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HunterTits says

Why?

Why not?

Symbolism has meaning.

"Whoops: 2020 Supreme Court Decision Ruled That States Can Yank Their Electors"
https://www.conservativeworldnews.com/whoops-2020-supreme-court-decision-ruled-that-states-can-yank-their-electors/

Have no idea if this has legs, but unintended consequences of efforts to discredit electors from 2016 by Dems.

HunterTits says

Back in 2000, the Florida State Legislature had a bill all drafted and ready to vote on to do just that had SCOTUS ruled the other way in Bush v. Gore.

If you sign a contract with another party, and that party has committed fraud when entering into the agreement, no court will enforce that contract against you if your try to back out of it...If fraud is proven to have been committed in a presidential election, that act of fraud vitiates the Electoral College votes cast by that state.

No, it does not. Because Electors are chosen via a method of the State Legislature's choosing, not voters (even if that method of choosing punts it to voters). And no contract law is involved here anyway.

Are you saying it's OK to cheat? Or just that there is nothing that can be done about all of the cheating because it's too late? Something else?

I think part of it is that in order to have continuity, the process is a kind of one way street under the presumption that bad government is better than no government under a series of chaotic do's and undo's, which can operate for either side indefinitely. Let the ongoing processes under auspices of aware citizens deal with it over time rather than precipitously have two sides grabbing the rudder away from each other during a storm..

However, as we see with Biden and the Globalists, they are operating under an accelerated timeline to destroy the country. What happens if the 'process' is so lethargic that they are successful and no alternate process is allowed to ever take place again?

I think in times past the diffusion of information was slower, as were the processes of government. What is happening now is unpredictable as to whether 'The People' can pull it back from the precipice.

Ceffer says

"Whoops: 2020 Supreme Court Decision Ruled That States Can Yank Their Electors"
https://www.conservativeworldnews.com/whoops-2020-supreme-court-decision-ruled-that-states-can-yank-their-electors/

Have no idea if this has legs, but unintended consequences of efforts to discredit electors from 2016 by Dems.

Sounds good to me:

We now have dueling opinions floating around in the public square over whether Arizona will be able to decertify its electors after fraud is definitively proven in the forensic audit report. Every media talking head says it can’t happen. The Supreme Court seems to disagree with that opinion in Chiafalo v. Washington. The states have broad, plenary power under the Constitution, specifically in the Ninth and Tenth Amendments, over how they handle their electors.

Here’s another important legal phrase you may have seen tossed around quite a bit the past few months: “Fraud vitiates everything it touches.”

“Vitiates” means to legally destroy something, or to render it null and void. This long-established legal phrase and principle has been used in more than 3,500 court judgments since the 1800s. It means that if fraud is used to perpetuate anything, that thing becomes moot, null, void, unenforceable under the law. If you sign a contract with another party, and that party has committed fraud when entering into the agreement, no court will enforce that contract against you if your try to back out of it.

If fraud is proven to have been committed in a presidential election, that act of fraud vitiates the Electoral College votes cast by that state. Arizona, Pennsylvania, Georgia, Wisconsin, Michigan, Nevada and other states absolutely have authority to recall their electors and force them to faithfully cast new votes for the rightful winner of the 2020 election – or, to simply strip their votes away from the fraudulent candidate who cheated.

Ceffer says

I think part of it is that in order to have continuity, the process is a kind of one way street under the presumption that bad government is better than no government

Are you saying cheating is OK?

Patrick says

simply strip their votes away from the fraudulent candidate who cheated.

Which would mean Trump won and the alphabet agencies are corrupt. Duh!

Civil war.

Onvacation says

Are you saying cheating is OK?

No. I just think the reversibility of elections seems to be frowned upon in general, even with skulduggery. It seems in the past, both sides wound up accepting levels of cheating rather than disrupting the engines of public discourse.

I would love to see the bastards swing myself, I just don't see any precedents for reversing what has happened. Remember, historically both sides have been cheating at one level or another all along. It's the Roman Law idea that corruption is acceptable as long as it does not reach a certain level of heightened public perception. That it has become so audacious, brazen and presumptive is what is shocking. The arrogance of the corruption is appalling, so I think even the skeevy Roman law has been violated at the level of public perception.

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2021/08/28/j-christian-adams-15-million-mail-ballots-unaccounted-for-2020-election/

The president of the Public Interest Legal Foundation (PILF) told Breitbart News Washington political editor Matt Boyle on Sirius XM’s Breitbart News Saturday that 15 million mail ballots were unaccounted for in the 2020 presidential election.

“This is the worst way to run an election, what they did in 2020,” J. Christian Adams, president of PILF, told host Boyle in an interview: “The Election Assistance Commission, which is a federal agency … puts out a report every two years. … One of the things it has … is the number of mail ballots that were sent out, the number of mail ballots that came back, and the number of mail ballots that were straight-up rejected, meaning the election officials said there was a defect.”

“This is not data that we are speculating about,” he added. “This is federal data, and that’s where we get the 15 million number. Fifteen million ballots were sent in the mail last year that never ever came back and were counted” (emphasis added).

Adams said that “some of them, we don’t know where they are, they’re just gone. That tells you the system broke down. That tells you that probably ballots came back that were counted for the wrong people. The whole thing is a mess. It can’t be repeated again. And that’s the problem with mail balloting. We’re giving the idiots at the post office control over our government.”

Onvacation says

When is that Arizona report coming out?

Either after the collapse of the United States or after an Armed revolt.

HunterTits says

As for being totally cynical: The reality of the 2016 elections proves that it sure as fuck PAYS to cheat...esp when using the Electoral College meet & vote deadline to get away with it.

Because above all Americans were desperate for another Neocon cunt warmonger that was obviously corrupt, voted for the Iraq War that Bush lied us into and everybody loved, and basically only got to her position by murdering JFK Junior and being a fucking whore for the establishment.

Yes, that's exactly what the American population wanted as president, another fucking George W. Bush clone, another establishment meat puppet controlled by the military industrial complex.

If you recall, and you probably don't, there was attempts at reviewing the vote by Jill Stein, and it wasn't the REPUBLICANS that resisted this overview, it was the Democrats. Why do you think the DNC was desperate to stop auditing of the 2016 election when that crusty all murdering cunt Clinton LOST the election and only could gain from a review?

It's TRIVIAL to make an honest election system that can easily be reviewed. The reason this isn't done, is we haven't had honest elections in decades.

The reason the intelligence agencies murdered Seth Rich is that he had good evidence that the primary was stolen on behalf of Hillary Clinton. Jesus, what's the point of FOIA releases if you just fucking ignore them?

HunterTits says

No. Because all anyone has to do is fuck things up in a few parts of the country...and keep them fucked up with help from complicit judges and state legislatures...long enough for the EC to vote in mid-December.

I'm saying we COULD have a completely trustworthy and verifiable voting system. This is, from a technical standpoint, possible to do.

But it won't be done, because our government exists ONLY because of the current corruption. Nancy Pelosi, Mitt Romney, John McCain, Maxine Waters - they aren't interested in reform because they most likely, aren't elected.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6DtYAGcxkfw

That mother fucker isn't being elected!

original link

Onvacation says

Patrick says

simply strip their votes away from the fraudulent candidate who cheated.

Which would mean Trump won and the alphabet agencies are corrupt. Duh!

Civil war.

No. Revolution.

Civil war is when there's two or more factions in the country fighting for control.

Revolution is when everybody figures out who the enemy is. Trump did a remarkable job of identifying the enemy. I think that's why he is so hated and reviled by our intelligence agencies, and our propaganda apparatus. He did in just 4 years what I've dreamed of doing for the last 20. He completely destabilized our corrupt establishment. CNN had less than 1 million viewers for every one of their shows for an entire week.

just_passing_through says

Onvacation says

Ran across a masker on the street this morning. I cheerfully said, "good morning".

He glared at me.

It's because you didn't say it correctly. It should have been, "goo morgarble"

Should have said Guten Morgen Hitlerjugend how's following your orders going

Political Power grows out the barrel of a gun.

One thing we do have going for us is that when the propaganda breaks down, where are the Oligarch's guns? Purple Haired Urban Dwelling Avocado Toast eaters are not known for their military service, martial skills, or gun nut behavior. Lumpenproles hold .25 Autos sideways and are more interested in stealing bikes or selling crack; they are less suited for patrolling forest than their ancestors in the Vietnam Era - they don't even hang on the street corners anymore, but get high and game on their Playstations.

There were 550,000 US active troops (+200,000 more down the Pacific Supply Routes) to fight in Vietnam, a country only a third larger than the state of Florida. That's NOT including Ruff Puffs or ARVN.

There are less than 500,000 Active Army Troops, right now. National Guard and Reserves perhaps another 550,000. Total, currently enrolled.

https://georgiastarnews.com/4300-absentee-ballot-votes-counted-in-dekalb-county-2020-election-violated-chain-of-custody-rule.html

43,000 Absentee Ballot Votes Counted in DeKalb County, Georgia 2020 Election Violated Chain of Custody Rule
August 30, 2021 | Laura Baigert


43,907 of the 61,731 absentee ballots deposited in drop boxes in the November 2020 presidential election in DeKalb County, Georgia - 72 percent - were counted in official tallies certified by the county and the state, despite violating chain of custody requirements set forward in Georgia Emergency Rule 183-1-14-1.8-.14 promulgated by the Georgia State Election Board at its July 1, 2020, meeting.

http://www.eip-ca.com/

CALIFORNIA (June 16, 2021) – The Non-Partisan Election Integrity Project® California and 13 congressional candidates intend to take their fight for fair and honest elections in California to the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals.

The plaintiffs in EIPCa, et al. v. Weber, et al. (Central District of California Case No. 2:21-cv-32-AB-MAA) are challenging laws, regulations and election practices that have undermined California election integrity, creating an environment ripe for irregularities. The plaintiffs filed the lawsuit after Election Integrity Project® California collected over 700 sworn affidavits from trained citizen observers which described various irregularities during the fall 2020 general election in California. The complaint also examines how California laws like ballot harvesting, and last-minute changes like privileging vote-by-mail voting over in-person voting, disadvantaged minority groups.

On June 15, 2021, the federal trial court granted defendants’ motions to dismiss the case without ruling on the facts, paving the way for plaintiffs’ appeal to the Ninth Circuit. “This is a potentially groundbreaking case that challenges the blatantly unconstitutional election practices taking place in California and increasingly, in other parts of the country” said Linda Paine, President of Election Integrity Project® California. “Unlike other recent election cases, it is forward looking, seeking to create a fair, honest and transparent election process for all future elections.” Plaintiffs intend to file the notice of appeal within several weeks.

Download pdf of press release here

Questions Surround Irregularities in California’s 2020 Election
Nonpartisan watchdog seeks answers on over 2 million documented registration and voting anomalies.

Patrick says

The Non-Partisan Election Integrity Project® California and 13 congressional candidates intend to take their fight for fair and honest elections in California to the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals.

The recall is within 2 weeks. After the fact, none of these issues will matter. The fix is in.

https://babylonbee.com/news/miracle-ballot-counter-turns-5-votes-for-biden-into-5000

Nov 4th, 2020

DETROIT, MI—In an event Democrats can only describe as miraculous, a ballot counter has turned an offering of only 5 humble ballots into 5,000 votes for Biden. Poll workers and Biden voters are celebrating the miracle which could put Biden over the top in their state.

According to witnesses, a little boy brought 5 absentee ballots into the counting center in the early morning hours after Election Day. Within a few hours, those 5 votes had turned into 5,000. Sources say that Democrat disciples even filled 12 baskets with the leftover ballots.

"It's a miracle," said one election supervisor. "This is irrefutable evidence that God wants Biden to win!"

Officials confirmed this morning that thousands and thousands of additional Biden votes are pouring in from miraculous places. An entire pallet of votes was discovered under a bridge, and thousands more were discovered in an abandoned warehouse.

Further evidence suggests even the elderly have been divinely moved to vote for Biden after it was found that the entire population of every nursing home in the state had voted for the Democrat candidate.

So far, 273% of the state's eligible voters have voted in the election in what appears to be yet another miracle.

Democrats everywhere have declared that their faith in dedicated ballot counters has been restored by this divine event.

Patrick says

Every dead American in AFG get ten mail in ballots.

https://www.theepochtimes.com/mkt_morningbrief/undeliverable-ballots-in-georgia-were-double-bidens-official-margin-of-victory-report-says_3988334.html?utm_source=patrick.net&utm_medium=patrick.net&utm_campaign=patrick.net

Undeliverable Mail-in Ballots in Georgia Were Double the Official Margin of Victory, Report Says
BY MATTHEW VADUM September 8, 2021

An estimated 27,000 mail-in ballots in Georgia were returned as undeliverable by the post office during the 2020 election, according to a research brief by a good-government group. The number is more than double the margin of victory—12,000 votes—by which Joe Biden...

https://spectatorworld.com/topic/california-recall-wild-west-canada-security/

Bal­lot har­vest­ing is the col­lec­tion of ab­sen­tee bal­lots for de­liv­ery to elec­tion of­ficials. It’s il­le­gal in 23 states be­cause it’s ripe for abuse and fraud...

Send­ing bal­lots ad­dressed to in­el­i­gi­ble vot­ers that can be stolen, forged or misused is a recipe for dis­as­ter and un­der­mines con­fidence in the out­come. The fed­er­al US Elec­tion As­sistance Com­mis­sion re­ports that in 2020 al­most 15 mil­lion mail-in ballots weren’t re­turned as vot­ed, were un­de­liv­er­able or were oth­er­wise ‘un­able to be traced’. The Pub­lic In­ter­est Le­gal Foun­da­tion concludes ‘un­known bal­lots are the great­est blind spot in the Amer­i­can elec­toral sys­tem’.

That may ex­plain why Cana­da has such dif­fer­ent rules. Cal­i­for­nia doesn’t re­quire a vot­er to pro­duce ID. Cana­da re­quires its vot­ers present some gov­ern­ment-is­sued ID or at least two pieces of ID with their name and full ad­dress. Those who lack any can still vote, but only if some­one who knows them and is as­signed to their polling sta­tion vouch­es for them.

For mail-in vot­ing, Cana­di­ans must re­quest ‘a spe­cial bal­lot and pro­duce proof of iden­ti­ty, ei­ther by ap­ply­ing on­line and send­ing a digi­tal scan of doc­u­ments, or by mail with pho­tographs of iden­ti­fi­ca­tion’.

Sal­ly Pipes, a Cana­di­an who heads Cal­i­for­nia’s Pa­cif­ic Re­search In­sti­tute, told me: ‘Cana­da’s rules are much more se­cure. We need them rather than the any­thing-goes bal­lot­ing of Wild West Cal­i­for­nia.’

https://www.eip-ca.com/letters/significance_of_the_tally.htm

September 22, 2021
The Significance of the 1% Tally

A large segment of the voting population has expressed mild to serious concern and mistrust with respect to county voting systems, in particular voting machines and tabulators.


Even if voters consider all the methods of voting at their disposal, do their homework and weigh the advantages against the risks for each, and vote in the most educated and responsible way possible given their choices, there still is the specter of the QR codes for some, and the potentially hackable or algorithm-susceptible tabulators.


Voters are left asking themselves, “How do I know my vote counted?” or “How do I know the vote count was not hijacked by insecure systems?” or, worst of all, “Why should I even bother to vote at all?”


Their mistrust of the system is justified by the failure and refusal of some elections officials to be transparent and forthcoming to show skeptical voters why they should trust.


Fortunately, there is a legal mandate that forces elections offices to administer at least one level of public accountability, designed to test the reliability of the machine count.


It is called the 1% tally.


According to Election Code 15360:

“During the official canvass [tallying of votes] of every election in which a voting system is used, the official conducting the election shall conduct a public manual tally of the ballots tabulated by those devices, including vote by mail ballots…”


There are several options of how this is done, but basically it is a “public manual tally of the ballots, including vote by mail ballots, cast in 1 percent of the precincts chosen at random by the elections official.”


The purpose of the 1% tally:


The tally includes poll votes, vote by mail and provisional ballots.
The ballots from at least 1% of the precincts in the county are counted by hand.
The precincts are chosen completely at random.
The hand-count totals are compared with the machine count totals of the same batch of ballots.

If the results match, there is at least some reassurance that the results produced by the tabulators can be presumed to be accurate. While the procedure does not address all areas of suspicion associated with California’s very chaotic election process, it should alleviate QR code and tabulator concerns. But only if it, too, is under the surveillance of public scrutiny.


The 1% tally is happening NOW, in every county near and dear to you. Though some counties may have completed the process by now, many have not completed it, nor even begun. What better time for an Action Item?


Notice that this procedure is “public”, an opportunity for ALL citizens interested in accountability and wary of the tabulators to watch this minimal but highly telling recount.


If you have your doubts about the election system machines, now is the time to either allay or confirm them through the simple action of going to your county elections office and watching the 1% tally.


With respect to the recent Gubernatorial recall election, initial reports from EIPCa observers of the 1% tally in some counties are raising a few eyebrows.


For example, in one county that is trending approximately 60% - 40% in favor of “NO” on the tabulated recall election results, the hand count appears to be trending between 70% and 80% in favor of the “YES” side.


While this may ultimately amount to nothing - perhaps a precinct with particular uni-partisan makeup that will be balanced in the long run - these initial observations underscore the significance and importance of public oversight of this process so that it does not become one more thing that can be explained away and swept under the rug.


Citizens can and should Observe the 1% Tally


As we noted in our previous article, mistrust of the system leads directly to VOTER SUPPRESSION. And voter suppression leads to the DEATH of the Republic.


If we are not willing to devote in a small commitment of time and effort to be part of the solution, then we have very little standing to grumble, complain, criticize or deny.


Neither do we have any credibility to scoff at or revile the doubters without putting their concerns to the test.


Now is the time. Take a day or at least a few hours and be part of the rare privilege of self-governance.


Accept the invitation to observe the 1% tally in your county.

I asked how you observe exactly, and got this reply:

Hi Patrick
Everyone will need to contact their own Registrar of Voters since there are too many for us to look up.

You can find your Registrar of Voters contact info by doing a search on the computer by typing in “Registrar of Voters (your county name)”

Once you find get the contact info from the website, you can call to find out when and where they will be doing the tally.

Take care

Linda

https://nationalfile.com/massive-fraudulent-votes-and-apparent-nursing-home-vote-fraud-found-in-delaware-in-2020-election/

They frauded Delaware because they were afraid the China Joe might get embarrassed here as well.