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34   richwicks   2021 May 27, 7:39pm  

BayArea says
I agree with everything this fellow says.

Would vote for him if he ran for president.


Haven't you learned from the last presidency? He won't be allowed to change anything.
35   Patrick   2021 May 27, 7:40pm  

Still, it's useful to have truth-tellers in power when almost everyone else in power is corrupt.

I would absolutely vote for Thomas Sowell as well.
36   richwicks   2021 May 27, 8:21pm  

Patrick says
Still, it's useful to have truth-tellers in power when almost everyone else in power is corrupt.

I would absolutely vote for Thomas Sowell as well.


Unless Sowell is willing to die, he won't speak truth if he were president.

Look at the shit that Trump had to deal with? He pointed out that our intelligence agencies were corrupt, our media is propaganda and our enemies (although he softened it by just calling out the "fake news" which is all of it), he demonstrated the DOJ engages in selective prosecution, and that the leadership of both parties suck each other's cocks.

He is a billionaire, and he barely survived it. Sowell won't. He'd be assassinated, Ron Paul openly said if he were elected, he'd be assassinated. Trump had his own security as part of the secret service. There's no fucking areas of our government that is putridly corrupt.

Ideally, we need to aim for a Soviet Union style collapse. It wasn't bloodless, but it largely was. Civil war, that's the wrong enemy - the enemy is our government but few people have the balls to say it, and even fewer have the balls to do something about it - I don't. I don't think there are enough people yet.
40   Robert Sproul   2021 Sep 9, 8:17pm  

Thomas Sowell
@ThomasSowell
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A $100 bill would buy less in 1998 than a $20 bill would buy in the 1960s. This means that anyone who kept his money in a safe over those years would have lost 80 percent of its value, because no safe can keep your money safe from politicians who control the printing presses.
41   🎂 Tenpoundbass   2021 Dec 10, 2:54pm  

HunterTits says


That's my Bass player and it's frustrating.

He once copped to me, that he often doesn't understand issues or questions. And it's something he always struggled with. But he's learned, as long as he takes the exact opposite stance of what someone is saying. Then you wont look stupid trying to agree with what they are saying, when you don't know shit about it. It makes him feel informed to disagree, object or flip what is being said.
42   Robert Sproul   2022 Feb 10, 5:38pm  

"You could run through an impressive list of disasters brought about by people with very high IQs."

~Thomas Sowell
44   Robert Sproul   2022 Jul 9, 10:45am  

In the same vein:
“Many of todays problems are a result of yesterday’s solutions.”

Thomas Sowell
46   Patrick   2022 Aug 24, 6:04pm  

ZipperTits says

New column from Thomas Sowell


Holy cow, he's 92 and still writing!
48   richwicks   2022 Aug 25, 2:31pm  

ZipperTits says

Doubt he uses a computer, for example.


Of course he does. They've been around for a solid 40 years.
49   HeadSet   2022 Aug 25, 3:18pm  

richwicks says

ZipperTits says


Doubt he uses a computer, for example.


Of course he does. They've been around for a solid 40 years.

Mr Sowell could likely school you on the Osborne.
50   Onvacation   2022 Aug 25, 5:14pm  

Stage one thinking
51   Onvacation   2022 Aug 25, 5:25pm  

Not a Luddite
https://www.dispatch.com/story/opinion/cartoons/2016/01/05/thomas-sowell-commentary-modern-technology/23353331007/

Engineers who design computerized products and services seem to have an almost fanatical determination to avoid using plain English. It is understandable when complicated processes require complicated operations. But when the very simplest things are designed with needless complications or murky instructions, that is something else.

For example, like all sorts of other devices, computers and computerized products and services have to be turned on and off. And everybody knows what the words on and off mean. But how often have you seen a computer or a computerized product or service that used the words on or off?

These simple and obvious words are avoided like the plague on many electronic devices — and this is symptomatic of a mindset that creates bigger problems with other operations. It is as if using words that everybody understands is beneath the dignity of a high-tech product.

Often power is substituted for on and all sorts of words or symbols are substituted for off. A laptop computer of mine had an unidentified symbol on the screen, and only after you clicked on that symbol did another symbol appear, with some words indicating where you could turn the computer off.

Designers of many electronic products do not condescend to use words at all. There is just an array of symbols or buttons that you can either guess what they mean or else dig into a thick book of instructions and search for explanations, much like a pioneer trying to find his way in the wilderness.

My cell phone is a classic example. It does not have a single word blemishing its gleaming surface, except for the name of the manufacturer and the name of the phone company. There is ample room for words like on or off but nothing so pedestrian is allowed to upset the design.

For people who spend hours every day talking on their cell phone, no doubt it is easy enough to remember how to turn it on and off. But, those of us who have a life to live, and work to do, cannot spend our time yakking it up with all and sundry. We may keep a cell phone on hand just for emergencies — and months can go by without using it, or a year or more in my case.

But when there is an emergency, that is no time to have to dig into an instruction booklet, in order to do something as simple as making a phone call. Nor are these instruction booklets always models of clarity. Too often they reflect the same mindset as the devices they describe. Plain and simple words are avoided whenever there is some fancy, murky or esoteric word that can be used instead.

All sorts of things are computerized these days, and the same preference for murkiness often prevails in their design.

After I bought a minivan, everything seemed to go well until I found myself running out of gas. After pulling into a filling station, I wanted to open the cover of the fuel tank — and saw nothing among the forest of anonymous control buttons and levers that would open the fuel tank.

There was nothing to do but get out the 300-page instruction book. However, nothing in the table of contents or the index had any such pedestrian word as fuel or gas. Eventually — and it seemed like an eternity at the time — I finally stumbled across something in the instruction book that revealed the secret identity of the lever that opened the fuel tank.

There was ample space on the lever for 4 letters for fuel or 3 letters for gas.

There is a certain newspaper whose outstanding editorials I read every day, usually on my iPad in the morning, since I don’t get the paper edition until evening. At one time, it was equally simple to find the editorials in either edition. In the paper edition, I just opened the editorial page, and on the iPad, I simply clicked on the word editorial and the editorials appeared. But then electronic “improvement” reared its ugly head.

In the new electronic version, all kinds of items are grouped under all kinds of titles — none of these titles including editorials. After plowing through a long list of items, I discovered the new alias for editorials. It was Issues and Insights.

I wish someone would issue some insights to engineers designing computerized products and services.

Thomas Sowell is a senior fellow at Stanford University's Hoover Institution.
52   richwicks   2022 Aug 25, 6:39pm  

Onvacation says


For people who spend hours every day talking on their cell phone, no doubt it is easy enough to remember how to turn it on and off. But, those of us who have a life to live, and work to do, cannot spend our time yakking it up with all and sundry. We may keep a cell phone on hand just for emergencies — and months can go by without using it, or a year or more in my case.


Why would anybody have a cell phone, pay a monthly bill for it, and only use in once ever couple of months?

Onvacation says


Thomas Sowell is a senior fellow at Stanford University's Hoover Institution.


Oh, apparently somebody who is 92 and still has money to burn.

He's living in the past, nearly nobody has a cell phone AND a land line. They have one or the other. He just doesn't realize this.

I've not had a land line in 30 years. I had to have a cell phone, so what was the point of having a land line?

In 2000, Skype was able to make free phone calls all over the United States, during that time, I didn't bother with a phone at all, I just used skype and logged in wherever I was at.

I'm actually considering getting rid of my phone again. I mean, I will have a phone, but no monthly payments, I'll just use wifi. I tend to do that in telegram and google voice anyhow.

I doubt I'll make it to Sowell's age, but if I do, there will be no concept of a "phone" at that point, at least as we have it now.

We really should get rid of them. Call somebody on Telegram/Skype/Google Voice/Whatever and compare the sound quality of that to a phone call. The phones are using ANCIENT technology from the 1980s. uLaw is OK for voice, but it's hardly as nice as just about anything else. People being born today will be looking at "phones" as being antiquated technology in just 20 years - like a 20 year old looks at a CRT television screen. It "works" but, why use that when what we have is so much better?
53   richwicks   2022 Aug 25, 6:55pm  

HeadSet says

richwicks says


ZipperTits says



Doubt he uses a computer, for example.


Of course he does. They've been around for a solid 40 years.


Mr Sowell could likely school you on the Osborne.


The Osborne computer? I'm sure he could!

I've never used one, and I've never even seen one or fired up a simulator of one.

I know people that know NOTHING about computers that own one.
54   stereotomy   2022 Aug 25, 7:05pm  

richwicks says

I've not had a land line in 30 years. I had to have a cell phone, so what was the point of having a land line?

Same as me. The taxes on landlines were more than the cost of the service. Fuck them!

The man is catching on to cellphones, though. Planned obsolescence is getting vicious - as little as 2-3 years. At least landline phones could function perfectly fine for decades.
55   richwicks   2022 Aug 25, 7:14pm  

stereotomy says

richwicks says


I've not had a land line in 30 years. I had to have a cell phone, so what was the point of having a land line?

Same as me. The taxes on landlines were more than the cost of the service. Fuck them!

The man is catching on to cellphones, though. Planned obsolescence is getting vicious - as little as 2-3 years. At least landline phones could function perfectly fine for decades.


The planned obsolescence is coming to an end. They're going to keep pushing it, but we are rapidly approaching the point where we cannot improve anything and there will be a company that will step up and just provide a stock machine which you're going to use until it stops functioning.

We're so close now. I'm working on a machine that's around 7 or 8 years old. It's almost certainly more powerful than your machine that you're using now. I'll be able to use this until it stops working.
56   Patrick   2022 Aug 25, 8:31pm  

richwicks says


I'm actually considering getting rid of my phone again. I mean, I will have a phone, but no monthly payments, I'll just use wifi.


I would love to do that, but the catch there is getting driving directions, or getting contacted when you are en route to some event.

I did use to drive without phone directions, and actually kind of like paper maps. But the ability to tell people you're running late or for them to tell you something is cancelled or the location has been changed is pretty important.
57   EBGuy   2022 Aug 25, 9:17pm  

richwicks says

He's living in the past, nearly nobody has a cell phone AND a land line.

Landline is bundled (whether you use it or not) with DSL and (most) fiber service.
58   Karloff   2022 Aug 25, 9:29pm  

Often power is substituted for on and all sorts of words or symbols are substituted for off.

This bothers me to no end. Icons with symbols on them that I have no idea what they refer to. I have to click and see what the result is and then commit that to memory instead of reading a simple word.

I get that they ship this same software to every country on Earth and don't want to have to translate words to every language, but they're doing that with the manuals anyways, and locales have been a thing with computers for over 30 years now, so it's not like it's much more effort for these billion dollar corporations to do.

I remember telling my daughter to hit the button with the "3 lines on it". And she says "oh, you mean the hamburger button?" I thought she was joking, but no, apparently that's what it's called.
59   Patrick   2022 Aug 27, 5:59pm  

It's kind of like learning Chinese. You just have to memorize all the symbols. I much prefer the alphabetic system.

A Chinese friend once asked me why the dictionary has pronunciations separate from spellings. His point was that we could just write with the pronunciations as given in the dictionary instead of inconsistent English spellings. He didn't want to memorize all the spellings, lol.

I replied that the varying spellings give you some additional info, like the difference between they're, their, and there. But he had a point for English, anyway. German, Spanish, and Italian spelling are pretty much phonetic.
60   Blue   2022 Sep 19, 1:19pm  

ZipperTits says

Ceffer says





This guy is really genius in abstract thinking.
61   Onvacation   2022 Sep 20, 6:40pm  

Patrick says

I would absolutely vote for Thomas Sowell as well.

He would not run if nominated and he would not serve if elected. He's a wise man.
62   Onvacation   2022 Sep 20, 6:44pm  

Onvacation says

not run if nominated and he would not serve if elected

Anybody know who I was paraphrasing above?
63   HeadSet   2023 Jan 2, 2:58pm  

Wow. Espousing facts and common sense is "owning the Libs."
64   richwicks   2023 Jan 2, 4:04pm  

cisTits says


richwicks says


He's living in the past, nearly nobody has a cell phone AND a land line. They have one or the other. He just doesn't realize this.


I do.



I said NEARLY nobody, some do. My parents do, they are in their 80's.
65   richwicks   2023 Jan 2, 4:17pm  

cisTits says

I use the number when I have to provide one on a firm. Spam callers hit that instead of either of our cell phones.


Well, it's only 5 bucks a month or so.

My parents have theirs because it's easier to have both my mom and dad on the line at the same time, and they ran a business off that number for a long time. It's not really a phone line either, it's a cell line that connects to standard phones. It's kind of neat in a way, when the power goes down, it's got a battery backup and will continue to run for several days - so it acts as a lifeline. That being said, it's a bit buggy.
66   HeadSet   2023 Jan 2, 7:32pm  

I also have a land line. The wife wanted it because she wanted something that would work when the power went out. Oddly enough, my daughter bought a rotary phone at an antique shop, I plugged it in and it worked - even calling someone using that dial. I am surprised that touch tone copper still supports the old rotary system.
68   HeadSet   2023 Apr 8, 6:48pm  

For "centuries?" I wonder if meant "for decades."

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