use know government propaganda networks to prove she's alive. You insist on real people to prove she's dead, but have none to prove she's alive. The only people who push your viewpoint in the news are known liars and propaganda outlets. Doesn't that tell you anything! Find a single reliable, independent media source to back up your claims. Like I did.

Just to clarify for anyone following this, despite believing Tiffany is likely dead, I've provided the only reliable proof she might be alive. PeopleUnited has relied entirely on sources that pushed the scamdemic, and never took the time to perform the simple search I did to find real research into this topic.

We all know your opinion, prove it with reliable sources. If you refuse, you are proving yourself sold to your propaganda, your ego preservation, and furthering lies and darkness in this world. Nice example for a Christian...

PeopleUnited says

richwicks says

Oh, at least you recognize we are under tyrannical rule.

Yes, the shadow government is tyrannical, that is why we need the legitimate government to hold them accountable and prevent their tyranny from achieving full control.

I'm in full agreement, but they won't do it. In fact, they do everything they can possibly do to resist it.

The ONLY reason Obama was elected was he promised to end all the stupid wars that George W. Bush got us into, but he instead accelerated it, and the left that was PROPERLY bitching and moaning about the Iraq war, were suddenly onboard for more war.

I expected Nancy Pelosi to impeach Bush, but apparently, they're best friends.

When somebody DID step up to challenge the swamp, the Deep State, both parties rallied around him to resist it.

Our "legitimate"(?) government hasn't done a goddamned positive thing for this nation in 30 years, maybe longer. They got rid of Glass Stegal, they bailed out the banks, they refused to prosecute anybody involved with mortgage fraud, they started wars, they reintroduced racism as a political issue which was all but gone in the 1990s, they incite violence and hatred, they lie and gaslight CONSTANTLY, they engage in insider trading, etc, etc, etc.

So, ask yourself, is this a legitimate government at all, or just a bunch of flunkies that work for the Deep State and their reward for doing this, is being above the law?



I'm past the illusion stage. The mask is off. People are talking about Hunter Biden's pending indictment. Yeah, that COULD happen, but I doubt it, and even if it does, watch him walk. 800 protesters in jail after being framed by the FIB.

How do you appeal to the government after 30 years of empty promises, and and probably about 15 years of "fuck you fuck you fuck you, plebeians"? I can literally count less than 10 people in Congress that I actually have ANY respect for, and I can't even trust them. Dan Crenshaw seemed reasonable to me at one point, even John McCain did. They're just scum. Even AOC at one point did, I mean, for about 5 minutes, sure, she's a dumb bartender, that's a step up for the Neocon Democrat scumbag that she replaced.

The reason I preferred Trump is NOT because I like him, I consider him a big buffoon mostly, which is a step up for anything I've seen in the last 30 years. At least he wasn't one of them, and he surprised me, at least he didn't start another war. Every war we've been in, has been a complete waste of money, we've gotten NOTHING out of it.

They are selling Tiffany Burgers at McDonalds. 'Nuff said.

Tiffany is so dead she is 'Soylent Tiffany'.

richwicks says

Our "legitimate"(?) government hasn't done a goddamned positive thing for this nation in 30 years, maybe longer.

60 years, at least.

They killed Kennedy and everything our government has done since has been for special interest and not the common man.

NuttBoxer says

Find a single reliable, independent media source to back up your claims. Like I did.

Your source? For posterity sake? Let’s post it once more just so everyone can see what your idea of a non-propaganda site looks like.

In the meantime nobody who actually knows Tiffany has stepped forward to mourn her non-existent death.

In fact her children, coworkers and Tiffany herself have all appeared in one way or another to “prove “ that Tiffany lives. How do we know she is alive? She told us.

richwicks says

The reason I preferred Trump is NOT because I like him, I consider him a big buffoon mostly, which is a step up for anything I've seen in the last 30 years. At least he wasn't one of them, and he surprised me, at least he didn't start another war. Every war we've been in, has been a complete waste of money, we've gotten NOTHING out of it.

Same.

Onvacation says

richwicks says

Our "legitimate"(?) government hasn't done a goddamned positive thing for this nation in 30 years, maybe longer.

60 years, at least.

They killed Kennedy and everything our government has done since has been for special interest and not the common man.

The prosecuted and convicted around 1000 people involved in the Saving's and Loan Scandal in the 1980's. They let Neil Bush walk, but at least they did SOMETHING.

With Bernie Madoff he had the whistle blown on him twice, but when he ripped off some powerful Jewish interests, only THEN was he prosecuted.

We had extensive mortgage fraud which contributed to the housing boom and bust, nobody prosecuted. Sam Bankman Fraud is going to walk, I guarantee it. Our president now is selling access to the office, he's OPENLY accepting bribes.

PeopleUnited says

richwicks says

The reason I preferred Trump is NOT because I like him, I consider him a big buffoon mostly, which is a step up for anything I've seen in the last 30 years. At least he wasn't one of them, and he surprised me, at least he didn't start another war. Every war we've been in, has been a complete waste of money, we've gotten NOTHING out of it.

Same.

Well, we're on the same page finally, or nearly.

Where we disagree is that I don't believe there's any political solution at this point.

I realize blowing up a building won't do anything and if that happens, the first group I'd suspect would be the FIB to demonize people like me that see no solution. They're already doing that to us - they did that with Whitmer's "kidnapping". We're all "white racist supremacists", right? We're the #1 threat to the nation, according to the FIB. Mother fuckers are shameless scum.

Our government is absolute garbage, filled with sociopaths, pedophiles, criminals, murderers, lunatics, liars, nothing else. NOTHING else.

All this incitement to violence by our government, by our "news" media, by our social media is to create division, because it should be EASY to organize against all these assholes and it would be, if not for censorship and propaganda and people's unawareness of just what the government is, and is doing. That's all that prevents it

richwicks says

We're living in a society where a sex trafficker named Jeffrey Epstein was murdered by our government (or perhaps whisked off to Tel-Aviv) where our intelligence agencies covered for him, and for which none of his clients were prosecuted?

And where Hunter Biden can be caught smoking crack, committing sex crimes with minors (including his own relatives), violating gun laws, and selling influence to China and Ukraine.

And the criminal FBI does absolutely nothing about it.

Patrick says

richwicks says

We're living in a society where a sex trafficker named Jeffrey Epstein was murdered by our government (or perhaps whisked off to Tel-Aviv) where our intelligence agencies covered for him, and for which none of his clients were prosecuted?

And where Hunter Biden can be caught smoking crack, committing sex crimes with minors (including his own relatives), violating gun laws, and selling influence to China and Ukraine.

And the criminal FBI does absolutely nothing about it.

Right.

How do you even approach fixing this problem when the government turns a blind eye to BLATANT crimes? Our "government", our mafia, refuses to lift a finger, they don't even care about seeming legitimate, and they are not fucking legitimate.

richwicks says

it should be EASY to organize against all these assholes and it would be, if not for censorship and propaganda and people's unawareness

But the truth is freely available for anyone to see.
Most people don’t care (apathy)
Some people don’t believe it (denial)
The rest don’t seem to know what to do about it (ignorance)

Even some of the collaborators fall into the above categories.

PeopleUnited says

But the truth is freely available for anyone to see.
Most people don’t care (apathy)
Some people don’t believe it (denial)
The rest don’t seem to know what to do about it (ignorance)

Yes, but some people want to know. I'm not trying to reach the cattle. 90% of the population are cattle. I found that out the hard way during "the Pandemic" ® ©

PeopleUnited says

Even some of the collaborators fall into the above categories.

No, most of them do. You think they would be doing this shit knowing what they're going to be doing to their kids and grandchildren?

PeopleUnited says

Your source? For posterity sake? Let’s post it once more just so everyone can see what your idea of a non-propaganda site looks like.

Nope. You've refused to do your due diligence, and that's what I'm taking issue with, not your fundamental argument, the laziness in how you're trying to prove it. If you want to convince us, you'll need a non-lamestream media source, someone who wasn't pushing jabs the last two years, and if you want my link, you'll at least need to search this thread.

I’m not interested in propaganda. The propaganda mill started pushing the narrative that she was dead the moment her video of the fainting was aired. They did not have any evidence of her death and they still don’t. But the lie took on a life of its own to the point where even an appearance on national Tv is dismissed as a body double like some Tom cruise movie. It’s beyond bizarre. Even the right wing is now living in clown world.

richwicks says

I'm not trying to reach the cattle.

A video of a guy in his livingroom in his undershirt talking on a podcast about how the WTC bombing was a false flag perpetrated by the Deep state is not going to inspire confidence in sensible people’s minds. And only sensible people can respond appropriately to a message
So if information is going to be shared it’s best to at least put on a nice shirt!

But even those who learn and accept the truth will need a plan on how to fix things. And it seems like you believe it is beyond fixing, so what is your goal?

Tiffany is doing the backstroke in the vaporous nether realms.

PeopleUnited says

But even those who learn and accept the truth will need a plan on how to fix things

I don't know how to fix things.

I do know that people won't even contemplate on how to fix things, if they don't know things are broken.

PeopleUnited says

And it seems like you believe it is beyond fixing, so what is your goal?

When we started making the Internet in the 1990's, the assumption was that once everybody could talk to one another, that they would and that would be the end of propaganda and central media control.

The mistake we made, as young adults, was that people aren't like us. We did talk to the planet. You have any idea how easy it is to talk to an Iranian, or how easy it ONCE was? When this ability was slowly being taken away by getting dupes to migrate to Facebook and so on, we could see there was censorship to keep people divided.

Nobody listened to us. Even though WE IMPLEMENTED these systems, nobody listened to us.

Maybe you deserve what you get.

It takes at least 10 years before the public realizes what we already know.

It's going to take a decade before the average shithead realizes that the Ukraine war was started by the United States. It will take them 10 years before they realize that the US overthrew it, and this entire conflict was created by the same assholes that lied us into the Iraq War which is over 20 years ago.

PeopleUnited says

Even the right wing is now living in clown world.

True and false are less important than whipping up hysteria. The more hysterical a population is, the less effective their resistance is. I would say they successfully made a large portion of each major "side" hysterical.

PeopleUnited says

I’m not interested in propaganda. The propaganda mill started pushing the narrative that she was dead the moment her video of the fainting was aired. They did not have any evidence of her death and they still don’t. But the lie took on a life of its own to the point where even an appearance on national Tv is dismissed as a body double like some Tom cruise movie. It’s beyond bizarre. Even the right wing is now living in clown world.

It doesn't matter in this case. If she's alive, then something else very consequential happened which led to a whole coverup, got her fired and from her job and paid off not to talk about it and disappear for a while from the public limelight. People faint all the time, even on simple blood draws, there is no rhyme or reason for what followed. At the minimum she got severely maimed, and they shut her up until they could do all they can do to send her on the road to partial recovery, and wait long enough until she doesn't seem maimed anymore, so they can let he back into the spotlight.

Tiffany argued with St. Peter at the Pearly Gates, and was fined and remanded to Purgatory for ten thousand years.

Ceffer says

Tiffany argued with St. Peter at the Pearly Gates, and was fined and remanded to Purgatory for ten thousand years.

Link? Or you're making stuff up.

In the beginning Tiffany was rolled out as the poster girl of getting vaxxed. After the jab she fainted at the podium mid speech. She explained it away and disappeared for a couple of years without another word.

Still waiting for her book or at least a reason for going public after 2 1/2 years of silence.

Tiffany's ethereal essence was seen wrapped around the tendrils of the rosy dawn.

Tiffany's only appearances now days are at Madam La Rou's House of Seances.

PeopleUnited says

I’m not interested in propaganda. The propaganda mill started pushing the narrative that she was dead the moment her video of the fainting was aired. They did not have any evidence of her death and they still don’t. But the lie took on a life of its own to the point where even an appearance on national Tv is dismissed as a body double like some Tom cruise movie. It’s beyond bizarre. Even the right wing is now living in clown world.

There's no false paradigm party affiliation to blame this one on. It's spans both parties, and mostly comes from those of us who stopped voting decades ago. The foundation is critical thought. For you to dismiss someone's complete and totally unexplained disappearance for over two years, coupled with them only resurfacing after the Damar Hamlin debacle, and not delve any deeper shows a level of dissociation I only see in propaganda believers.

Your entirely opinion based, lamestream media fed viewpoint requires agreement with known liars and sociopaths who have pushed the scamdemic for the past two years. It requires that you yourself subscribe to the idea that it's impossible someone would ever be killed on Live TV by accident/arrogance. That government coverups are fantasy. That people never get paid off or accept bribes to lie about death or cause of death. Despite all the examples.

You wanna spout opinion go ahead. But what kind of jackasses would we be to listen to you and your sources without thinking, or doing our own research?

You've failed to prove she's alive. You've failed to search this thread. You've failed to provide a non-biased source. The more you rant on this, the more you lie to us, and worse, to yourself.

NuttBoxer says

Tiffany's only appearances now days are at Madam La Rou's House of Seances.

They channelled Tiffany, and the medium got a vaccine syringe in the eye.

NuttBoxer says

You've failed to prove she's alive.

Let's pretend Tiffany never died and the woman claiming to be her really is her.

It doesn't prove that the vax is safe and effective and we're all conspiracy theorists for wanting to know what happened to the poster girl of early experimental biologic agent injections.

The question now is, Where WAS Tiffany Dover? Assuming she's still alive.

Onvacation says

The question now is, Where WAS Tiffany Dover? Assuming she's still alive.

If she is, apparently signing on property in the south according to the one source I found believable. But if we're gonna base it on documents, those are not too hard to forge ;)

Ceffer says

NuttBoxer says

Tiffany's only appearances now days are at Madam La Rou's House of Seances.

They channelled Tiffany, and the medium got a vaccine syringe in the eye.

Bet she didn't see that coming.

I heard if you stare at a mirror and say "Fainting Tiffany" ten times, she appears and injects you with the shot, then you both pass out and die.

NuttBoxer says

I heard if you stare at a mirror and say "Fainting Tiffany" ten times, she appears and injects you with the shot, then you both pass out and die.

In Tiffany's purgatory she's forced to watch her body double rise to fame. The interview was just the beginning. Next a book deal, then a Lifetime special.

Fake Tiffany has already signed up with PornHub to do vaccine theme related porn.

richwicks says

It's going to take a decade before the average shithead realizes that the Ukraine war was started by the United States.

Which is why, as horrible as it is that this war is going on, it doesn’t matter because it is not going to cause anyone to wake up before it is too late. Might as well talk about something that can be changed.

Your eternal destiny, for example has not been settled.

NuttBoxer says

Your entirely opinion based, lamestream media fed viewpoint requires agreement with known liars and sociopaths who have pushed the scamdemic for the past two years. It requires that you yourself subscribe to the idea that it's impossible someone would ever be killed on Live TV by accident/arrogance. That government coverups are fantasy. That people never get paid off or accept bribes to lie about death or cause of death. Despite all the examples.

You wanna spout opinion go ahead. But what kind of jackasses would we be to listen to you and your sources without thinking, or doing our own research?

You've failed to prove she's alive. You've failed to search this thread. You've failed to provide a non-biased source.

Do you know anyone who has died in the past 10 years. I do, and every single one of them had an online obituary and funeral home memorial site. Their deaths, were not anonymous. They are well known and searchable, even to this day. I’m not trying to convince anyone, everyone here has already chosen a side. But I cannot sit idly by while and not call BS when the vaccine skeptics push a lie that only hurts their own cause. Believe she is dead if you want, if that is what you believe. One day soon we will all know the truth that Tiffany is just a vaxhole that fainted and then propaganda artists created a false narrative to gain clicks on their propaganda site. “Dead” Tiffany is just another click bait propaganda piece, and there is zero proof that she died.

Her fainting was an embarrassment and it stands to reason that the idiot vax pushers would do their best to keep her out of the limelight. A good number of people who saw that video and were already “vax hesitant “ would clearly be deterred by what they saw, so best to just sweep it all under the rug.

Don’t listen to me though, I’m just some guy who doesn’t believe someone has died unless two witnesses identify the deceased. Yeah, I know that is so unreasonable of me, to you know, require proof.

NuttBoxer says

Onvacation says

The question now is, Where WAS Tiffany Dover? Assuming she's still alive.

If she is, apparently signing on property in the south according to the one source I found believable. But if we're gonna base it on documents, those are not too hard to forge ;)

Now you are starting to sound reasonable. The whole thing is basically a non starter, none of us here knew her before the televised faint, nor are we likely to see her ever in real life. So everything we know about her we take on faith. I trust the lack of evidence of her death to mean that she didn’t die. Plus, the person on NBC interview matches photos that are labeled as images of Tiffany on other independent sites. And she sounds like a stupid nurse to me, so I find the story to be plausible that she just was cowed into silence until the recent interview, plus she seems to value her privacy and generally is afraid of all the unwanted attention she has gotten.

Add to that the fact that all the sites I have read that claim she is dead also lack proof, and are varying degrees less credible than Alex Jones propaganda site.

I want to believe, but I need proof in this case. There are few things more ridiculous than claiming that a living person is dead. So I require proof. The fact that there is no proof is quite telling.