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Wow.. The Johnson and Johnson shot just got pulled in the US due to blood clots.

https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/fda-halts-use-jnj-covid-jab-after-6-cases-deadly-rare-blood-clots-identified

Meanwhile the Astra Zeneca was suspended in 17 countries due to blood clots as well.

Check the Facebook group about side effects and it's more common than they are admitting.

Bitcoin says

Thanks Dr. Wookie! Wish I would have known earlier.

joshuatrio says

Wow.. The Johnson and Johnson shot just got pulled in the US due to blood clots.

Question everything Bitcoin. Question everything. As much as we troll each other I wish no ill will on any human unless they fuck with my family. You shouldn't have taken this vaccine and I'm dead serious that I'd keep note of your BP at minimum and maybe just do an annual checkup. It sounds like it's quicker for those with adverse reactions, but who knows? No one does because it's only been in mass production for 3 months. Any trials were on trivial amounts of people and not FDA approved.

I'm pretty sure the wife is not going to take it now. Thank god these stories are hitting MSM finally. Sad part is I don't trust them for most other things, but if they're covering it then it's clearly a big issue as it goes against the brainwashing of getting the vax. No one should die from a vaccine for something that won't kill them anyway. This isn't polio.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/fda-freezes-johnson-johnson-vaccine-110027389.html

FDA Freezes Johnson & Johnson Coronavirus Vaccine Rollout After Six Blood-Clot Cases

zzyzzx says

https://www.yahoo.com/news/fda-freezes-johnson-johnson-vaccine-110027389.html

FDA Freezes Johnson & Johnson Coronavirus Vaccine Rollout After Six Blood-Clot Cases

This is great news really. There's now a valid and plausible objection to taking the vaccine. You shouldn't be forced to risk your life potentially. It's no different than spreading this to old people. I won't take the vaccine and they can stay home. Sounds like a win win to me. Goodbye vaccine passports. This really put me in a good mood now.

Thanks Dr. WOokie (hopefully this wont be marked as personal to call you Dr. lol)

I will add blood clot to the list. 6-13 weeks blood clot, 6month dementia, 1-2years death. The good news is, I can still have a pool party with blood clot and I have 5 1/2 month left until I wont remember.

feeling a little clotted today...guess I gotta stretch and take the doggy for a walk now.

Bitcoin says

Thanks Dr. WOokie (hopefully this wont be marked as personal to call you Dr. lol)

I don't mark your stuff personal unless it's personal. Patrick has verified this.

Don't know your age, don't care to know it. But if you're under 50-60 there's a fraction of a fraction that you'd die from it. There's a fraction of a fraction that you'd die from the vaccine. What is the point in being worried about either of those tiny, tiny probabilities of death? Just don't engage in the covid fear or vaccine shame people and let me live my life and do what I want to my body.

You can joke about the clotting and dementia all you want, people are suffering from these ailments and/or dying. I guess that's funny? Maybe it's a small amount, but it was enough to pull the vaccine you supposedly took. It's not a joke. FDA/CDC allows all sorts of meds that kill people and they're pulling this vaccine? Unapproved mind you. This really isn't a funny topic yet you make it a joke. People dying from a vaccine they didn't need to take. Hahahahahaha, so funny. Tell that to their family.

WookieMan says

Bitcoin says

Thanks Dr. WOokie (hopefully this wont be marked as personal to call you Dr. lol)

I don't mark your stuff personal unless it's personal.

Sweet, thanks Dr. Wookie! I will start making fun when they "un-pause" the J&J vaccine. It's really weird that they pulled the vaccine.....isnt the idea to kill the dumb people taking the vaccine? How are we supposed to get to 100M of Americans by 2025 if they pull the poisonous vaccine too early @Richwicks???

The cheering kinda reminds me off when BTC dips and the haters cheer (temporarily) like there is no tomorrow and then get slapped when the new all time high appears. happy 62k everyone!

Bitcoin says

I will start making fun when IF they "un-pause" the J&J vaccine.

No one cares about Bitcoin, hence why those threads have been buried. But hey, bring it up on a thread about vaccines.

WookieMan says

Bitcoin says

I will start making fun when IF they "un-pause" the J&J vaccine.

No one cares about Bitcoin, hence why those threads have been buried. But hey, bring it up on a thread about vaccines.

The ignore function is helpful. I enjoy lively debate, but his trolling got old quick.

Let's not turn this into a BTC thread. We already know your prediction of 1.2k was a historic failure.
Let's stay on topic. 6 weeks until blood clotting, 5 1/2 months until dementia and death in 1-2 years. Doggy is ready for his walk....I gotta un-clot now.

Vaccine shamming is real. Wife cancelled or the facility cancelled her J&J shot. I'm explaining to her that covid won't kill you, but this shot might. The fact that agencies that already allow medication and things that actually kill people daily pulled the plug on it is alarming. I wouldn't touch any of this shit as a thinking person. These are all just short term issues. No clue if even minor clotting now, could cause future issues 1 year down the road or 5.

Just watched a brief part of the presser Fauci did from the White House. He's lying. I didn't catch who the other guy was (name) but he was physically directing Fauci. Going to look into it later. It was a weird interaction for the 5min I watched. Fauci seemed like this guys bitch. I don't know if Biden spoke either. This is becoming a shit show for a minor flu that we are damn near at herd immunity for.

https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/london-doctor-describes-unprecedented-level-of-sickness-after-covid-injection

London doctor describes ‘unprecedented’ level of sickness after COVID injection

WookieMan says

Vaccine shamming is real. Wife cancelled or the facility cancelled her J&J shot. I'm explaining to her that covid won't kill you, but this shot might. The fact that agencies that already allow medication and things that actually kill people daily pulled the plug on it is alarming. I wouldn't touch any of this shit as a thinking person. These are all just short term issues. No clue if even minor clotting now, could cause future issues 1 year down the road or 5.

Just watched a brief part of the presser Fauci did from the White House. He's lying. I didn't catch who the other guy was (name) but he was physically directing Fauci. Going to look into it later. It was a weird interaction for the 5min I watched. Fauci seemed like this guys bitch. I don't know if Biden spoke either. This is becoming a shit show for a minor flu that we are damn near at herd immunity for.

This is true - just realize you have the power to vax shame the other way as well. I believe my neighbor was trying to politely shame me when he asked if I got my shot - so I politely replied and said I wouldn't consider it until it had actually passed FDA approval and safety checks; this had the side effect of me questioning his intelligence. He doesn't talk to me anymore.

Good for you for looking out for your wife. It's good to be on the same page. My wife and I are selective-vaxxers and carefully consider what goes in our bodies and children's bodies. Not sure if you saw the facebook group where people discussed the reactions, but it's alarming. This link should get you there - it's public, so you shouldn't need an account to read it: https://www.facebook.com/groups/allvaccinesarefake/?multi_permalinks=228772759017559

Fauci is a bitch. He's trying to keep the fear going so people get their shots, but I feel like the cracks are starting to show in their billion dollar venture.

The newest scare tactic seems to be the following message circling around the interwebz: sure, you probably won't die from the covid if you're not elderly, but you'll most def lose your sense of smell and all food and beverages you used to love would smell and taste like shit for the rest of your life, especially steak and coffee.

We're noticing the mental effects on the older vaccine recipients we know in Santa Cruz. Short term memory loss seems to be marked in people who were fine before the jab. Likely immune inductance against nerve and brain. They try to compensate for the missing memory, but can't quite tell it isn't there any more, but it is a deficit. They are also a bit spacey and not nailed down.

The lady that does my hair is just 60 (got both jabs and got very sick), and she couldn't remember anything we talked about at our previous session and she usually remembers everything.

its your body.....If you dont get vaxxed, absolutely fine. If you get vaxxed, your choice. Simple. I understand, many are pissed about the scamdemic. We have a nice restaurant in walking distance and it had to close.....i loved getting drinks there and tumble home across the golf course....covid shut it down and we hope they re-open this summer. I am also fed up with the scamdemic and using this for political reasons.
There are clowns on both sides.....the extreme ones always tell you you will get this and that and die if you dont do this and that.

The entire J&J story shows that the system is working. It will now be reviewed thoroughly and then a decision will be made that ensures safety.

again, your body, your choice. I am happy to be vaxxed. I dont care what people say or think about it or what they do with their body. One more time....your body, your choice.

WookieMan says

Just watched a brief part of the presser Fauci did from the White House. He's lying. I didn't catch who the other guy was (name) but he was physically directing Fauci. Going to look into it later. It was a weird interaction for the 5min I watched. Fauci seemed like this guys bitch. I don't know if Biden spoke either. This is becoming a shit show for a minor flu that we are damn near at herd immunity for.

Did you see both didn't wear the masks. The other guy went back and picked his mask from next to mic and pretending to wear it by pressing it towards his nose while leaving! I thought J@J is regular and do less harm, now everything is questionable even if one wants to take for the sake of others.

mell says

WookieMan says

Bitcoin says

That's great! Restaurants were only open for take out here.....so, I had to pick it up and save money on tipping.

Ouch. You don't tip for carry out? During a "pandemic" where businesses could barely stay open and employees were/are struggling to make ends meet? Alright....

Well it's the businesses faults for caving to everything. Most give you shitty service now and tack on all sorts of fees to cover for the policies the idiots enacted they elected. Fuck this, I'm cooking myself mostly these days whenever I find time. Nobody is giving me any "tip" on my 10 hour daily progamming shift.

You're not paid minimum wage.

Look, if you cannot afford the tip, you can't afford to go out to eat.

Bitcoin says

Sweet, thanks Dr. Wookie! I will start making fun when they "un-pause" the J&J vaccine. It's really weird that they pulled the vaccine.....isnt the idea to kill the dumb people taking the vaccine? How are we supposed to get to 100M of Americans by 2025 if they pull the poisonous vaccine too early @Richwicks???

What the fuck are you talking about? What are you referring to? What statement of mine?

You constantly mischaracterize what I've said, and you never quote me. You're implying I've said something about the purpose of the vaccinations. Well, if you are, you're being dishonest, again.

Blue says

I thought J@J is regular and do less harm, now everything is questionable even if one wants to take for the sake of others.

The FDA approves dangerous food, injections, medicines, etc. on a daily basis. 6 normally healthy women had blood clotting and we shut down a "vaccine" that is supposed to protect people from "the most dangerous virus" since the Spanish flu? We're not being told everything. Only 1/5th of the entire population is even close to a high mortality rate of a whopping 3-5% and they're 80 fucking years old... Past life expectancy. 4/5ths will have nominal symptoms IF any at all.

Bitcoin says

The entire J&J story shows that the system is working. It will now be reviewed thoroughly and then a decision will be made that ensures safety.

The system doesn't work. Didn't it already get reviewed before people started getting the poke? Oh that's right no, it didn't. It's only approved under "emergency" orders by one person. Our own government that is awful when it comes to competence won't even approve it via the FDA. Let that soak in. Blind faith in government on any level is how you end up dead. Question everything.

Bitcoin says

again, your body, your choice.

Cool. No masks. Your state requires them and I know you wear them. So you're being hypocritical. You've bought into the fear of a virus that kills less than 1% of the people that come into contact with it, if they even know. This isn't conspiracy stuff either. There's public data and this whole thing has been a joke and a lot of us here have been calling it for what it is nearing a year now.

It's not your body, your choice when every neighbor is shamming you and your government is shamming you because you don't have a vaccine that can kill you to protect from a virus that won't. Logic is a thing.

richwicks says

Bitcoin says

Sweet, thanks Dr. Wookie! I will start making fun when they "un-pause" the J&J vaccine. It's really weird that they pulled the vaccine.....isnt the idea to kill the dumb people taking the vaccine? How are we supposed to get to 100M of Americans by 2025 if they pull the poisonous vaccine too early @Richwicks???

What the fuck are you talking about? What are you referring to? What statement of mine?

You constantly mischaracterize what I've said, and you never quote me. You're implying I've said something about the purpose of the vaccinations. Well, if you are, you're being dishonest, again.

You really should put him/her on ignore. There is no value in talking to him/her.

richwicks says

You're not paid minimum wage.

Look, if you cannot afford the tip, you can't afford to go out to eat.

Oh heck no...I could not afford all those guns and ammo and house(s) with minimum wage.....not to mention my crypto investments.

The second point you made is spot on. I always tip very well for exceptional service if I sit in a restaurant! If I pick up food, I dont tip. There is no service besides handing food over.
And I am eating at home, nobody is cleaning up/putting dishes in the dishwasher other than my wife. And she gets her tip .....always :)

WookieMan says

It's not your body, your choice

Wrong. Its your body your choice. You take the vaccine, fine. You dont take it, fine.

Dont make up issues when there arent any. I am happy with my J&J shot. I do feel stronger after taking the vaccine. Almost like a superpower....or its the dementia kicking it and I just forgot how strong I was before?
The fact that its now being investigated and reviewed again shows the system is working. It will soon be back on the market is my guess. The scare tactics by the anti vaxxers are not necessary. We wont see mass deaths and cases of dementia. Not even the blood clot will be a thing. Just wait :)
Same applies to the other side....nobody should be shamed into taking the vaccine....your body, your choice.

And if you are being shamed, just be a man. You'll get over it.

WineHorror1 says

You really should put him/her on ignore. There is no value in talking to him/her.

No value... lol. The guy doesn't even tip people that get paid sub minimum wage because they're considered a "server" or whatever for take out. Literally says getting take out is saving him money on TIPS, yet is a big baller in crypto?

You don't brag about "massive" gains and worry about tipping. It's guys like this that are the REASON we get bad service at a restaurant or service industry. Tips are shared in most cases among staff, so you're fucking over the guy/gal that made your food (cook) for $10-15/hr. But hey, at least he got off his ass to get take out and wore his mask after being vaccinated like a good little sheep only to shit on the people serving him. Lol, you can't even make this shit up.

I definitely agree ignore should be used. I can moderate when he gets out of bounds though with others, so I don't ignore. I'm feeding I know, but I gotta call BS when I smell it.

correct. tipping on take out food was never a thing and nobody expects this.....if i sit down, eat a nice steak, have some good german pilsners and receive good service I love to tip above and beyond. If I eat at home (take out food) and my wife has to clean up, she gets a nice tip....in a sexual way. If you like to tip on take out food be my guest. I support you and I wont shame you.

richwicks says

mell says

WookieMan says

Bitcoin says

That's great! Restaurants were only open for take out here.....so, I had to pick it up and save money on tipping.

Ouch. You don't tip for carry out? During a "pandemic" where businesses could barely stay open and employees were/are struggling to make ends meet? Alright....

Well it's the businesses faults for caving to everything. Most give you shitty service now and tack on all sorts of fees to cover for the policies the idiots enacted they elected. Fuck this, I'm cooking myself mostly these days whenever I find time. Nobody is giving me any "tip" on my 10 hour daily progamming shift.

You're not paid minimum wage.

Look, if you cannot afford the tip, you can't afford to go out to eat.

First of all it's not my fucking problem if ones job doesn't pay more - maybe reducing competition from illegal aliens will drive ones wages up, or maybe ones qualifications are just shitty. Second, I've known many waitresses who deliberately put off any "higher" education because they made $200k+ during the good years easily, so they should have plenty for the bad years, not to mention that quite a bit of that is tax free. Many "higher" degrees jobs pay minimum wage or only slightly more, and the minimum wage in SF is $15 which is quite high for a job where you do get tips if you actually serve your guests. Third, if a billionaire wants my coding skills and hires me for an hourly wage I should expect them to give me a couple grand of tips because they own and make 100x of what I do? No, you get paid for the job you do and if you do it well, esp. in the service industry, you get tipped quite well by everybody according to their means. Add in all those scam mandates the customer already has to pay on top of the bill and the service should be exceptional. I don't tip for take-out, I'd rather use the money and invite Patrick to a few glasses of wine for providing excellent SERVICE for his website. I've worked plenty of minimum or close to minimum wage jobs in my younger years, never expected any tips, esp. if I didn't render any services beyond what was agreed upon in the initial (low)-wage contract.

mell says

First of all it's not my fucking problem if ones job doesn't pay more - maybe reducing competition from illegal aliens will drive ones wages up, or maybe ones qualifications are just shitty. Second, I've known many waitresses who deliberately put off any "higher" education because they made $200k+ during the good years easily, so they should have plenty for the bad years, not to mention that quite a bit of that is tax free. Many "higher" degrees jobs pay minimum wage or only slightly more, and the minimum wage in SF is $15 which is quite high for a job where you do get tips if you actually serve your guests. Third, if a billionaire wants my coding skills and hires me for an hourly wage I should expect them to give me a couple grand of tips because they own and make 100x of what I do? No, you get paid for the job you do and if you do it well, esp. in the service industry, you get tipped quite well by everybody according to their means. Add in all those scam mandates the customer already...

great comments! 100% agree

WookieMan says

I definitely agree ignore should be used. I can moderate when he gets out of bounds though with others, so I don't ignore. I'm feeding I know, but I gotta call BS when I smell it.

I agree that Bitcoin is also full of crap, but it keeps me in practice to recognize when they are full of crap. You have to sort of have to keep in shape with "arguing" with somebody that is not engaging in sincere thinking.

it could be that some of these people screaming for tips on take out food are working in this industry and would like to get paid for basically doing nothing. Sorry guys....this is america....we dont tip if there is no service :) get a real career :)

richwicks says

I agree that Bitcoin is also full of crap

That's not nice....we just have different opinions on things....I dont believe the US government preps buildings for implosion and kills thousands of americans.....i believe the opposite. We leave no man behind no matter how badly insured.
I also believe we still have free speech compared to other countries. You believe we dont have free speech (snowden/russia).

Just because I dont believe what you believe and you cant convince me doesnt mean we cant be civil with each other.

Bitcoin says

mell says

First of all it's not my fucking problem if ones job doesn't pay more - maybe reducing competition from illegal aliens will drive ones wages up, or maybe ones qualifications are just shitty. Second, I've known many waitresses who deliberately put off any "higher" education because they made $200k+ during the good years easily, so they should have plenty for the bad years, not to mention that quite a bit of that is tax free. Many "higher" degrees jobs pay minimum wage or only slightly more, and the minimum wage in SF is $15 which is quite high for a job where you do get tips if you actually serve your guests. Third, if a billionaire wants my coding skills and hires me for an hourly wage I should expect them to give me a couple grand of tips because they own and make 100x of what I do? No, you get paid for the job you do and if you do it well, esp. in the service industry, you get tipped quite well by everyb...

While we're at it - what's with all the restaurants and their apps setting the minimum tippable percentage to 20%, 25% and 30% (few have 18% as minimum), so you have to hit custom tip if you do want to tip that much and it takes like 5 minutes to enter the amount. I have hit no tip occasionally in such cases and politely but assertively explained that if they set the bar that high and custom simply takes too long they may have to get used to getting 0%. Why not 50%? Just double the whole fucking bill, why not! How about you pick up your car from the mechanic and they tell you they did a great job so they added 20% gratuity, and so the bill is $2400 instead of $2000? Would you say sure! here's an extra $400, take my money! If so, Godspeed to you, you're a better man ;)

mell says

Why not 50%? Just double the whole fucking bill, why not! How about you pick up your car from the mechanic and they tell you they did a great job so they added 20% gratuity, and so the bill is $2400 instead of $2000? Would you say sure! here's an extra $400! If so, Godspeed to you, you're a better man ;)

Lol
I agree, we need to get back to a service industry mentality. You serve me well I will show my appreciation. If you treat me like a king at a restaurant or deliver me food on time and not mess it up, I gladly tip you well. If you expect me to tip for shitty service or no service (take out food), I politely say, get the fuck out :D

Does Bitcoin quack?

I remember when 10% was average service, 15% good service, and 20% outstanding service (0% was bad service/experience). And delivery was always 5% to the driver. Easy to remember and sane. But yeah we must have had hyperinflation in the tipping industry, So, now you're an asshole if you tip $20 or $30 on a $200 meal with average service, ok then, so be it.

mell says

I remember when 10% was average service, 15% good service, and 20% outstanding service (0% was bad service/experience). And delivery was always 5% to the driver.

and no tip on take-out food.

Spot on....in other countries they dont even tip at all. If you are in the service industry and want more for doing less, maybe its time to get a real job. You shouldnt make serving people at a restaurant your life long career and bet on people tipping more for less. Back in the day, being a server was meant to be a short term gig while getting your degree.

Bitcoin says

richwicks says

I agree that Bitcoin is also full of crap

That's not nice....we just have different opinions on things....

I'm not attempting to be unkind, or kind. In my assessment, I'm simply being factual. You don't engage in honest discussion and I've repeatedly demonstrated this to my satisfaction. I will only continue talking with you to demonstrate it to others.

For example, you just said this, again - the underscore and bold is mine.

Bitcoin says

I dont believe the US government preps buildings for implosion and kills thousands of americans.....i believe the opposite. We leave no man behind no matter how badly insured.

I've already addressed this incorrect "belief" in a response to you - you simply ignored that you are demonstrably wrong:

richwicks says

Bitcoin says

If you believe the US government would kill its own people you should join the jihadists.

Well the US government sure didn't have a fucking problem with killing off JFK, doing the Tuskegee Trials, doing Project MKUltra, or letting people die at the US Consulate in Benghazi Libya. Certainly didn't have a problem ordering police to stand down, and let BLM and Antifa burn, loot, and murder for 8 months. Funny that all just went away after Joe Biden was "elected" isn't it? Well, they were part of US intelligence operations, although I'm absolutely certain (well know for a fact) that most of the useful idiots don't realize they were. See? You don't have to realize you're part of a conspiracy to be part of a conspiracy.

You simply repeat the same statement, and ignore that I've even addressed what I consider your incorrect "opinion", an "opinion" I'm certain you are well aware is incorrect. You've taken no issue with very clearly documented examples of where innocent US citizens were victimized and abandoned by the US federal government. Of course the US government sacrifices its citizens to promote agendas. Clearly they do, but you ignore that fact, and simply reiterate your statement that the US federal government wouldn't allow innocent civilians to die to promote an agenda. They have.

Reasonably, I do not believe you are engaging in a sincere conversation. Mindlessly repeating the same thing as if your statement hasn't been at all challenged, that's what propagandists and trolls do - and in reality, they don't differ much - just one is stupid enough to work for free.

mell says

I've known many waitresses who deliberately put off any "higher" education because they made $200k+ during the good years easily

Complete and utter bullshit.

WineHorror1 says

mell says

I've known many waitresses who deliberately put off any "higher" education because they made $200k+ during the good years easily

Complete and utter bullshit.

On the contrary, many SF downtown bars/restaurants with at least a slight uspcale feeling could easily yield $200k for servers (esp. female), of course that was before the covidiotic shutdowns when life was buzzing. You don't have to believe it but they will tell you it's true. One of my friends deliberately postponed law school for more than 5 years to keep waitressing, and counting back then. You may not get this outside of coastal elite territory, but I've seen braggars and rick fucks tip her $50 on a $100 bill time and time again, and occasionally more than the "principal". Most of that money is not taxed since you're averaged at 10% tips, for a resonably attractive and friendly waitress tips are easily 30%-50% if not more. Can only speak for SF bay area of course, but you better believe it. The area is flush with tech multi-millionaires, now moreso than ever, they just can't spend it locally cause of the covidiot shutdowns. By the way the guys hailing you cabs at the big Vegas casinos make $250k in a slow year. Just because one doesn't have or need an education doesn't mean they can't make money (much better than a degree in genderquack).

richwicks says

You're not paid minimum wage.

Look, if you cannot afford the tip, you can't afford to go out to eat.

Many people in food service make little in wage and most in tips. I knew a young lady who made over $200 a night in tips for a 4 hour shift at an upscale SF restaurant while paid a very low "tipped wage". She was working her way through college.

Some people make bad life choices and then pay for it in menial jobs. I have always said to young people, "The harder you work now, the less hard you will have to work later".

That guy standing on his feet in a mask bagging your food and taking your money for 8 hours a shift is probably making minimal wage. At the end of the shift they get to split what ever goes in the tip jar with the cook. A buck in the bucket will show them that they are appreciated. They work hard and are preparing your food.