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Right, the Ivy League gives a BS education (good pun there) which simply demonstrates that you conform without questions and that you hate the working class with a passion.

It's the ritualization of internalized status icons and brand names. If you want 'in' on the secret handshakes, you'd better not participate in 'exclusionary' behavior and mimic the high signs. The aristocrats notice when you don't use the proper silverware in the proper sequence.

That leads to a kind of silly circle jerk conformity. It's the Bertie Wooster crap. I see it in my Stanford nephew.

Inclusion is actually a Purge

True, to include the Ivy-conformist blacks one must exclude someone, and those excluded people are working class whites.

HunterTits says

graduate schools like law, medicine and the hard sciences you get some bang for that buck

Grad school in hard sciences costs exactly $0.000. PhD candidates even get paid, not much but enough to live.

LOL! It's the principle that 'Everything Offends The Queen', because of so many petty, hidebound traditions and signatories of station accumulated through the ages, that nobody BUT the Queen can do anything right, and everybody must bow in her wake.

I gather that Biden managed to 'offend the Queen' by telling her she reminded him of his mother. "My mom had that old lady smell, just like you! That's why I prefer, well, never mind...."

Ceffer says

I gather that Biden managed to 'offend the Queen' by telling her she reminded him of his mother.

No, not that. Biden did not follow proper royal etiquette for sniffing the Queens coiffure.

https://notthebee.com/article/the-new-head-chaplain-at-harvard-is-an-atheist-ie-someone-who-doesnt-actually-believe-in-god

The new head chaplain at Harvard is ... an atheist 🤔

Harvard students who are looking around for off-campus housing should probably consider looking around for off-campus religion as well.

The Ivies are just co-conspirators with the big Globalist Fraud now. Harvard cucked its brand name out a long time ago. Liars, cheats and thieves rather than thinkers.

https://babylonbee.com/news/harvard-hires-satan-as-new-head-chaplain

At least Satan believes in God............

Every time your Ivy League employee fucks up, he shows you his SAT scores from high school, puts his feet up on the desk, and tells you "'nuff said". It's infuriating.

Once I interviewed few Ivies with CS major for coding monkey positions. She claims worked for IBM for 5 years right after grad school. For the the recent 2y helping setting office in China for the recent ex employer. Almost in 20m never got proper reply for any technical questions while asking hard to trivial! Interview ended with wrong answer to how many bits in a byte! She must have been working in mgmt.
Found that she went through most fancy high school in SJ. I know few who sent their kids it's not one can pay but needs to maintain status to be there.
Given the pressure, very likely she was thrown into the system by parents against her will all along. It must be frustrating to her as well.

There is so much CV fraud, as well as admissions fraud and elitism fraud, I would presume at least half or more Ivy grads are frauds of some sort. I think the reliability index of state schools would be higher.
That doesn't even include the equal opportunity prop ups and the brand name fraud invoked by the Ivies for the spook assets.

I have a student getting ready to go to college. Avoiding Ivys (because of fee and academic rigor) but will apply to schools like Purdue, Urbana Champaign, Univ of Penn, Carnegie Mellon.

1. Which engineering branch has the most employment prospects?
2. Will demand for computer science graduates remain stable for the next several years or will supply exceed demand (outsourcing being an issue)? Any comments about cybersecurity, data science, AI, cloud software, block chain....other emerging technologies?

gabbar says

1. Which engineering branch has the most employment prospects?

My wife has massive connections in infrastructure engineering nationwide. Road building, sewer, water, utilities, etc. Get the engineering degree and don't worry about the school unless it's important to you or the kid. We're both University of Illinois Chicago grads (degree say U of I). If you show competence and have the degree, you'll be fine.

Minor in business. My wife is not an engineer. She's sales side, but really only deals with engineers. $250k/yr in rural IL, should be $400k but I gave up that fight. If you're gonna do college I'd push for STEM and a business minor.

I'm probably going to have my kids forgo college and just buy a trades business for what the cost of college would be for all 3. Teach them to run it for 5 years and retire about 55-58. Maybe STEM, but I don't see any value in college anymore. Business is not difficult, people are just too afraid to risk it and want to rely on an employer. Taxes and accounting are all math, so part of STEM. Marketing and business is the other part. Get experience in them and you'll do well.

WookieMan says

I'm probably going to have my kids forgo college and just buy a trades business for what the cost of college would be for all 3

Opportunity to tout my Locksmith idea:
Fairly easy to learn trade with big potential, easy to establish as sole proprietor.
Easy to move into security system installation, alarms, window bars, safes, as the Leftists destroy community safety by emptying jails and taking away our PPE.
Retire into a van-based mobile service....
I think there are a couple of Locksmith schools left if that fast-tracks the career arc, there used to be one in S.F

Harvard: "We just lost our 500 million pedo extortion and KMaf criminal enterprise money from Les Wexner over the Gaza free speech brouhahahaha."

Students: "Does this mean we can have free speech again and won't lose our premium NASCAR diplomas in the job markets?"

"Can I still fulfill my dream of becoming a Mockingbird powdered and poufed talking head reading propaganda from teleprompters, or writing non syllogistic propaganda follow ups for AI generated headlines from Switzerland ticker tapes? Do I get that NY City condo to swan about in with fab nightclubbing expense accounts?"

I hired two Harvard MBAs in LA. Absolutely zero entrepreneurial spirit. One had even been a previous CEO of a large company. Top dollar and no increase in business.

keeprubbersidedown says

I hired two Harvard MBAs in LA. Absolutely zero entrepreneurial spirit. One had even been a previous CEO of a large company. Top dollar and no increase in business.

They didn't even use the operation for money laundering, dope dealing, prostitution and back room gambling, and then burn it down for insurance money? How disappointing.

Blue says

Once I interviewed few Ivies with CS major for coding monkey positions. She claims...

A CS study teaches many of the building-block concepts of writing code (we hope), but that is just the beginning of what is needed. As a simple example, a CS major surely knows how to make a function call using a high-level language, but hasn't learned the 2000 functions available to be able to figure out which function to call! As James Damore famously got fired from Google for mentioning, women generally aren't super-duper interested in learning all the nitty gritty needed in writing production-level code.

Ceffer says

Every time your Ivy League employee fucks up, he shows you his SAT scores from high school, puts his feet up on the desk, and tells you "'nuff said". It's infuriating.

The math SAT is now just a collection of basic questions from standard math curriculum. It used to be somewhat of an intelligence test. So a high score there indicates competence in basic mathematics preceding calculus, not that you are particularly smart or capable of adapting your brain to ideas you haven't seen before.

With affirmative action and seeking of very-high-paying (and sometimes very-high-cheating) foreign students, the number of brilliant students in the top schools has slipped significantly. If you stick to only hiring caucasians and asians from poor and non-powerful family backgrounds, can still do very well.

gabbar says

2. Will demand for computer science graduates remain stable for the next several years or will supply exceed demand (outsourcing being an issue)? Any comments about cybersecurity, data science, AI, cloud software, block chain....other emerging technologies?

Specialization in cybersecurity, data science, AI, etc. is important now even at the undergraduate level. Master a specialization and then find a job opening that requires that knowledge. That could mean moving clear across the country to silicon valley (if you're not here already). Choose the area that seems the most interesting, because at least then learning that specific information won't seem like such drudgery.

Ivies have withdrawn into their core castle keeps of educating the wealthy, connected, privileged, or Intel assets internally in a separate experience while throwing the plebeian layer to the dogs of killer vaxes and political correctness (except for non-questioning technocrats who will toe the KommieKunt line and receive their technocracy servant education).

Isn't it delightful that the mafias with their printing press fiat bucks have turned the Ivies into shuddering, weeping, kneeling, cock sucking galley slaves for their pleasures?

Ceffer says

educating the wealthy, connected, privileged

That was certainly the case 100 years ago. However, the schools have embraced affirmative action and wokeness. Having the magic skin color or the right sexual deviancy will put you ahead of the smart and industrious. Hiring needs to exclude the former and grab the latter.

I imagine just like in the KommieKunt malignant tyrannies, there are parallel societies attempting to keep the faith in cells in the various Ivies, weathering the storms hoping more halcyon days will return. Good luck with that.

They aren't gay. Just like Pedo Hollywood, they have to suck cock and take it in the ass these days to get ahead and sidle into the adrenochrome sipping glitterati.

Blue says

Interview ended with wrong answer to how many bits in a byte!

Well, there COULD be 9, if there's parity check. 7 if it was a 1970's mainframe computer. There were a few systems I think from the 1960's that used tristate memory, so it would be 9 there, it had -1, 1, and 0 for logic. I have no idea how more complex logic gates worked in those systems.

A hard question today is how many bytes are in a word? Well, it can be 2, 4, or even 8. And int is defined in C as at least 8 bits, and anything up. The compiler decides. This is why you shouldn't use the C types in code even though everybody does.

SunnyvaleCA says

The math SAT is now just a collection of basic questions from standard math curriculum.

I remember the reset on the ACT around 1990 and again years later. I was told to add two points to the score before 1990 to get the equivalent score for the new ACT.

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AD says

I remember the reset on the ACT around 1990 and again years later. I was told to add two points to the score before 1990 to get the equivalent score for the new ACT.

Points are a deliberate obfuscation. All that matters is percentile ranking, which is objective.

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given someone is an Ivy League grad, then there is a 90% chance they are left wing

out of that 90%, there is a 90% chance they are SS (self aggrandizing and smug)

so there is an 89% you will regret hiring them or associating in anyway with them (90% x 90%)

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I did electrical work for an Ivy League graduate weeks back. He's opening a Jamaican meat patty joint.
We were talking about Science and Physics and he had to ask Google AI and spat it out verbatim as the screen was scrolling.
Would not, could not articulate his own understanding of the subject and would not allow any deviation, theory of even acknowledge the competing theories that academia voted out in favor of their standard. It makes for very one dimensional, shallow intellectuals. That if they forget the course material verbatim, they are lost for words and has to consult Google AI. He was even worse at talking politics and finances.
Of course he being the paying customer, and I don't just talk about these subjects with people to argue with them, but to see where their head is at. So I just shook my head yes and agreed with what ever Google told him. But in my mind, I was not impressed with the Ivy league mind they produced.
I'm used to people who will tell you the consensus bread and butter answers, has their own points of view, and can articulate why you're theory or opinion is wrong, rather than someone who is out to protect the institution.

He reminded me of Neil deGrasse Tyson, full of shit in a way.

The stunted science 'intellectuals' are nonetheless verbose and well funded are 'brick wall science' agitprop repeating stations. They are a combination of agog true believer, ayatollahs of falseness or short visions, and victims elevated with privileges that they don't want to lose, so they become screamers and enforcers.

The universities are Matryoshka Doll, with most of the dolls being dams holding historical and scientific disinformation. A small, select, secretive internal group are the magicians who are allowed into the hallowed dynastic halls of true information.

What we believe about history is wrong, and what they present as 'science' are various tenable brick walls that are designed to dissuade from peeking behind their phalanxes and curtains.

There are advanced sciences, cosmology, and physics heralded from distant history that they just don't want the public to know about, mainly because political and economic dominance would be overturned. Closest thing to truth they flog is various types of pragmatic engineering, which tends to be non denominational and a basis of economies.

Best you can hope for from the Ivies most of the time are ambitious, multi tasking bureaucrats of the disinformation (pre prepared, sold and packaged souls as obedient functionaries). You'll never see or hear from the black project guys.