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Yes, I just said it's closer. It's still cloned into a mostly harmless weakened virus I think? Which is pretty much the definition of viral vector dna sans 'weakened'.

Point is it's not mRNA.

I think they grow up flu vaccines (virus or virus particles) in chicken eggs?

just_passing_through says

Yes, I just said it's closer. It's still cloned into a mostly harmless weakened virus I think? Which is pretty much the definition of viral vector dna sans 'weakened'.

Point is it's not mRNA.

Ok, yeah I'm def not against this technology, it's just very untested and early (and unnecessary for most for Covid). I think they are already using mRNA in modern cancer research and treatment trials in the immunotherapy line. It may actually prove quite beneficial there.

Got mine (J&J). Felt crappy for a day.

If I'm forced to take the J&J one, to be able to attend conferences, then I'll first load up on my Quercetin, 1 g to 2.5 g per day, R-Lipoic Acid, 100 mg to 500 mg, Turmeric 1 g to 2 g, and get my Zinc up 100 mg during the couple of days prior to the shot.

All and all, I want that modified rhinovirus to do absolutely nothing to my system, since I don't care for its efficacy.

Rin says

If I'm forced to take the J&J one

I took it voluntarily. Glad I am vaxxed now.

mell says

Ok, yeah I'm def not against this technology, it's just very untested and early (and unnecessary for most for Covid). I think they are already using mRNA in modern cancer research and treatment trials in the immunotherapy line. It may actually prove quite beneficial there.

Yup! I have high hopes for mRNA in general. I'm no luddite. Just concerned about how it's pushed out so quickly in vaccine form where patients have no recourse. If I had cancer and I was running out of options I'd try just about anything.

LOLZ!

@Rin is going to kill the goddam 'vaccine' hahaha!

just_passing_through says

If I had cancer and I was running out of options I'd try just about anything lol.

Exactly! And likewise, when nanotech gains more momentum, an mRNA device could also deliver a knock-out punch to a tumor, directly under its nose, than in the general body, which could cause one's organs to go into shock.

FWIW, I think people are exposed to DNA and RNA generally by eating. Both from plants and animals. Packaged in liposomes. So there is that. (I used to sit by a guy at work who was super paranoid about this)

Patrick says

I still do not know a single person who got sick from Wuhan flu, much less anyone who died.

now you know someone

Onvacation says

WTF does "Corona-Positive" mean anyway? Ya got a cold? Sniffles? Are you on the edge of viral pneumonia and you'll need a ventilator soon? Or did a nose swab tell you you were sick?

I have 100 F fever, feel tired, don't have appetite, that's about it.

just_passing_through says

exposed to DNA and RNA generally by eating. Both from plants and animals.

Yes, however, our cells have restriction enzymes which break 'em up into their sugar substrates making 'em into food stuff than an RNA fragment which could jam up the ribosomal complex.

All and all, the fact that the mRNA vaccine works, makes me even more worried because in effect, it's evaded our cell's early detection systems of an invading force.

Yup, RNAses..

In industry we just call that 'getting chewed up'.

Rb6d says

AAAAAAAAAANNNDDD... I am corona-positive! Which means that vaccine sucks.

@Rb6d So how do you feel? Ill or not?

Rin says

If I'm forced to take the J&J one, to be able to attend conferences,

If asked, you already had the shots. If asked for proof, you have a computer and a printer.

Booger says

If asked, you already had the shots. If asked for proof, you have a computer and a printer.

I am not sure it is a good idea to support the "vaccination regime" by pretending to be a part of it.

The FACTS are that the Wuhan is not fatal to anyone without comorbidities, there are cheap effective treatments, the experimental biologic agent is not a vaccine, will not finish it's human trials until 2023, and the jab will not give you immunity. State the facts and say that you prefer to take your chances with the cold.

Get well soon @Rb6d!

Patrick says

@Rb6d So how do you feel? Ill or not?

like suffering from a Chinese biological agent. Headache, eye ache, 99.5-100 F constant fever, tired.

After 3 days of fever and body/headache the worst part for me was the lethargy. That lasted 10 days and would come and go.

Onvacation says

Some experts predict that in the coming years there is going to be a massive die off of those who took the jab.

"Some experts" also predicted Bitcoin will go to 1.2K. Never happened....its at close to 60k. "Some experts" also claim the earth is flat. "Some experts" even think this year we will see a stock market crash.

just_passing_through says

Get well soon @Rb6d!

Thanks! Today is the first day I started feeling a little better.

I thought long and hard about it. Initially I was against it. I felt like it's been rushed and the longterm effects are (as yet) unknown. I talked to my doctor. I talked to friends and relatives who got it early. (I have several healthcare workers in my circle.) I thought about all the other stuff I've ingested and/ or been exposed to over the years. I looked at the risk given my personal health history.

Finally decided that for me the risks reward curve tilted towards rolling up my sleeve. First dose went fine.

That said it's a personal choice and if you don't want it I can respect that. Life, liberty and all that good stuff.

If you are serious about being actively anti-racist you won't take the jab until every black and brown person, who are disproportionally affected by the pandemic, is fully vaccinated.

I had Easter dinner with a group who work in hospitals. They were administrators.
A female friend who runs some radiology offices said she won’t take the shot.
Another female who is CEO of a local hospital said “are you an anti-vaxxer?”
I interjected “Some people are skeptical because they have been hearing bullshit for a year. It’s not their fault.”

I said I had no reaction to the Moderna shot, “I probably had the virus already a year ago.”

A gay administrator of another hospital corrected me “No you didn’t have it!”

The radiology girl has very little formal education; the administrators who gave us shit went to some business program at some college.

I was the only person there who has taken a university course in biochemistry, organic chemistry, physiology, anatomy, etc. , before working in science.

I don’t think that they were aware that the shot was 1. A new kind of vaccine 2. Not actually FDA approved (it has “emergency approval”)

clambo says

I was the only person there who has taken a university course in biochemistry, organic chemistry, physiology, anatomy, etc. , before working in science.

I don’t think that they were aware that the shot was 1. A new kind of vaccine 2. Not actually FDA approved (it has “emergency approval”)

Doesnt this play in your favor? Dumb people take the vaccine and according to Onvacation's experts they will die soon. The earth will then be populated by smart people who didnt take the vaccine.

Rb6d says

Patrick says

I still do not know a single person who got sick from Wuhan flu, much less anyone who died.

now you know someone

I had it too back in December.

Get your pins now!

FuckCCP89 says

Get your pins now!

Fuck Amazon!

Onvacation says

FuckCCP89 says

Get your pins now!

Fuck Amazon!

lol get you David's star now! Or better a tattoo on the forehead - where have we seen this before? hmmmmm

Onvacation says

FuckCCP89 says

Get your pins now!

Fuck Amazon!

Don't you love how they make money off that shit every possible way, coming and going?

Not always ...

BTW, did you know how much a "free" Covid test really costs? $225 for the collection of the sample and doing the necessary manipulations and another $225 to the doctor who "interpretes" the results. So $450 per test. It's a fucking gold mine for everyone involved, no wonder they are so keen on keep the shit going.

Anybody has the number for vaccination? I bet it at least twice that of the test.

FuckCCP89 says

It's a fucking gold mine for everyone involved

hehe, the company I work for profits from it :) But it all goes back into the economy.....company makes a killing, gives out nice bonuses and pay raises.....I invest more in stocks and RE.

FuckCCP89 says

BTW, did you know how much a "free" Covid test really costs? $225 for the collection of the sample and doing the necessary manipulations and another $225 to the doctor who "interpretes" the results. So $450 per test. It's a fucking gold mine for everyone involved, no wonder they are so keen on keep the shit going.

I've just done the self administered tests at CVS for my travels and the one time I was legit sick. Insurance covers it and it goes to a lab. I can't imagine they're making that much, but who knows... especially with health insurance.

I got two BS x-rays for my fractured heel that were 100% unnecessary for the injury. Big pharma and medical fleecing you with no regards to your actual health. Anyone involved should be prosecuted. Obviously will never happen. I hope everyone involved dies a slow, painful death.

LOL! Hague Nuremberg Lawsuit deems jab "Crime Against Humanity Shot".

Dolores Cahill Phd states that those over 70 receiving the mRNA jab will have a mean life expectancy of a year or so. Younger jabees in their 30's and 40's could have mean life expectancy of 4-5 years.

However, those surviving will have high incidence of immune system morbidities, including neurologic consequences.

now that I am vaxxed, we can finally invite a shit ton of people to our house! Pool party! It was a shame to not share our nice backyard during this beautiful sunshine weather!
Thank you Johnson and Johnson!

Bitcoin says

now that I am vaxxed, we can finally invite a shit ton of people to our house! Pool party! It was a shame to not share our nice backyard during this beautiful sunshine weather!
Thank you Johnson and Johnson!

Wowzer. So you're one of the sheep? Explains a lot. We went on vacation in May 2020 with 17 people in the same house, in Tennessee, right as the moronic freak out was happening. Southwest national park tour in 4-5 different hotels and houses in September. St. John, USVI. Anna Maria, FL. Pensacola, FL.

Never got covid. Plenty of pool parties last summer at our house with 30+ people. Just had some late night Easter party fun with 20+ neighbors last night. Must be fun to be cucked by your state government and let them get away with it....