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ThreeBays says

So now that mask mandates are gone and the guidance is wear a mask if you're not fully vaccinated, people will go around shops and restaurants maskless, pretending to have been vaccinated, i.e. act like scum against society

Maybe we should just lock everyone up?

Isn't it even more scummy to produce a virus in a laboratory, release it, and then try to get everyone to take an experimental biologic agent by calling it a "vaccine "?

You're "vaccinated" , so you're immune. Right?

ThreeBays says

So now that mask mandates are gone and the guidance is wear a mask if you're not fully vaccinated, people will go around shops and restaurants maskless, pretending to have been vaccinated, i.e. act like scum against society.

How? If you're vaccinated why should you care? I thought masks worked? Vaccinated people still can pass Covid. Calling people scum is a bit over the top if you've been vaccinated. Nothing for you to worry about. You don't have to wear a mask and can spread it to people that decided not to get it. Shouldn't you be happy in theory?

WookieMan says

How? If you're vaccinated why should you care?

Well, that's only if the vaccine works. Provided the vaccine works, they are immune and the unvaccinated pose absolutely no risk to the vaccinated, provided the vaccine works. If it doesn't work, well, I have to ask what the point of getting the vaccine was?

Of course the government changed the definition of what a vaccine was recently. It used to be if you were vaccinated, you were immune. Now, they only claim you don't get "as ill" although there is no quantifiable way to measure that, and no qualitative way to measure that without vaccine trials - which we never had, but are going through now.

Just rest assured, it's safe - although for some reason the "vaccine" producers have demanded and gotten indemnity, and the FDA refuses to take responsibility by approving these "vaccines".

Also, these are the first DNA and mRNA vaccines EVER in human beings. There is no published data on the efficacy of either type of "vaccine" in humans, but in animals studies, there have been some fairly negative results which is why there are no DNA or mRNA "vaccines" for animals either.

Oh yes, and wikipedia's entry for mRNA vaccines has had their history scrubbed:

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=RNA_vaccine&&limit=500&action=history



Remember, if anything the US Federal government has done in the last 20 years, was prove how absolutely the US government is committed to being truthful </sarcasm>

WookieMan says

Shouldn't you be happy in theory?

You would certainly think so but, these people are NOT EVER happy when people are allowed to make choices on their own. Especially after they, themselves, have been conned into doing something they can never admit was a mistake.

Covid Vaxxers are seriously flawed people.

WineHorror1 says

You would certainly think so but, these people are NOT EVER happy when people are allowed to make choices on their own. Especially after they, themselves, have been conned into doing something they can never admit was a mistake.

"We'll be happy when Women are LIBERATED to make their own choices!"

Also:
"I'm 33. Where are all the Good Men? Won't somebody Man Up and provide me any my three Chadlings with an Upper Middle Class lifestyle? We have a Toxic Masculinity Problem! Who will pay for my Macy's Card and pay off my Student Loans for my Modern Theater Degree! Patriarchy sucks!!!"

https://foxbaltimore.com/news/local/gov-larry-hogan-covid-19-update-may-14

No more mask requirements in Maryland, except in Baltimore City.

WalMart no longer requiring masks for employees:
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/1-walmart-says-fully-vaccinated-215657574.html

It's going to be useless to try to get businesses to verify vaccination status. Like at a grocery store--would everyone que up for a store employee to check their papers? And what would stop me from going in with a mask (bypassing the vaccine verification line) and then take it off and blend in with the pre-checked people?

Another reason to avoid NY and NJ:
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/new-cdc-guidance-wont-end-ny-mask-mandate-yet-cuomo-says/ar-BB1gI3bV

Typical liberal:

https://www.salon.com/2021/05/14/nancy-pelosi-refuses-to-relax-mask-mandate-until-more-republicans-in-the-house-get-vaccinated/

https://babylonbee.com/news/cdc-says-you-no-longer-have-to-wear-a-life-jacket-outside-in-case-of-rain

richwicks says

I readily admit that I don't know the intricacies of such a pipeline, but the physics of it is interesting. It must require a HUGE amount of energy to start up the flow.

I don't either but seem to recall that a lot of our national pipelines are multi-use. Sometimes they are moving liquids and sometimes gases and they swap directions as well. So it may not be as difficult as you're thinking.

just_passing_through says

richwicks says

I readily admit that I don't know the intricacies of such a pipeline, but the physics of it is interesting. It must require a HUGE amount of energy to start up the flow.

I don't either but seem to recall that a lot of our national pipelines are multi-use. Sometimes they are moving liquids and sometimes gases and they swap directions as well. So it may not be as difficult as you're thinking.

Having a pool I'd actually think it would be pretty basic. Problems arise if you cannot remotely open/close valves that shut off flow and therefore pressure. There has to be a manual override though. I'd be shocked if there wasn't.

We have electric transformers blow a couple times a year in my town (old infrastructure). ComEd is here and has it fixed in 2 hours or less. Really hard to believe a pipeline company could not manually operate the system within 12 hours or less. Expensive, yes. But the slight increase in prices won't cover not selling your product for days. Whole situation seems weird.

Many are bi-directional but I was wrong about liquids and gases same line apparently:

https://www.pstrust.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/2015-PST-Briefing-Paper-02-NatGasBasics.pdf

Natural gas is moved through pipelines as a result of a series of compressors creating pressure differentials – the gas flows from an area of high pressure to an area of relatively lower pressure. Compressors
are powered by electric or natural gas fired engines that compress or squeeze incoming gas and push it
out at a higher pressure. As one would expect compressor stations for large transmission lines are much
bigger than the compressors used to move the gas through the small distribution lines to our homes.
Some gathering systems do not need compressors because the pressure of the gas coming out of the
wells is enough to move the gas through the gathering lines.
Natural gas is compressed in transmission pipelines to pressures typically ranging from 500 to 1400
pounds of pressure per square inch. Compressor stations on transmission pipelines are generally built
every 50 to 100 miles along the length of a transmission pipeline, allowing pressure to be increased as
needed to keep the gas moving. Some gas transmission pipelines are bi-directional meaning gas can
be coming from both ends of the pipeline, and depending on where gas is removed and where the
compressors create the pressure differential, gas may flow either direction. One example is William’s
Northwest Pipeline that comes past us here in Bellingham. It accepts gas from Canada to the north
and from the Rocky Mountain region to the south. These bi-directional pipelines boast of greater flexibility in both supply and price to customers.

Restaurant owner gets revenge on mask nazis:

https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/victoria-taft/2021/05/16/diner-owner-sublimely-turns-tables-on-snitches-to-covid-hotline-we-deserve-to-know-who-we-can-trust-n1447271

https://babylonbee.com/news/democrats-wearing-binkies-to-wean-themselves-off-masks

Fun quiz where you guess on the case-rate graph when mask orders went into place in various countries:

https://www.covidchartsquiz.com/

Karloff says

Fun quiz where you guess on the case-rate graph when mask orders went into place in various countries:

https://www.covidchartsquiz.com/

Still convinced masks made it worse. Viral load sticking to your face and the constant touching/adjusting of the mask. Really don't think there's a counter argument. The graphs in that quiz prove as much once you get past the high UV period (summer) in the countries listed.

ThreeBays says

So now that mask mandates are gone and the guidance is wear a mask if you're not fully vaccinated, people will go around shops and restaurants maskless, pretending to have been vaccinated, i.e. act like scum against society.

One wonders what CDC's game plan was here. Perhaps they are waiting for large breakouts in communities of unvaccinated Trumpists, so they can then turn around and say "get your vaxxes or mask up you fucking cunts!".

Or, perhaps Fauci got caught creating this virus and needed a massive diversion.

WookieMan says

Karloff says

Fun quiz where you guess on the case-rate graph when mask orders went into place in various countries:

https://www.covidchartsquiz.com/

Still convinced masks made it worse. Viral load sticking to your face and the constant touching/adjusting of the mask. Really don't think there's a counter argument. The graphs in that quiz prove as much once you get past the high UV period (summer) in the countries listed.

Masks definitely make your overall well being worse, no matter whether they filter any covid at all or not.

Fauci created the virus in Wuhan, via Peter Daszak and the "Bat-lady".

The motive was obviously power and profit. Maybe also simple hubris.

Masks were always bullshit, helpful for instilling fear and then giving people a motive to get a very profitable but dangerous injection.

Went shopping in WalMart without a mask. Felt great, but very few went maskless. At least at work half aren't wearing masks any more.
You are supposed to wear the mask if you are not vaxxed, but according to the email, you aren't allowed to ask if anyone is, are so for the purposes of masking, I identify as vaccinated. I am relatively new so nobody is going to know any better. The GF loves working from home, and is going to use that as an excuse to continue doing that as long as she can get away with it.

Booger says

I identify as vaccinated.

lol!!!!! That's awesome. Not sure if original, but funny a fuck either way. I do too. Ain't touching any of that shit.

mell says

Masks definitely make your overall well being worse, no matter whether they filter any covid at all or not.

Love the confidence with which you spew non-factual information. Masks may work, they may not... but for 99% of people they are harmless if used properly. Nurses and doctors and fast food workers would all be epidemically sick from prolonged mask wearing. Unless you count some facial acne and sore ears from a tight mask... I’ll give you that much.

BoomAndBustCycle says

mell says

Masks definitely make your overall well being worse, no matter whether they filter any covid at all or not.

Love the confidence with which you spew non-factual information.

Look at any graph of cases of any country that mandated masks. Report back. You'll be surprised.

There are side effects of wearing them too long as well. Raises my BP for sure and anxiety as an anecdotal fact. Who knows what else. We've never studied massive amounts of people wearing masks for long periods of time. You're not on the high ground on this one.

You also presented no factual information yourself. I've barely worn a mask this whole pandemic and I'm not dead. I'll go with that.

People are dropping like flies here in Florida. They have carts with a guy yelling "Bring outcha dead, Bring Outcha dead".

Seriously. I again went shopping today at Publix, maskless. Half of the population is still wearing masks, but Orange is a Blue County in a Red State, so a lot of it is virtue signalling. The local authorities have mask mandates, but they are utterly toothless since any and all fines and punishments have been invalidated by DeSantis.

They still have the stupid table at the front and a box of masks, I've never seen it staffed at any hour in 2 trips I've made in the past 5 days, about 10AM and 9PM, FWIW.

If we ever return to a normal America, kids will ask their parents decades from now "How did this happen? Why did people believe all this stuff" and they won't be able to understand the level of propaganda blasted out from Mass Media (if it still exists), Government, Corps, etc.

Oh, and every Mask Karen will claim to have been a COVID Skeptic and never part of it. Just like the tens of thousands of Prison Camp guards in the USSR or Nazi Germany only worked in the motor pool the whole war. Who me? I shoveled shit in Lvov, then I got a job at Ford in Ohio.

BoomAndBustCycle says

mell says

Masks definitely make your overall well being worse, no matter whether they filter any covid at all or not.

Love the confidence with which you spew non-factual information. Masks may work, they may not... but for 99% of people they are harmless if used properly. Nurses and doctors and fast food workers would all be epidemically sick from prolonged mask wearing. Unless you count some facial acne and sore ears from a tight mask... I’ll give you that much.

I'm not sure what there is to debate when you see an otherwise healthy young track and fielder collapse (for the first time) after the race with a mask on (for the first time). Most can't run with a mask on, for those who can it can't be healthy. People in certain professions have to wear a mask, but it's usually for a short duration with ample of break time in between. Most fast food places the workers can take their masks off unless they are handling food in very close proximity to their mouth. Surgeons and nurses wear masks during surgery and when visiting certain patients, but never in between. Some workers have to do that when working with or disposing of hazardous substances. All of these people have learned to do it properly for their professions and to take it off as soon as possible. Bottom line is wearing masks reduces your oxygen intake, increases your co2 intake, and builds up all sort of fomite points for bacteria, fungi, and viruses to thrive on. And 80% of those wearing masks don't know anything about proper use and maximum times. Wearing a mask every day for a prolonged time will shorten your lifespan on average, no doubt about it. Do it if you're sick and absolutely have to go out and mingle with others or if you're dealing with hazardous materials. Otherwise, never wear a mask unless your going to an eyes-wide-shut style party. It's not good for you.

https://notthebee.com/article/congressman-swalwell-goes-full-beta-male-shrieking-hysterically-at-staffer-who-suggested-swalwell-didnt-have-to-wear-his-mask-anymore

Swalwell gave his non-socially distanced defense of mask-wearing when Nick Dyer, a spokesman for Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-Ga.), said to him, "Biden says you can take off your mask."

It's not like the staffer said something really offensive, like, "Biden says you don't have to sleep with Chinese spies anymore" (they have that covered), he was simply making a public service announcement, informing the congressman of the latest science.

You'd think he'd appreciate that.

The Democrat marched over to Dyer and shouted at him, "You don't tell me what to f—ing do!," according to an account that Dyer gave to reporter Scott Wong of The Hill, who watched the confrontation but could not hear Swalwell's words.

Exactly. Only Eric Swalwell gets to tell you what to do:

As far as Swalwell was concerned, he was the victim of a terrorist attack:

"I just frankly had enough with these marauding goons in the Marjorie Taylor Greene crowd who go around trying to terrorize my colleagues."

I picture the halls of congress overrun with Marjorie Taylor Greene goons shouting terrorist slogans many of which bear a remarkable resemblance to the latest CDC guidance.

Swalwell later remarked with the misplaced satisfaction of the impotent:

"Not surprisingly this aide of hers got quite speechless."

Because that's what you do around crazy people.

Swalwell noted that the House physician recommends that the most thoroughly tested and vaccinated people on the planet must continue to wear masks, but in fact, a far higher medical authority is making that call:

Nancy Pelosi is keeping a mask mandate on the House floor despite CDC guidance and pushback from Republicans

https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/shopping/2021/05/14/mask-mandate-stores-change-fully-vaccinated-cdc-no-masks-indoors/5102169001/

No masks for vaccinated customers
Some exceptions apply, including in states and cities that have local mandates.

Aldi
Best Buy
BJ's Wholesale Club
Costco
CVS
Home Depot
Kohl's
Lowe's (Starting Wednesday, May 19)
Macy's
Meijer
Publix
Sam's Club
Sprouts
Target
Trader Joe's
Walmart

OK, I'll go to these places above any that have mask requirements.

https://spectator.us/topic/strange-theater-mask-wearing/

... the case for masks making a better than negligible difference to the spread of COVID-19 has always been crap. ... . Mask mandates were initially justified by fairytale computer modeling. But we now have hard evidence in the real world, where there’s been no clear correlation between masking and infection rates, hospitalizations or COVID deaths. In country after country and state after American state, graphs of all these metrics vividly demonstrate that the introduction of mask mandates has had no effect. After these laws are passed, those graph lines don’t ripple, notch or slump. The only slight correlation, which I’m willing to dismiss as a fluke? Masked populations have worse COVID results. A study of demographically comparable groups in super-compliant Denmark also found no significant difference in COVID metrics between those who were told to wear masks and those who weren’t. The whole masking theatre amounts to pointless, gesturing obeisance.
What explains this perverse attachment to self-smothering? In the US, masks are a badge of tribal allegiance — Biden/Harris T-shirts that you tie around your face. They confer virtue and dedication to communitarian suffering. They create the illusion of control (‘I can’t get sick! I’m wearing a MASK!’). They provide the happy opportunity to denounce the recalcitrant and to force the begrudging to do something they dislike. ...

Ubiquitous masking also perpetuates the atmosphere of emergency to which some people have grown addicted. ‘Look, we live in a special, perilous time, and we obey strict protocols with heightened moral urgency.’ The prospect of relinquishing this exhilarating sense of the exceptional could seem deflating.

It’s a cliché now that masks have become a religious symbol. The very poverty of the scientific evidence for their efficacy may help explain the fervidness of their adoption. Masking is not a matter of knowledge but faith — or superstition. One masks to ward off evil. Post-pandemic, a goodly number of folks will still cling to their polypropylene nosebags like rabbits’ feet.

But masking while fully vaccinated entails a baffling contradiction. We’re simultaneously to believe: 1) everyone must get vaccinated; 2) vaccines don’t work. Wrap your head round that. Because if your vaccination overwhelmingly prevents both transmission and disease (meaning it works), even unvaccinated people present no danger to you. So you don’t socially distance. You go to restaurants. You see your friends. And you don’t wear a mask. Yet, bizarrely, in surveys vaccinated Americans express far less willingness than the unvaccinated to resume once-normal activities like hopping on a bus, often by a factor of two. Calling that ‘cognitive dissonance’ may be too generous. Let’s go for ‘state-induced mass hysteria’ instead.

I think it makes sense that the the vaxers and maskers are the same people. The same psychotic level of fear drives both - not fear of the virus, which everyone should realize is trivial at this point - but fear of being classified as someone who does not conform.