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Inflation incoming


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2021 Apr 14, 6:13am   21,122 views  262 comments

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Who would have thought. With all the people collecting "free money" and non-stop printing.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/blog/2021/04/12/pandemic-prices-assessing-inflation-in-the-months-and-years-ahead/

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170   NDrLoR   2021 Nov 24, 8:54am  

Bitcoin says
those that hold cash and see investing as gambling lose big time during inflation.
During the boom of the mid-60's, the stock market kept flirting with 1,000 in 1966, but never got above about 940. There was a date in 1966 that it would take the stock market until 1983 to reach again due to the Great Inflation of the 70's. Securities lost 40% of their value during that time.
172   Patrick   2021 Dec 11, 10:20am  

https://notthebee.com/article/can-we-talk-about-how-annual-inflation-just-hit-68-a-rate-not-seen-since-1982-?source=patrick.net

Can we talk about how annual inflation just hit 6.8%, a rate not seen since 1982?? 😬

The Biden "Presidency":



173   casandra   2021 Dec 11, 1:42pm  

Americans working hourly jobs will be screwed the most. Inflation has gone up faster than their earnings and this will continue.

However those on government programs like welfare and the such will do quite fine. The guv'ment will continue to give them more and more money in their pockets and more and more vouchers to pay for everything ELSE they are not already paying for!

I drive by parking lots of businesses where people work like Amazon or UPS and look at the cars there. Hoopties compared to those I see on the news in smash and grab robberies!

Nuff said!
175   Ceffer   2021 Dec 12, 4:41am  

That's why I bought my new car recently. I usually buy low mileage used about 2-3 years old, but I noticed they were pricing them as much as new, sometimes more. I told my wife with inflation, it would likely be a lot cheaper to buy now than later. One of her friends couldn't even find a rental car when her own car was being fixed, and they were charging $200 a day for the ones available in Santa Cruz.

I managed to buy my vehicle new at standard MSRP, which was fine with me. The dealer already had signs for $3500 mark up due to demand, even on the car I bought, but gave it to me at the standard price. He said my model only came in one at a time and were always gone in a few days. Some car dealers are hurting for inventory on the best liked models. Some of it is the chip shortage which is leaving high demand models in short supply.
176   Booger   2021 Dec 12, 6:50am  

Ceffer says
I told my wife with inflation, it would likely be a lot cheaper to buy now than later.


They will be cheaper later.
177   AmericanKulak   2021 Dec 12, 6:54am  

Ceffer says
That's why I bought my new car recently. I usually buy low mileage used about 2-3 years old, but I noticed they were pricing them as much as new, sometimes more. I told my wife with inflation, it would likely be a lot cheaper to buy now than later. One of her friends couldn't even find a rental car when her own car was being fixed, and they were charging $200 a day for the ones available in Santa Cruz.

I managed to buy my vehicle new at standard MSRP, which was fine with me. The dealer already had signs for $3500 mark up due to demand, even on the car I bought, but gave it to me at the standard price. He said my model only came in one at a time and were always gone in a few days. Some car dealers are hurting for inventory on the best liked models. Some of it is the chip shortage which is leaving high demand models in short supply.


Just happened to me last week. The used with 20k miles were only $3-4k cheaper than new... not worth it. Some were obvious Uber Cars with 30-40k miles in just a year, and were still only $4k cheaper than new. Retarded to pay $29k for a 20k mileage 2019/2020 when the 2021 with no mileage is $34k.
178   Maga_Chaos_Monkey   2021 Dec 12, 10:44am  

Booger says
They will be cheaper later.


This guy says prices should go back to normal 6 to 12 months from now:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EsRoDkaFaWU&source=patrick.net

Sales are down despite prices being up. Before the chip issue there were a lot of non-car owners buying cars to avoid public transit due to covid.

My bet is prices will go down but who knows.
179   Patrick   2021 Dec 12, 8:07pm  

https://notthebee.com/article/whoops-the-white-house-chief-of-staff-tweeted-about-gas-prices-falling-the-same-day-that-the-bureau-of-labor-statistics-said-the-gas-index-rose-61?source=patrick.net


WHOOPS! Biden's Chief of Staff said gas prices are falling the same day the Bureau of Labor Statistics said the gasoline index rose 6.1% 🤔

Commodore Vanderbilt
Dec 11th, 2021 12:13 pm
It's really embarrassing when Big Government can't figure out how to communicate the Narrative™ in sync
180   Patrick   2021 Dec 13, 7:30am  

https://spectatorworld.com/newsletter/why-wont-the-white-house-take-inflation-seriously/?source=patrick.net

Why won’t the White House take inflation seriously?


Answer: Because inflation does not hurt the leftist billionaires who fund Democratic corruption. Their stocks have compensated for inflation, and then some.

It's ordinary working people who get hurt by inflation, and the Democrats hate the working class with a passion.
184   Blue   2021 Dec 16, 12:57am  

psaki is a total shameless liar and waste of time to watch her.
188   RC2006   2022 Jan 4, 1:57pm  

Patrick says
https://nypost.com/2022/01/03/biden-says-he-found-out-from-family-friend-that-meat-costs-are-soaring/?utm_campaign=patrick.net&utm_source=patrick.net&utm_medium=patrick.net


I saw that. Next dems will try to set prices on common things, push to take over meat companies, maybe gas. Mmm where have we heard all this before?
189   B.A.C.A.H.   2022 Jan 5, 9:46am  

RC2006 says
dems will try to set prices on common things, push to take over meat companies, maybe ga


I am not apologizing for those notions, no way. Hedonic-adjustments for inflation indices are part of a larger conspiracy of lies to paper over our declining standard of living. I get it.

That said, we eat way more meat than we should, and waste way more gasoline than we need for our economic activity. Whether we think so or not, these are discretionary expenses that we can easily, elastically, reduce, with no decline in our standard of living.

Here's two common expense thingees they ought to focus on: health care and education.
190   GreaterNYCDude   2022 Jan 12, 6:34am  

So far inflation hasn't impacted us that badly (yet) in our house. Gas is more, but thanks to covid we travel less, and drive less, not more, so its a wash.

I cringe at the thought of what our next fuel oil bill will be to heat the house though.

Food has gone up noticeably but month to month it's not a huge expense. Our two biggest monthly line items are the house and childcare which are fairly static.

After almost two decades of near zero interest rates, we all knew the free money Era would end at some point. Part of me is surprised it took this long. I'm not convinced if this inflation is good, bad or indifferent. It depends on how severe it is and for how long.

There are always trade offs. I suspect the Fed will be forced to raise rates to combat this inflation surge. That means a better yield on my savings account which has been insultingly low, not that there is much in there.

Question - since inflation is seemingly here to stay, how are you adjusting your investments accordingly?
191   clambo   2022 Jan 12, 6:57am  

RE: greaternycdude’s question

In financial planning, one of the reasons to stay somewhat invested in stocks even though you may be retired is specifically to keep up with inflation.

If you’re not retired you can continue to invest for capital appreciation in retirement accounts as you have been (my assumption).

I’m retirement age but I want capital appreciation still, so I have a higher stock allocation than most “advisers” would recommend. I don’t care because I have sufficient income for my needs and even some desires ;)

What a retired person theoretically needs is income and just a bit of capital appreciation to combat inflation.

I’m not making any changes, but if the Democrats lose the House in 2022, I want to be in stocks then for shit sure.
192   B.A.C.A.H.   2022 Jan 12, 7:06am  

clambo says
one of the reasons to stay somewhat invested in stocks even though you may be retired is specifically to keep up with inflation.


I've read that German savers who had bonds, CD and whatnot were completely wiped out by the Weimar Inflation. Does deposit insurance like FDIC really matter when something like that happens?

The German stocks did not keep up with the Weimar Inflation. They lost something like 80% of their value vs other currencies. But that was still better than the cash and bonds which lost 100%. Gained it all back after the crisis abated.
193   clambo   2022 Jan 12, 7:49am  

I don’t worry about a repeat of Weimar history in the USA.

However, if you are worried about the loss of value of the US dollar, you can buy a Swiss stock ETF.
FLSW. I own a little bit of this Franklin ETF.

I will never buy gold, silver, BTC, etc.

The problem is that there are not very many Swiss stocks in the index, so it’s not very diverse.
194   NDrLoR   2022 Jan 12, 8:45am  

clambo says
I don’t worry about a repeat of Weimar history in the USA.
Neither do I, but one similar to that of the 70's would be pretty bad in any event.
195   rocketjoe79   2022 Jan 12, 9:03am  

7% inflation number was released today, and the markets sloughed it off.
197   clambo   2022 Jan 12, 9:08pm  

The problem in the 70’s was largely the Arab oil embargo (took revenge on the west for arming Israel).

After the embargo, they raised the price of oil.

As an investor I am more curious about interest rates rather than inflation.

But, I could end up being fucked since I am not working anymore.
198   ForcedTQ   2022 Jan 12, 9:41pm  

rocketjoe79 says
7% inflation number was released today, and the markets sloughed it off.


That was a signal/prod to the stupid money to keep buying stocks because if you just sit on the sidelines you’re going to loose value. All so the smart connected money can realize more gains from the stupid pumping, and stop the music at some yet undetermined time.

Got to figure out how to get the elite signals to not get smashed on investments and take the gains…
200   Blue   2022 Jan 13, 11:13pm  

If gov admits 7 it must actually be much higher in metros in reality. Massive money creation like 6T (for now) is primary factor. The cycle should be in early stage before all 6T get into the system. Way too much money chasing too little existing goods. It could eventually leads to recession. What a corrupt and crazy govs around.
201   Patrick   2022 Jan 15, 8:08pm  

https://notthebee.com/article/retail-spending-in-december-was-1800-lower-than-projected-because-of-inflation-and-i-dunno-i-think-that-13-trillion-we-printed-since-the-start-of-the-pandemic-might-have-backfired-a-bit?source=patrick.net

Retail spending in December was 1.8% lower than projected because of inflation and I dunno I think that $13 trillion we printed since the start of the pandemic might have backfired a bit
202   fdhfoiehfeoi   2022 Jan 18, 8:53am  

Someone put a note on my car this past week asking me to call them if I wanted to sell. I drive a less than pristine '98 Civic. Seems that speculation is driving used car market. As long as we keep chasing bubbles, instead of investing in honest economics, we will continue to see recessions/depressions and people will continue to lose their shirts. Look for or create goods or services people really need. Stop being greedy and chasing get rich quick schemes. The lack of moral integrity in our current economic system has directly led to the last two years.
203   clambo   2022 Jan 18, 10:35am  

Retail spending was lower after the free government cash slowed down and people were recently forced to pay the rent.
204   Eric Holder   2022 Jan 18, 1:17pm  

clambo says
people were recently forced to pay the rent.


LITERALLY HITLER!!!!!
205   Hircus   2022 Jan 19, 3:18pm  



Inflation is not Xoe Bridens fault, nor his duty, says Xoe and his loyal propaganda outlets.
206   Booger   2022 Jan 19, 4:50pm  

Hitler finds out about his gas price increases:
https://youtu.be/50fZu8ARSyg?source=patrick.net
209   mell   2022 Feb 6, 10:25am  

Another house next to us sold before hitting the market with an offer way above asking. Thought it was at least possible that we bought close to the peak last year but leaving SF was top priority. Now it's clear house prices will continue to climb at around inflation rate or higher, esp. in rural areas. We'll be closing in on a 100k increase at the 1 yr anniversary. Fucking insane, but it won't stop until all boomers are dead and prob many Gen xers as well as quite a few Gen xers became pretty wealthy by the related tech bubble. Asset inflation is here to stay

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