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Who exactly is pulling the strings?

By Patrick follow Patrick   2021 May 15, 8:29pm 2,751 views   163 comments   watch   nsfw   quote   share      


OK, as soon as it starts to become apparent to everyone that Fauci is responsible for creating the CCP/Wuhan virus then suddenly the whole world is dropping mask mandates.

WTF?

How can global policy and media across the world be so coordinated?

Kind of makes one tempted to believe in "conspiracy theories".

I really do think there is a cabal of billionaires who own the media and the government and which shifts course when things start to get hot, like right now. They are not "the Jews" but a collection of billionaires from many countries. Many of them are Jewish, but many are not.

Can we identify them by name? Bezos and Gates for sure, but what are the other names? I would especially like to know the names of the ones that desperately want to remain hidden. Klaus Schwab? Top leaders in China like Xi Jinping?






https://scholar.princeton.edu/sites/default/files/mgilens/files/gilens_and_page_2014_-testing_theories_of_american_politics.doc.pdf?source=patrick.net


Multivariate analysis indicates that economic elites and organized groups representing business interests have substantial
independent impacts on U.S. government policy, while average citizens and mass-based interest groups have little or no
independent influence.

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124   richwicks   ignore (3)   2022 Feb 21, 10:21am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote          

Patrick says
Shadowy far-left groups are behind the effort to silence Joe Rogan


I hate this term "far left".

These people aren't leftists, they are authoritarians. Our government is trying to silence Joe Rogan. This is an astro-turf campaign.

If the vaccines save lives, I guarantee the people that believe that don't give a fuck if people don't take them. "Fuck the conspiracy-theorists" is what they would think.

These people, I think, are just a bunch people doing PR. Do you really think Neil Young feels so fucking strong about this, that he publicly spoke about it? He was ASKED to this, and was probably paid.

Nobody seriously gives a shit about this. Calls for censorship originate almost entirely from our government.
125   HeadSet   ignore (2)   2022 Feb 21, 11:49am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote          

richwicks says
I hate this term "far left".

These people aren't leftists, they are authoritarians.

Leftists are Communists, Nazis, Democratic Socialists and so on. Please tell us about any leftist that is not authoritarian.
126   richwicks   ignore (3)   2022 Feb 21, 11:59am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote          

HeadSet says
Leftists are Communists, Nazis, Democratic Socialists and so on. Please tell us about any leftist that is not authoritarian.


George Washington wasn't.

Depends on how you define "left". Today, the terms "left" and "right" are meaningless. A leftist in 1960 is entirely different from a leftist in 2020. They share almost no commonality at all.
127   mell   ignore (6)   2022 Feb 21, 12:34pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote          

richwicks says
Patrick says
Shadowy far-left groups are behind the effort to silence Joe Rogan


I hate this term "far left".

These people aren't leftists, they are authoritarians. Our government is trying to silence Joe Rogan. This is an astro-turf campaign.

If the vaccines save lives, I guarantee the people that believe that don't give a fuck if people don't take them. "Fuck the conspiracy-theorists" is what they would think.

These people, I think, are just a bunch people doing PR. Do you really think Neil Young feels so fucking strong about this, that he publicly spoke about it? He was ASKED to this, and was probably paid.

Nobody seriously gives a shit about this. Calls for censorship originate almost entirely from our government.


Name one far-left regime/group that wasn't authoritarian end ultimately evil to the core. There aren't any, the closest you can come to is maybe the hippie movement, but they weren't really much political at all. On the right spectrum you have all sorts, from authoritarian to extremely libertarian regimes/groups. Sure the terms have been muddied and may not be that exact anymore, but it's simply innate to the leftist idea to heavily engage in groupthink and thus rather sooner than later morph into a dictatorship.
128   richwicks   ignore (3)   2022 Feb 21, 12:45pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote          

mell says

Name one far-left regime/group that wasn't authoritarian end ultimately evil to the core.


Define what is "left" and "right"?

The concept didn't exist in 1776, but at ONE TIME, the people that withdrew from the British would have been considered "far left". Abraham Lincoln and the Republican party would have been considered "far left" - because they advocated for change.
129   RedStar   ignore (0)   2022 Feb 21, 12:51pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote          

The current far left movement wants government control of everything- the economy, production, media, personal liberties (the lack of) so it is ultimately an authoritarian philosophy by definition.
130   mell   ignore (6)   2022 Feb 21, 12:55pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote          

richwicks says
mell says

Name one far-left regime/group that wasn't authoritarian end ultimately evil to the core.


Define what is "left" and "right"?

The concept didn't exist in 1776, but at ONE TIME, the people that withdrew from the British would have been considered "far left". Abraham Lincoln and the Republican party would have been considered "far left" - because they advocated for change.


Being conservative doesn't necessary mean not advocating for change, because often in order to keep a status quo one deems favorable, you have to make changes to meet the challenges and forces which try to get rid of it. Pretty much any mass murdering regime in history I consider left. The right has been to coerce groupthink via certain tools as well, such as fake patriotism ("if you're not with us you're with the enemy) or religion, but they have never been very successful at it as what is considered the right is splintered into way too many groups, of which many celebrate individualism and extremely small tribalism/municipal communities, there are so many religious denominations and fake patriotism has now been completely captured by the left. I agree it hasn't always been that way, but at least since our lifetimes.
132   Patrick   ignore (0)   2022 Feb 21, 2:08pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote          

https://t.me/greatreject/30959?source=patrick.net

Schwab: "Our teams are embedded in governments around the world."
133   Patrick   ignore (0)   2022 Feb 21, 2:15pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote          

https://www.informedchoiceaustralia.com/post/wef-and-their-young-global-leaders-program?source=patrick.net


Dec 8, 2021
WEF and their 'Young Global Leaders' program, who's on the list?
The WEF's tentacles reach far and wide, positioning their grip on many industries, media and governments through their Young Global Leaders program.
135   Undoctored   ignore (0)   2022 Feb 21, 4:27pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote          

I think all the real puppeteers are still behind the curtain. Gates, Fauci and the like are bad actors only in the plain sense of the phrase. Just not convincing as either visionaries or evil geniuses.

Let’s face it, to control what’s going on here must take some serious intelligence, not just competence in spouting technical or medical jargon. It should be obvious that our nominal President isn’t really making any real decisions or even setting policy. All the other so-called leaders on politics and business strike me also simply as front men, figureheads.

Who is really pulling the strings? I just get the feeling that they must be really hiding because what the apparent leaders are doing does not make sense. I just don’t see how they personally benefit from what they’re doing to the world at large. If they genuinely think they’re helping the people of the world with these life-crushing measures then again, they’re too stupid to be the real leaders.

True it does seem some of the lower level bureaucrats and “health officers” seem to get a thrill out of pushing others around, but I submit that that motivation alone will never get you to the top, and that kind of personality in any case always defers to someone up higher who is making the rules they just have no choice but to enforce. I don’t think that kind of personality is capable of being a real leader or planner.
137   HeadSet   ignore (2)   2022 Feb 21, 6:58pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote          

richwicks says
The concept didn't exist in 1776, but at ONE TIME, the people that withdrew from the British would have been considered "far left". Abraham Lincoln and the Republican party would have been considered "far left" - because they advocated for change.

"Advocating for change" has NOTHING to do with the spectrum of left and right. It seems you are thinking of the literal meaning of "conservative" defined as leaving things as they are, so you consider anyone who wants change as "left." If I am a right-wing small government citizen living under an all controlling government, I will advocate for change. Likewise, a left-wing big government guy would advocate for change when living under a weak government. And an atheist would advocate for change when living under a theocracy. Advocating for change does not make them "left-wing." What makes one "left wing" is a belief in strong government while a "right-wing" is one who prefers minimum government. "Far left" would be an authoritarian Communist who believes government should own all property and control all aspects of life. "Far right" would be an Anarchist who wants no government at all, not even to tell him what side of the road to drive on.

Here is my way of looking at it:

Government limiting and controlling citizens is "Left"
Citizens limiting and controlling government is "Right."

Right wing types want to be left alone. Left wing types want to use government police power to impose their will on fellow citizens.
138   richwicks   ignore (3)   2022 Feb 21, 7:13pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote          

mell says

Being conservative doesn't necessary mean not advocating for change, because often in order to keep a status quo one deems favorable, you have to make changes to meet the challenges and forces which try to get rid of it.


Do you think the old European feudal system was left or right? Basically the RCC was the head of state, it was basically the diminished Roman Empire with the Vatican at the head.

The United States wouldn't have been settled if that system didn't suck. The Inquisition chiefly targeted Jewish people. It probably wiped out the Druids and other pagan societies and religion, either by forcible conversion or just murder.

I would argue the feudal system was an example of fascism and I wouldn't call the Nazi regime "left" NOR would I call it "right". Hitler simply said it was a 3rd way. I think the line from left and right is kind of silly. Even the simple map of up and down (authoritarian versus individual freedom) is far too simplified. I think it's an N dimensional graph.

mell says
The right has been to coerce groupthink via certain tools as well, such as fake patriotism ("if you're not with us you're with the enemy) or religion, but they have never been very successful at it


The feudal system kept Europe in a dark age of development for over a century and it was the Church that did it.
139   richwicks   ignore (3)   2022 Feb 21, 7:16pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote          

HeadSet says
"Advocating for change" has NOTHING to do with the spectrum of left and right. It seems you are thinking of the literal meaning of "conservative" defined as leaving things as they are, so you consider anyone who wants change as "left." If I am a right-wing small government citizen living under an all controlling government, I will advocate for change. Likewise, a left-wing big government guy would advocate for change when living under a weak government.


This is my objection to the concept of "left" and "right". It means different things to different people.

I can reasonable call myself a liberal - but a PALEO liberal now since the definition is constantly changing. A liberal at one point was almost a libertarian. I can reasonably be considered a conservative today, just because the democratic party (which is considered left today) is basically nuts.
140   AmericanKulak   ignore (1)   2022 Feb 21, 7:29pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote          

Patrick says
https://www.informedchoiceaustralia.com/post/wef-and-their-young-global-leaders-program?source=patrick.net


Dec 8, 2021
WEF and their 'Young Global Leaders' program, who's on the list?
The WEF's tentacles reach far and wide, positioning their grip on many industries, media and governments through their Young Global Leaders program.


CHY-na.

I don't think there's too much mystery about who. Soros, Schwab, and many, many thousands of Corp-Gov revolving door Admins/Execs.

The culture of "Managers, not Leaders" has produced an elite. Great Wealth and a here-to-fore sleepy public has given them an Attitude Problem, and they invite the next 10% to join them.
141   HeadSet   ignore (2)   2022 Feb 21, 7:35pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote          

richwicks says
I can reasonable call myself a liberal - but a PALEO liberal now since the definition is constantly changing.

"Liberal" is one that believes in liberty, it is in the name. Lefties are not Liberals, and Lefties calling themselves Liberals is akin to a castrated and mutilated man calling himself a woman. "Liberal" just sounds better than "Autocratic Authoritarian."


richwicks says
This is my objection to the concept of "left" and "right". It means different things to different people.

The definition has not really changed. People want to obfuscate the real meanings in order to disguise what their philosophies actually entail. For example, lefties calling Nazis "right-wing" to hide the reality of just how close Communism and Naziism really are.
142   AmericanKulak   ignore (1)   2022 Feb 21, 7:44pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote          

Important WEF Politician List, Canada Focused:



WEF members if significance have pages on the WEF forum. Here is a list of Canadian related ones, and I am sure it is the same in every country on Earth. They have infiltrated everything, and probably promote other WEF members into positions of importance.

This was built right under our noses. It is so extensive it is like stage four cancer.

Update 1: https://patriots.win/p/141ra5FSqL/powerfularchbishop-viganos-imp/c/?source=patrick.net watch this inspiring message, the archbishop mentions the WEF. Also added more lists of WEF members by region in the comments.

Update2: The number of WEF members at the UN is obscene (e.g. close to a thousand). The WEF / UN no doubt have similar objectives. I was going to make a list, but don't have the patience right now.

Update 3: https://patriots.win/p/141reoAPPm/blatant-government-corruption-by/c/?source=patrick.net When asked which members were associated with the WEF, they said DISINFORMATION. Liars and total corruption. We are over target.

Update 4 PIERRE POILIEVRE added

Update 5 Added the Ministry of Truth network https://patriots.win/p/141rjTidGc/?source=patrick.net

https://www.weforum.org/people/chrystia-freeland?source=patrick.net Deputy Prime Minister and Minister of Finance, Office of the Deputy Prime Minister of Canada

https://www.weforum.org/people/justin-trudeau?source=patrick.net Fidel's son

https://www.weforum.org/people/stephen-harper?source=patrick.net former prime minister

https://www.weforum.org/people/andrew-scheer?source=patrick.net Leader, Conservative Party of Canada (the opposition)

https://www.weforum.org/people/melanie-joly?source=patrick.net Minister of Foreign Affairs, Global Affairs Canada

https://www.weforum.org/people/navdeep-bains?source=patrick.net Member of Parliament, Parliament of Canada

https://www.weforum.org/people/marc-kielburger?source=patrick.net Co-Founder, Free the Children

https://www.weforum.org/people/william-francis-morneau?source=patrick.net Pension Investment Adviser to Ontario's Minister of Finance

https://www.weforum.org/people/mark-wiseman?source=patrick.net Mark was President & CEO of the Canada Pension Plan Investment Board (CPPIB

https://www.weforum.org/people/james-moore?source=patrick.net Chancellor, University of Northern British Columbia

https://www.weforum.org/people/michael-sabia?source=patrick.net President and Chief Executive Officer, Caisse de dépôt et placement du Québec (CDPQ)

https://www.weforum.org/people/kevin-lynch?source=patrick.net Thirty-three years with the Government of Canada, including: Clerk of the Privy Council; Secretary to the Cabinet; Head of the Public Service of Canada; Deputy Minister of Finance and of Industry. Executive Director, IMF. Currently, Vice-Chairman, BMO Financial Group

https://www.weforum.org/people/carmen-sorger?source=patrick.net Director, International Assistance Relations, Global Affairs Canada

https://www.weforum.org/people/catherine-mckenna?source=patrick.net Minister of Infrastructure and Communities of Canada (2015-2019)

https://www.weforum.org/people/brad-wall?source=patrick.net Premier of Saskatchewan, Government of Saskatchewan

https://www.weforum.org/people/peter-van-loan/?source=patrick.net Minister of Intergovernmental Affairs and Minister for Sport; 2007, Leader of the Government, House of Commons and Minister for Democratic Reform; 2008, Minister of Public Safety.

https://www.weforum.org/people/rona-ambrose?source=patrick.net Leader of the Official Opposition, Parliament of Canada

https://www.weforum.org/people/maya-roy?source=patrick.net Chief Executive Officer, YWCA Canada

https://www.weforum.org/people/elissa-golberg?source=patrick.net Assistant Deputy Minister for Strategic Policy, Global Affairs Canada

https://www.weforum.org/people/renee-maria-tremblay?source=patrick.net Senior Counsel, Supreme Court of Canada

https://www.weforum.org/people/ailish-campbell?source=patrick.net Ambassador of Canada to the European Union, Global Affairs Canada

https://www.weforum.org/people/giovanna-mingarelli?source=patrick.net Has contributed to: Harvard Business Review, CBC Radio-Canada, The Globe and Mail, The Toronto Star and the Hill Times. Regular contributor to the Huffington Post.

https://www.weforum.org/people/robert-greenhill?source=patrick.net Founder, Global Canada

https://www.weforum.org/people/leslie-norton?source=patrick.net Ambassador and Permanent Representative, Permanent Mission of Canada

https://www.weforum.org/people/terry-beech?source=patrick.net Member of Parliament; Parliamentary Secretary, Department of Fisheries, Oceans and the Canadian Coast Guard, Parliament of Canada

https://www.weforum.org/people/marc-andre-blanchard?source=patrick.net Executive Vice-President; Head, CDPQ Global, Caisse de dépôt et placement du Québec (CDPQ)

https://www.weforum.org/people/rasha-al-katta?source=patrick.net She previously served at the Centre for Global and Community Engagement, Canada’s Permanent Mission to the Office of the United Nations in Geneva, and Global Affairs Canada.

https://www.weforum.org/people/ratna-omidvar?source=patrick.net Senator, Senate of Canada

https://www.weforum.org/people/desiree-mcgraw?source=patrick.net McGraw was Senior Policy Advisor to Canada's Minister of International Cooperation and the Prime Minister of Canada.

https://www.weforum.org/people/benjamin-fung?source=patrick.net Benjamin Fung is a Canada Research Chair in Data Mining for Cybersecurity, a Full Professor in the School of Information Studies (SIS), and an Associate Member in the School of Computer Science (SOCS) at McGill University.

https://www.weforum.org/people/heather-munroe-blum?source=patrick.net Committee on University Research; Canada Pension Plan Investment Board;

https://www.weforum.org/people/john-manley?source=patrick.net President and Chief Executive Officer, Business Council of Canada

https://www.weforum.org/people/marie-claude-bibeau?source=patrick.net Minister of Agriculture and Agri-food, Agriculture and Agri-Food Canada

https://www.weforum.org/people/indira-v-samarasekera?source=patrick.net President, University of Alberta

https://www.weforum.org/people/mary-deacon?source=patrick.net Chair, Bell Mental Health Initiative, Bell Canada International

https://www.weforum.org/people/christian-paradis?source=patrick.net Director, Canada World Youth

https://www.weforum.org/people/maria-bartiromo?source=patrick.net Anchor and Global Markets Editor, Fox Business Network

https://www.weforum.org/people/clement-gignac?source=patrick.net Official Canadian delegate for G20 workgroup, Dept of Finance, Canada. 2009-12, Minister for Economic Development and Innovation of Quebec, and Minister of Natural Resources.

https://www.weforum.org/people/david-juncker?source=patrick.net HIS PAGE WAS DELETED -- did he defect?

https://www.weforum.org/people/karina-gould?source=patrick.net Minister of Families, Children and Social Development, Employment and Social Development Canada

https://www.weforum.org/people/fred-ninh?source=patrick.net Global Shaper, Ottawa Hub WTF?

https://www.weforum.org/people/catherine-potvin?source=patrick.net Canada Research Chair in Climate Change Mitigation and Tropical Forests, McGill University

https://www.weforum.org/people/philippe-couillard?source=patrick.net Premier of Quebec, Government of Quebec

https://www.weforum.org/people/meghan-watkinson?source=patrick.net Director Governance, Global Issues and Development, Global Affairs Canada

https://www.weforum.org/people/yi-hsin-cathy-chen?source=patrick.net Global Shaper, Vancouver Hub

https://www.weforum.org/people/samantha-nutt?source=patrick.net Founder and Executive Director, War Child Canada

https://www.weforum.org/people/steve-williams?source=patrick.net President and Chief Executive Officer, Suncor Energy Inc.

PIERRE POILIEVRE!!! Deleted from the WEB site but found in archives ... Pierre Marcel Poilievre PC MP is a Canadian politician who has served as a member of Parliament since 2004. A member of the Conservative Party, he currently represents the Ottawa-area riding of Carleton. https://web.archive.org/web/20210401060525/https://www.weforum.org/people/pierre-poilievre?source=patrick.net


https://patriots.win/p/141rVT7njF/klaus-schwab-had-built-a-world-g/?source=patrick.net
143   Patrick   ignore (0)   2022 Feb 23, 8:02pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote          

https://hwfo.substack.com/p/memespace-egregores-and-maajid-nawaz?source=patrick.net


In the digital world, all our exposure to reality is migrating into the pseudo-reality of the smartphone world instead of the real world. Nawaz obviously gets this. In the smartphone world, humans outsource any number of brain processes, from scheduling to road navigation to morality itself to our phones. Nawaz seems to get most of that too.

In the currency of clicks, all media gets paid by its traffic, which means anything they can do to incite panic and fear becomes “true.” I’m not sure Nawaz fully understands the true depth of this problem. He thinks, probably correctly, that the CIA or MI5 or other government institutions are using the postmodernity of online life to propagate false pictures of the world. He doesn’t seem to get that this happens with or without a central coordinated effort by existing power. If our governments wanted us to see a true thing, but the true thing wouldn’t get clicks, then our smartphones wouldn’t tell us the true thing. They would tell us the clickbait thing, and we would spread the clickbait thing around the government’s intervention. The media business model to drive traffic is more powerful in this smartphone space than governments are, or intelligence agencies, or any centralized cabal. Error one.

Bureaucracy is the actual government, not the elected officials, and the officials have almost no control over what the government does. Nawaz clearly gets this, from his experience trying to steer the USA’s behavior towards something positive during the war on terror. But then he immediately forgets it when he alludes to the WEF installing its indoctrinates into cabinets and positions of political power. These are installed in what Moldbug calls “the show,” not the true seat of power. The true seat of government power are the low and mid-level clock punchers that Nawaz could never turn in his time as an anti-war activist. In order to get all these low and mid-level clock punchers to all adopt the same behaviors, you wouldn’t need a centralized conspiracy to which they all proscribe, you would need a vast, pseudoreligious indoctrination program wherein their beliefs are code checked daily against their peers. That in fact is probably why Nawaz’s anti-war efforts failed. Error two.

In Nawaz’s formulation, a conspiratorial cabal influences government, the government influences both policy and the media, and then policy and the media influences individual behavior (such as masks). This is wrong, because the low and mid-level clock punchers are not beholden to the cabal. They are beholden to their smartphones. And their smartphones are beholden to the media, which in turn are beholden to the pay per click traffic incentive, which is derived by feeding an echo chamber what it wants to hear. The groupthink entity at the bottom of the echo chamber is the actual power. The egregore.

Put simply, it’s not the government manipulating the media, it’s the media manipulating the government, and the egregores manipulate the media because they are the tail that wags the dog. The bureaucracy controls the policy, the elected officials go along so as not to anger the egregore, and the control of individual behavior (such as masks) flows from that. Let’s visualize this.




... I’ve been maintaining a running score card of the machinations of the Covid Egregore for years on Twitter, and this is the current snapshot on February 23rd, 2022:




... I was pointed by a reader to a piece by Paul Kingsnorth, “The Vaccine Moment,” where he makes a very similar case to Nawaz. He gets closer to the truth than Nawaz with this passage:

"But though Schwab and the WEF’s power and influence should not be underplayed, he is not pulling the strings. There are no strings: there is only the Machine, and its direction of travel is long-set."

The archetyping of societies as machines is not new nor original, and the reduction of the concept of “the egregore” to just “society” strips it of its analytical value. An egregore is a new thing. It’s a set of behavioral indoctrination principles stored not in a book, but on the feed, which can change year by year or day by day to adapt to different environments, its chief goal being to propagate itself into as much of the available human brain space as possible. It’s not just a religion, it’s a religion with service packs pushed out on Twitter daily. It’s a religion that behaves as if it thinks. ...

Does the Pope control Christianity? No. Christianity controls the Pope. But Christianity changes very slowly and is not beholden to a daily freakoutery click count to maintain its revenue. The groupthink entities comprised by social network echo chambers control the media they consume, which controls their version of the world, which then controls everyone’s behavior captured by them. Can I prove this? Yes. If this were true, each side of the Covid debate would think the other side is gaslit. ...

Each side thinks the other is gaslit.

This problem is deeper than Covid, and it’s not going away. It’s only going to get worse with each successive thing the media organism tries to freak out about. If not for Covid we may have had a nationwide schism over gun control in 2020 – it certainly looked that way in January in Richmond. We may still get that. We may get Nawaz’s prediction, that the coastal virtual elites are going to run a WEF social credit scheme against the rural reality proles and we get our war that way. It could be flat earthers vs round earthers, or a nationwide violent conflict over whether birds are or aren’t real. There’s no way to say what it will be. Because these egregores, in so much as they may be thinking, are thinking one level up from humans and the humans are enacting their will without resistance.


Huh, so it's all just memes propagating themselves?

Even if so, there are real harms to fight against, like the suppression of Constitutional rights, bank account confiscation, and mandatory injections with dangerous experiments.
146   richwicks   ignore (3)   2022 Feb 26, 9:36pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote          

Patrick says
In the digital world, all our exposure to reality is migrating into the pseudo-reality of the smartphone world instead of the real world. Nawaz obviously gets this. In the smartphone world, humans outsource any number of brain processes, from scheduling to road navigation to morality itself to our phones. Nawaz seems to get most of that too.


@Patrick - do you really think the Internet is making people slaves more than we once were, or do you think it's liberating humanity?

We would not have censorship if information wasn't challenging our obviously corrupt establishment. Youtube wouldn't be pushing propaganda, Twitter wouldn't be deplatforming people, Facebook wouldn't have "fact" checkers.

Much is said about how the Internet is making people dumber, I think THIS is propaganda. There is NO WAY I could have known as much about the world as I do now without the Internet. I'd be that guy with a bunch of pictures plastered to my wall with thumbtacks and string connecting them if I was 50 in 1980 and although I would SUSPECT I couldn't know. I'd be stopped as FEELING these guy was connected to this other guy. Now I can know they are connected.

It still takes quite a bit of work to understand the mechanics of the world, but it's now doable. It took superhuman efforts to do 40 years ago.

Sure, DUMB people offload their thinking to the Internet today entirely - these are the same people that offloaded their thinking to newspapers and television news 40 years ago. I think what the internet has done is allow open competition for ideas and knowledge. Smart people aren't necessarily rich, and dumb people aren't necessarily poor. That's become very obvious to me in the last 30 years. We have a power structure, and it's NOT a meritocracy.
147   Patrick   ignore (0)   2022 Feb 26, 9:40pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote          

I think the web is a wonderful thing for the diffusion of knowledge and for letting people who would never have met in person converse with each other.

But I'm not sure smartphones are a good thing.
148   Patrick   ignore (0)   2022 Feb 26, 9:40pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote          

https://tobyrogers.substack.com/p/thinking-points-feb-26-2022?source=patrick.net


Nawaz’s argument, in both the GB News clip and the longer JRE interview, is that new technologies disrupt traditional power hierarchies and that creates conflict as the former gatekeepers try desperately to hold onto power. The invention of the movable-type printing press, by Johannes Gutenberg, enabled the Bible to be printed in German and widely distributed for the first time. This disrupted the power of the State Church (which were one and the same thing) that had formerly claimed a direct line to God and cloaked their power in the Latin Mass that nobody but the high priests understood. The invention of the printing press was followed by war, revolution, and repression by the ruling class throughout much of Europe.

Nawaz argues that the invention of the internet and crypto have disrupted the State’s former monopolies on information and the ability to issue official currency. This has disrupted traditional power hierarchies and is at the root of the crises we face today as the state and the ruling class gatekeepers desperately try to hold onto the two sources of their power — the ability to control the narrative and the issuance of money.

But I want to go one step further with this analysis. What the internet did, over the last twenty years, is allow people to figure out that most of allopathic medicine is snake oil and the vaccine program is, in fact, slow genocide. And what we’ve seen in the Covid crisis is that most bourgeois institutions — the mainstream media, academia, government, the scientific and medical establishment — are mafias within mafias. These people are not smart, they do not know how to solve problems, there is nothing meritocratic about them, their wealth and power stem from creating bottlenecks, monopolies, and cartels, not from wisdom nor innovation.

That’s both the bad news and the good news. The astonishing levels of state/corporate surveillance, censorship, and violence of the last two years are the death throes of a dying regime. But just imagine the human flourishing that will occur once we finally get through this phase and end up on the other side knowing what we know now about the inadequacies of bourgeois institutions and the sanctity of personal sovereignty? I just feel like the scales have fallen from so many eyes and now we are seeing the world, for the first time, as it really is.
149   richwicks   ignore (3)   2022 Feb 26, 9:55pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote          

Patrick says
But I'm not sure smartphones are a good thing.


A smartphone is not a replacement for a keyboard and a monitor for certain. I'd agree with this.

The Internet is a tool, and like any tool, it can be misused but this is a tool like mankind has never seen before. Right now there is a war going on between Russia and Ukraine, and we are seeing propaganda produced, and dismantled in real time.

When I was in college, there were high hopes that this sort of informational exchange would eliminate wars. I still have hope that will happen. I mean, what are the Ukrainians fighting over? The right to join NATO? What does the average Ukrainian soldier give a crap about that? It's just "stay out of our country and leave us alone" - and Russia says they WOULD do that - but the US won't.

I thought in fevered dreams that there might be a cabal that runs the world, but today, it's pretty obvious there is. That's humanity's true enemy and we'll expose it in time. Imagine Klaus Schwab being talked about in 1990? It would have been called "conspiracy theory" back then, and still is today, except we have direct proof.

Still, he's a minion. I wonder who is behind him.

This is a tumultuous time simply because so many people are becoming aware of real reality. A lot of things I suspected might be possible, but I that was too crazy to even voice, we can see them now. I'm happy to know I wasn't crazy at 20 just prescient.

Authorities will try to restrict informational exchange, but the internet was specifically designed to have no central failure point. I really think this system will be impossible to control although I think much of it may go underground. What's different this time, is that it may go underground, but there will never be a single point of attack again.
152   Patrick   ignore (0)   2022 Apr 21, 2:16pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote          

So what? Trump's daughter married a Jewish guy.
153   richwicks   ignore (3)   2022 Apr 21, 2:23pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote          

Patrick says
So what? Trump's daughter married a Jewish guy.


I listen to an interesting guy named Ryan Dawson: https://www.bitchute.com/channel/kCBxN1oEVOa0/?source=patrick.net - in fact, here's the last interesting video I saw with him:


original link


He's on the lower right. Every time he rings a bell, it's to notify you that the person he just mentioned is Jewish.

You're making a false dichotomy, and let me explain your mistake.

* It is not: "The Jews".
* It MIGHT be: "THOSE Jews".

Just like the Mafia was ITALIAN, it was always Italian. They were a racially attacked group, they worked racially. Italian mafia had no problem killing Italians either. Every heard of Murder Incorporated? They were Jewish.

When a Jewish person is caught being a criminal, or a mass murderer, a general scumbag or whatever they scream "antisemitism" - and they are absolutely shameless about it. If you start to ask questions about why Jewish people in positions of power seem to only hire Jewish people in positions of power, they do the same thing. The truth is, there's a lot of Jewish criminals, and Jewish bigots.

You can deny that, and possibly you might be right to do so, but when you start looking into it, the "antisemites" do have a point.
154   Booger   ignore (8)   2022 Apr 21, 5:19pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote          

Patrick says
So what? Trump's daughter married a Jewish guy.


One vs all. Big difference. Plus Trump is from NYC, so that can be attributed to demographics there.
155   Patrick   ignore (0)   2022 Apr 21, 5:24pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote          

But again, so what?

All those Jews are breaking with tradition by marrying non-Jews. It's weakening traditional Judaism. If you don't like Jews, you should be happy about that.
156   AmericanKulak   ignore (1)   2022 Apr 21, 5:47pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote          

richwicks says
When a Jewish person is caught being a criminal, or a mass murderer, a general scumbag or whatever they scream "antisemitism" - and they are absolutely shameless about it. If you start to ask questions about why Jewish people in positions of power seem to only hire Jewish people in positions of power, they do the same thing. The truth is, there's a lot of Jewish criminals, and Jewish bigots.


Yep, but Gates isn't Jewish, neither is Klaus Schwab. Nor are the Big Tech Wives. Nor is McConnell, Nor is Pelosi.

The problem with "pattern seeking" we've seen right here on the board. There are people out there who pull out 5 Jews out of 40-50 staffers, passing over the Armenians, WASPs, Arabs, etc. and then only list the pictures and names of the Jews (and often a few like Schmidt or Schultz who aren't Jewish at all) and say "lookit all the Jews behind this!"

90% of the whole Jew thing, I'd bet $20 on it, is Agency distraction. It serves to create the threat ("White Supremacy") that justifies the budget as well as the political control of media.

The very first thing "Khazarian Mafia" advocates need to explain is the communication and reward mechanism. Where are the emails? Or do they use Jew Telepathy? In all these decades of Jewish dominance, not one email leaked?
157   clambo   ignore (4)   2022 Apr 21, 7:08pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote          

Evidently it’s the Easter Bunny who’s in control now.
158   richwicks   ignore (3)   2022 Apr 21, 7:23pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote          

AmericanKulak says
90% of the whole Jew thing, I'd bet $20 on it, is Agency distraction. It serves to create the threat ("White Supremacy") that justifies the budget as well as the political control of media.


I'm entirely open to that. I've argued that the intelligence agencies are the most vile and evil organizations on earth, filled with vile and evil people.

AmericanKulak says
The very first thing "Khazarian Mafia" advocates need to explain is the communication and reward mechanism. Where are the emails? Or do they use Jew Telepathy? In all these decades of Jewish dominance, not one email leaked?


It wouldn't require direct communication, just shared goals.

If white people just ignored the crimes of white people against everybody EXCEPT for white people, you'd get a similar dynamic. If the rule was "here are all the rules you have to follow, but ONLY when it's a white person you're dealing with - with everybody else, there are no rules and white people will generally protect you if you get caught" - you'll end up with a dynamic. It's said Madoff only got nabbed when he fucked over Jewish people.

I'm not saying that's "how it is" - I'm saying, it's something to consider.

Racism in every group exists.
160   WineHorror1   ignore (1)   2022 May 10, 3:36pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote          

richwicks says
@Patrick @richwicks - do you really think the Internet is making people slaves more than we once were, or do you think it's liberating humanity?

I believe the definitive answer will come if/when humans can be controlled/enslaved by those who control it.
161   Patrick   ignore (0)   2022 May 10, 3:55pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote          

I think it's doing both at the same time. It offers unprecedented ways to spy on people and to censor.

But on the other hand, it offers an unprecedented way for us to communicate directly with each other in spite of the censors.
162   WineHorror1   ignore (1)   2022 May 10, 5:51pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote          

Patrick says

I think it's doing both at the same time. It offers unprecedented ways to spy on people and to censor.

But on the other hand, it offers an unprecedented way for us to communicate directly with each other in spite of the censors.

Yep, and the question is, "which will be dominant"? If the evil ones become dominant, all bets are off on how injurious it could ultimately be. Think social scores and blockchain. We need a physical world, not a virtual one.

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