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zzyzzx says

We need a vaccine against "short illness" developed and deployed ASAP! Lockdown to flatten the curve until then.

SMF (Sick Mother Fucker)
https://www.msn.com/en-us/video/elections/time-for-kids-talks-with-dr-anthony-fauci/vi-AAKWGjB

Fauci wants to make kids wear masks until they can vaccinate ALL school children.

Dude sounds tired. I don't think he ever believed in his bullshit.

ThreeBays says

Peru is definitely not a poster child for Ivermectin. First of all overall their death rate is the worst in the world by far.

Secondly, you're getting deceptive graphs from a deceptive site.

Don't believe it? Lima has 10 million people, compared to Arequipa & Cusco 1 million and 0.5 million respectively. Why don't you try visualizing how bad total deaths were outside of Lima when accounting for population?

Can't attack the message so you attack the source? Your response lacks substance but in fact, you made my point for me...correct, Peru is NOT the poster child for Ivermectin ANYMORE. When Peru implemented Ivermectin, deaths dropped significantly. When the new President got elected and started restricting its use, deaths skyrocketed. Here's the data:

Ivermectin for COVID-19 in Peru: 14-fold reduction in nationwide excess deaths, p<0.002 for effect by state, then 13-fold increase after ivermectin use restricted
https://osf.io/9egh4/

Here's an excerpt: "As reported there, in each state of Peru but Lima, IVM treatments were widely deployed at the time of an initial surge of pandemic cases and deaths; that surge period varied among the states between April and August 2020." So your point about Lima being a death zone is accurate, because they didn't deploy IVM...this correlates to graphs I posted above that you said was bad data.

How do you explain this? Do you have any studies to refute this or are you going to just find ways to attack this source too?

Onvacation says

Fauci wants to make kids wear masks until they can vaccinate ALL school children.

Hells no. My kids ain't touching any of it. It didn't and won't kill them.

Fauci is a fucking liar. I've hung out with people indoors and outdoors since May 2020 and I'm not dead. Got sick once and test negative for Covid.

ThreeBays says

Just a BS association. Peru followed the same pattern as any number of the other states and countries.

lol ok, except you posted # of cases in Florida, not deaths which is in the Peru graph. Speaking of BS associations haha

porkchopexpress says

ThreeBays says

Just a BS association. Peru followed the same pattern as any number of the other states and countries.

lol ok, except you posted # of cases in Florida, not deaths which is in the Peru graph. Speaking of BS associations haha

I get if you're old there might be concerned. Covid is a massive nothing burger though. It's not different than any flu bug and might even be more tame than other influenza viruses. This whole thing has been a joke and people bought into it. Like a light switch even populous place here in IL are 100% back to normal after 50% of people get a vaccine in testing phase and we still have similar case loads as last summer. People are fucking idiots.

Ivermectin has at least 56 randomized controlled trials so far, with excellent results.

https://medicalupdateonline.com/2020/12/ivermectin-for-covid-19-56-rcts-so-far/

Even the NIH cannot just lie about the efficacy of Ivermectin anymore:

Therapeutic Advances:
A large majority of randomized and observational controlled trials of ivermectin are reporting repeated, large magnitude improvements in clinical outcomes. Numerous prophylaxis trials demonstrate that regular ivermectin use leads to large reductions in transmission. Multiple, large “natural experiments” occurred in regions that initiated “ivermectin distribution” campaigns followed by tight, reproducible, temporally associated decreases in case counts and case fatality rates compared with nearby regions without such campaigns.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8088823/

ThreeBays says

Not sure if you're being intentionally ignorant --

Nope, just stating the facts. Go read the link that Patrick just posted. Are you going to say those studies are bogus too? Now we're really seeing that confirmation bias shining through.

Where are the 56 randomized controlled trials that prove Ivermectin does NOT work?

Original Link

"We made a big mistake on Covid-19 vaccine"

https://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2021/06/14/covid-19-vaccine-mistake.aspx

Short, 8min audio-only interview with Canadian immunologist and vaccine researcher Byram Bridle, Ph.D. TLDL version is:

- All current vaxxes in North America generate spike protein in the body
- Spike protein is harmful
- Vax was previously thought to stay in the muscle, turns out that's not true.
- Spike protein collects in bone marrow, spleen, and ovaries

In response to Karloff


"We made a big mistake on Covid-19 vaccine" - it's not a mistake, but that's what they will claim.

richwicks says

Original Link

@richwicks

What are the three steps?

I plan to watch the video, but more than three hours is a long time to wait for three points.

Patrick says

What are the three steps?

I've seen this video posted several times now, in several places. Must be good.

Yes, what are the 3 steps?

Patrick says

richwicks says

Original Link

@richwicks

What are the three steps?

I plan to watch the video, but more than three hours is a long time to wait for three points.

Oops! I posted the wrong one. Just listen to the first 20 minutes.

Basically, it's the inventor or the mRNA vaccine technology - Robert Malone agreeing with a who basically wrote up the problems of the mRNA vaccine as being very problematic. The copy I INTENDED to get was this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Du2wm5nhTXY

The complete (original) video is here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_NNTVJzqtY&t=0s

Brett Weistein made a (minor) name for himself by theorizing that the reason lab mice have such long telomeres isn't because it's natural for them to have it, but there was an evolutionary pressure for them to develop it. As a result, drug tests going through such mice are not good models for human beings. The mice have TREMENDOUS regenerative powers, at the cost of them ALL getting cancer at the end.

That's interesting, because chickens all get cancer eventually if you don't eat them.

We had a bunch of chickens over their whole lifespans, and they all died of cancer.

Patrick says

That's interesting, because chickens all get cancer eventually if you don't eat them.

We had a bunch of chickens over their whole lifespans, and they all died of cancer.

They hypothesis of Bret Weinstein was that because lab rats were bred at an early age, they didn't have to function once they reproduced - so there was no environmental pressure for survival once they had been mated. Old mice don't reproduce in the laboratory, EVER.

I imagine the same is true of chickens generally. I wonder if a more wild breed wouldn't be as susceptible to cancer?

I know with hens, they lay eggs in cages, so that their production can be measured, and if they don't produce enough eggs, off to slaughter they go. They have the same issue possibly. I wonder if I can contact Bret Weinstein about this?

This might also explain why dogs frequently get cancer. Both my dogs had cancer. One inoperable (he was a mutt - made it 16), and the other was operable - at 12 and she made it to 16 - she was a purebred Samoyed. Samoyeds have only recently been brought into modern western society - before that, they were dogs of the Samoeydic people - also known as the Nenets. Labs always get cancer, and they've been in western society forever.

richwicks says

if they don't produce enough eggs, off to slaughter they go

I think this may be what predisposed domestic chickens to cancer. Farms have selected for extreme productivity.

Ovarian cancer, and other reproductive tract neoplasia, occur frequently in domestic hens, especially in high egg producing breeds. Up to 30 to 35% of domestic hens develop ovarian cancer by the time they are 2.5 years old (Fredrickson,1987).

http://www.poultrydvm.com/condition/ovarian-cancer

I bet other cancers were also selected for by keeping only the fastest growing chickens because they are more economical to raise.

richwicks says

Patrick says

That's interesting, because chickens all get cancer eventually if you don't eat them.

We had a bunch of chickens over their whole lifespans, and they all died of cancer.

They hypothesis of Bret Weinstein was that because lab rats were bred at an early age, they didn't have to function once they reproduced - so there was no environmental pressure for survival once they had been mated. Old mice don't reproduce in the laboratory, EVER.

I imagine the same is true of chickens generally. I wonder if a more wild breed wouldn't be as susceptible to cancer?

I know with hens, they lay eggs in cages, so that their production can be measured, and if they don't produce enough eggs, off to slaughter they go. They have the same issue possibly. I wonder if I can contact Bret Weinstein about this?

This might also explain why dogs frequently get cancer. Both my dogs ha...

Dogs also get sicker here because we spray glyphosate and other herbicides, pesticides etc. into our nature and it concentrates on the ground and low brush and plants.

https://twitter.com/IanFelipeSays/status/1403831960049307654#m

Ian Martiszus 🇺🇸
@IanFelipeSays
Jun 12
Here is new COVID data that suggests natural immunity provides a broader antibody response than vaccines.

This has implications for states that ignore the role natural immunity plays in herd immunity.

Check it out, especially if you've had #COVID19.

https://www.cure-hub.com/post/covid-19-natural-infection-vs-vaccine-immunity

https://twitter.com/AlexBerenson/status/1404408955149991939#m

19-year-old Simone Scott was excited to get her second dose of @moderna_tx’s #Covid vaccine on May 1.
Now her mother Valerie Kraimer is arranging her funeral.

Simone, a first-year Northwestern University student, suffered a case of apparent myocarditis-induced heart failure on Sunday, May 16.
Despite extraordinary measures to save her, including a heart transplant, she died Friday morning at Northwestern Memorial Hospital in Chicago.

Now her parents are struggling to understand what happened to Simone – and why they had no idea the Covid vaccines might cause myocarditis.
“I lost my only daughter,” Kraimer said Sunday night. “I never thought I’d have to give up my daughter for the greater good of society.”

Doctors appear to have repeatedly missed signals as Simone’s condition worsened in the two weeks following her second shot – before she abruptly crashed.
In mid-May, Israel was reporting high rates of cases of mRNA vaccine-related myocarditis in young people.

But in the United States, vaccinations had just been opened for 12-15 year-olds - and @cdcgov played down the myocarditis risk in young people.
In a statement May 17, the day after Simone died, the CDC reported that it had found “relatively few reports of myocarditis to date...”

Simone’s physicians still have not confirmed that her vaccine caused her heart failure.
But despite nearly a month of intense investigation, including an pathological examination of her heart after its removal in the transplant, they have offered no other explanation.

“My fear is that we’ll never know what happened to Simone,” her father, Kevin Scott, said Sunday night. “[The vaccine] is a coincidence that is too big to ignore.”
“I do suspect it was the vaccine,” Kraimer said. “If it wasn’t direct, it played a role.”

Simone had been a healthy young woman, her only notable illnesses a bout of pneumonia when she was an infant and a second in high school.
She told her mother in sixth grade she wanted to go to Northwestern. Six years later she applied early to the university and was accepted.

“She was very, very disciplined," Kraimer said.
That discipline extended to her attitude toward Covid. She always wore masks and followed Northwestern’s sometimes onerous rules about testing when the school allowed its first-year students on campus in January.

Despite its Covid restrictions, the school was everything she hoped, her mother said.
She produced stories for the school’s in-house television network and quickly made friends.
“She was a Wildcat [the Northwestern mascot] through and through,” Kraimer said. “She bled purple.”

And when Illinois opened vaccinations to younger people, she quickly made an appointment.
“She took it upon herself to get vaccinated,” Kevin Scott said.
But she suffered serious short-term side effects after her first dose April 3 and never fully recovered, her parents said.

Throughout April she had a cough and and felt fatigued. Simone checked in with her mother, who lived near Cincinnati, frequently. Kraimer asked her to go to a doctor.
But neither Simone nor her mother considered whether the vaccine might be behind her symptoms, Kraimer said.

“We thought it was either allegories or a sinus infection.”
So on May 1, as scheduled, Simone received her second Moderna vaccination. This time she had fewer immediate side effects.

But when she flew back to Ohio to surprise her mother for Mother’s Day, Sunday May 9, Kraimer noticed she seemed tired. And Simone told her mother she’d had repeated nosebleeds.
Kraimer told her she needed to make an appointment with a doctor.

Back in Illinois on Wednesday, May 12, she did.
But the visit was virtual and Simone forgot to mention that she’d noticed swelling the day before in her lymph nodes.
The physician told her she probably had allergies.

The next day, she had a low fever and went to the student health clinic. Tests for Sars-Cov-2, flu, and other viruses were negative.
A doctor noted Simone’s heartbeat was irregular but discharged her, telling her to go to the emergency room if the problem worsened, Kraimer said.

The following day she’d developed a sore throat. She went back to the clinic. By now Kraimer was worried enough to insist her daugher FaceTime the visit.
Simone was told she might have a viral infection, given an anti-viral prescription, and again sent back to her dorm room.

By Friday night she was suffering severe fatigue.
Still, her parents assumed she was simply rundown and sick, especially since doctors had now seen her three times in three days.
“People do get sick, and you get some rest, and you sleep, and you get through it,” Kraimer said.

But everything changed Sunday, May 16. Simone texted her father she was too dizzy to get out of bed or eat.
Her mother packed a bag and began the drive from Ohio to Illinois. Her dad called campus police and asked them to check on her. After initially refusing, the police did.

They found Simone unable to walk and called an ambulance to take her to nearby North Shore Hospital.
Kraimer arrived there that night. When she explained who she was there to see, she was escorted into a waiting room. “That’s when I knew things were not right,” she said.

A doctor appeared, telling her that her daughter had gone into heart failure as she was being transported to the hospital and needed immediate surgery.
“They said her heart was not functioning and they needed to insert a balloon pump to get it working.”

Doctors almost immediately diagnosed Simone with myocarditis - heart inflammation, often caused by viral infection. "They did at that point suspect that it was myocarditis," Kraimer said. "They were thinking it was a virus that had attacked her heart."

But Simone's implant failed to restore her heart function. The next day, she was placed on ECMO, a heart-lung bypass. Nearly a month of increasingly desperate medical procedures followed.

On May 20, with a transplant looming, Simone was moved to Northwestern Memorial, the university’s primary teaching hospital.
She was sedated most of the time, but doctors sometimes lightened the sedation enough for her to text her parents. “Am I going home with you?” she asked.

On Sunday, May 23, Simone’s physicians told her parents that her heart did not seem to be recovering on its own and a transplant was her best option.
“We didn’t have much choice,” Kraimer said.
She had the transplant that night. Ultimately, her new heart did begin to pump.

But her lungs had been severely damaged, and the immunosuppressive drugs necessary for her to avoid rejecting the transplant led to severe lung infections.
After a few hopeful days, her prognosis dimmed.

Her parents never completely lost hope.
But on the morning of Friday, June 11, her doctors told them that they could no longer control her blood pressure and that they should come to say goodbye.
At 11:19 a.m., Simone Scott died. She was 19.

Kraimer and Simone's father repeatedly asked whether the hospital intended to report the case to VAERS, the federal system to report vaccine side effects.
Doctors did not seem particularly interested in doing so for most of the time Simone was there, Kraimer said.

“We kept asking if they did and nobody could tell us if they did,” Kraimer said. “It was just a runaround.”
Finally, the day before Simone died, a physician’s assistant promised to report the case.

With their daughter gone, Simone's parents are now hoping that her story will – at the least – raise awareness of the potential for post-Covid vaccine myocarditis.
“I never knew that there was a risk for something as serious as this,” Kraimer said. “I would have wanted to.”

In the meantime, they are left to mourn the loss of their only child.
On May 12, four days before Simone collapsed, Northwestern required all its students – with very limited exceptions – to be vaccinated for the fall 2021 term.
END

mell says

Dogs also get sicker here because we spray glyphosate and other herbicides, pesticides etc. into our nature and it concentrates on the ground and low brush and plants.

Oh, I don't really believe that.

BOTH my dogs got to 16. They were 45 and 65 lbs - not small dogs.

They'd never get that old in the wild. I used to foster. I've seen 8 year old dogs "living in the rough" and they're way old before their time.

I (really my parents) had dogs when I was a kid in the middle of Nowheresville Nowhere. Seriously, very isolated community. None of them made it past 12. We lived a full 1/2 mile away from the road, nearly all of them were hit by cars. I sometimes wonder if it wasn't just suicide? Some just never returned after a day running around through the wilderness - plenty of animals were around that could take them out.

So I don't worry about "non organic food".

ThreeBays says

Patrick says

Ivermectin has at least 56 randomized controlled trials so far, with excellent results.

https://medicalupdateonline.com/2020/12/ivermectin-for-covid-19-56-rcts-so-far/

I reckon the 33 million population based trial in Peru between Lima & other states trumps any small trials. If IVM was 80% effective as you believe, shouldn't other states have 20% of the death rate of Lima instead of 300%? Quite a margin of error there, not even close. Honestly I wish IVM worked. Maybe Peru stopped using it as treatment because they realized it doesn't work. I believe people are fundamentally good.

We are at the point we can no longer trust published statistics. Don't you realize that by now? Clinton has a 97% chance of winning, after all, and Biden is simultaneously got the most votes as a percentage of the people in the country, and got the lowest percentage of counties ever to win.

You have to realize, we really live in clown world. No joke. This isn't the Internet we had in the 1990's, now it's filled with complete disinformation and propagandists and they invade every level of science now. Why do you think Google has a fucking "diversity hiring" quota? Yandex, is seriously eating their lunch.

Hey, good, I bought stock in Yandex.

Patrick says

Hey, good, I bought stock in Yandex.

They have a stock?

https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/YNDX

I think that's a good long term play.

In response to Patrick


I've tried to contact Dr. Weinstein - I think this might be another confirmation of his hypothesis, but I'm running into a group of PR dopes, so not much hope there. We'll see. Maybe I'll try to contact his brother - he's less famous, so maybe I can more easily contact him. You'd be surprised how easy it is to contact a semi-famous person if you spend the time to track them down. It's a question of how many people are trying to talk to them.

Again, his hypothesis is that animals that are bred at a young age, generation upon generation develop longer telomeres. Longer telomerers allow the organism to repair cellular damage duplicating the cell more times, however, the cost is a greater risk of cancer because each duplication can result in an error - which is uncontrolled cellular duplication when the error allows unlimited duplication. The telomeres are a feature of the organism that prevents infinite duplication of the cell, because eventually there's an error in duplication - this is cancer but if it exhausts the number of telomeres, it ends the uncontrolled duplication - this would be a benign cancer.

The current hypothesis is that when a cell divides, the telomeres of the DNA sequences shortens, giving a maximum number of duplications of the cell. When there are no more telomeres, the cells stop reproducing so if it's an uncontrolled duplication, it still stops because of the shortened telomeres, it can no longer duplicate.

So, at the cost of limiting our lifespan, it reduces our risk of cancer.

Lab rats, never grow old, but they all die of cancer.

There's a LACK of environmental pressure in lab rats to have shortened telomeres because it's not a factor in their reproductive ability, I think the same may be true of chickens, and many farm animals. I'd bet many farm animals die of cancer if they aren't slaughtered. I'd suspect cows would be the next likely organism.

I'll wait a week or two, then try to contact his brother if I get no response. His brother is quite enthusiastic about promoting his younger brother's career - basically, he feels Bret was cheated out of his discovery - if indeed his discovery was correct. The discovery, again, was that all lab rat models of drug tests, are entirely wrong - because they are all mutants. Their cells can duplicate well beyond any normal mammal, so they can fix problems that would normally kill other mammals, because their telomeres are so long. Cut a lab rat? It heals without a scar. Destroy 40% of its heart with a drug? It's fine - but not true for humans. So drugs that rat models are able to deal with just fine, kill humans. As a result, human beings are getting drugs that will kill not only the disease, but the human as well.

I'll contact one of the brothers somehow. Scientists don't look toward farmers for information generally. I think you've pointed something out quite possibly interesting. Maybe. I was once in the 4H club!

richwicks says

mell says

Dogs also get sicker here because we spray glyphosate and other herbicides, pesticides etc. into our nature and it concentrates on the ground and low brush and plants.

Oh, I don't really believe that.

BOTH my dogs got to 16. They were 45 and 65 lbs - not small dogs.

They'd never get that old in the wild. I used to foster. I've seen 8 year old dogs "living in the rough" and they're way old before their time.

I (really my parents) had dogs when I was a kid in the middle of Nowheresville Nowhere. Seriously, very isolated community. None of them made it past 12. We lived a full 1/2 mile away from the road, nearly all of them were hit by cars. I sometimes wonder if it wasn't just suicide? Some just never returned after a day running around through the wilderness - plenty of animals were around that could take them out.

So I don't worry about "non organic food".

It's not about organic. It's about concentration of pesticides. It's the same principle as to why kids used to get sick from lead in fuel but adults didn't get as sick if at all. And families living on ground floor were worse off than those living on the 4th or 5th floor. Smaller beings inhale what's close to the ground, and animals eat a lot of the plants that have been sprayed or come in very close contact with them. It's a real issue for small beings, hardly an issue for a 6 foot tall grown adult. Doesn't always mean though that life is easier "in the wild" as we optimize their care in other ways.

Dr Roger Hodkinson in Canada calls it all EXTREME MEDICAL MALPRACTICE in this 40 minute video with Anna Brees:

original link
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Good to hear from Hodkinson again. Brees interrupts too much though, and the good doctor is still naive in thinking how they're going to get their message out. He says,

"You can't suppress books"

After he personally experienced what goes on with censorship by massive tech giants, government, and the medical industry, he thinks globalist Amazon is going to just let those books fly out of their warehouses? The cabal behind this will ensure all major publishers will be the choke point.

Oh, and that Bernier fellow they mention near the end? They arrested that guy.

The Streisand Effect should help mitigate that though.

People do want to read exactly what you try to prevent them from reading.

Bioterrorism Injection

I bought it exactly because it is not Google. Yandex has a far better security profile!

If you don't want to be spied on by the CIA/NSA etc, then Yandex is the place to search.

I actually bought the stock in 2015, and have doubled my money. So it's been good.

P/E is not bad considering the revenue growth:



PEG is more important than plain P/E

I have my first vaccination challenge coming this October assuming they keep regulations the same. BVI is open and you can get in if vaccinated. No quarantine. We have a boat day planned from St. Thomas and want to stop in the BVI as last time one of our dip shit friends didn't have a passport. I've been, but the Baths on Virgin Gorda are amazing. Haven't gotten over to Jost Van Dyke either.

I'm not getting vaxxed. Wife is willing to and I don't want her too. Besides the card I've seen here and elsewhere, anyone have any suggestions of work arounds? It's another country and wasn't sure if some database has been created that's being shared with the world. I highly doubt they'd actually call the place of the poke and confirm if I've been vaccinated. Too labor intensive as they'd likely be on hold for minutes and maybe hours and they have a steady flow of people coming in.

Hysterical part is you still need a negative covid test AND be vaccinated. Not the US government, but pure retardation. I thought the vaccine protected you? Basically an admission that covid is the flu and will keep spreading indefinitely. Hopefully they unwind this fear mongering by the time we go as I'm not getting vaccinated and not sure the consequences of getting caught with a forged vax card.

WookieMan says

It's another country and wasn't sure if some database has been created that's being shared with the world. I highly doubt they'd actually call the place of the poke and confirm if I've been vaccinated. Too labor intensive as they'd likely be on hold for minutes and maybe hours and they have a steady flow of people coming in.

No, there is not a massive database in the US on who got the shot. Biden and his crew already backed off the vax passport because:

1) States fought him on this
2) Biden/Psaki admitted they didn't have a way to track vaxxed people making this whole thing a cluster and losing 100% control of the narrative.

You can download the CDC vax card and fill that shit out yourself if you want. Plenty of people have posted their shots online for you to copy. They have no real way of tracing it back.

However, they are now pushing the booster shot this Sept which may be the ground work on how to track those who took it.

The whole thing from covid to the shot is a joke.

WookieMan says

I highly doubt they'd actually call the place of the poke and confirm if I've been vaccinated. Too labor intensive as they'd likely be on hold for minutes and maybe hours and they have a steady flow of people coming in.

They will simply be told to fuck off: no medical provider would divulge any info about their patient to some fuck on the phone claiming he's some kind if authority figure in some shithole country. The lawsuit would be epic.

joshuatrio says

The whole thing from covid to the shot is a joke.

If it's a joke, we have nothing to worry about then. If it's an evil plan...

joshuatrio says

However, they are now pushing the booster shot this Sept which may be the ground work on how to track those who took it.

I'm just pissed this is something I even have to think about. I think most MLB stadiums are at full capacity now. Cases should be surging like a mother fucker. They're below the start of this thing at this point as far as new daily cases. Vaccine doesn't stop the spread, just reduces or stops symptoms. I'm going to Red Rocks, CO this weekend for a show. I have zero fear of covid from the plane, concert or my buddies coming down from MT.

None of this has ever made sense, but I keep getting so fucking frustrated over it. We need to move the fuck on. I honestly don't think this will be labeled as a pandemic historically down the road. Basically 3.9M deaths out of 7B+. That's a rounding error. 0.05% of the population died "supposedly" from this virus. Most have multiple health issues or older in age. Pandemics kill kids, it kills everyone. This kills old fat people. Who cares? Don't be fat and you can't stop aging. BOOM! Pandemic solved.

joshuatrio says

The whole thing from covid to the shot is a joke.

It's not a joke. It's a scam used to steal an election.