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2021 Jun 27, 8:34pm   20,786 views  221 comments

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In my early retirement, I've decided to read at least an hour a night in real paper books. So far, I've read:

- my dad's old college English book (always felt I needed to improve my grammar)
- Candide by Voltaire
- Beyond Good and Evil by Nietzsche
- The Politics by Aristotle

Now I'm reading The Prince by Machiavelli, and really enjoying it. One tip: before invading, look for minorities who will help you because they resent the traditional rulers in their own country. They may in fact invite you in to help them overthrow their own country. This makes me think that the Chinese have read The Prince and are using BLM, gays, and militant feminism as allies in their fight against America.

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138   stfu   2022 May 6, 6:46am  

Patrick says

Another interesting thing in The Federalist Papers


If you enjoy that, you may enjoy this :

http://resources.utulsa.edu/law/classes/rice/Constitutional/AntiFederalist/antifed.htm?source=patrick.net
139   Patrick   2022 May 6, 7:35am  

Yes, it would be nice to hear the arguments against the Constitution as well.
140   Patrick   2022 May 6, 5:05pm  

Lol, too much!
141   richwicks   2022 May 15, 2:17am  

@Patrick

Not a paper book, but a good audio presentation of 1984.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CBPNrVQwqeo

I've read this book many times but I like to experience it many ways. This version is not abridged, so it's like 10 hours long.

I turned it into an MP3 if you prefer:

https://samoyed.dynu.net/~patrick/1984%20-%20audiobook.mp3

You can just download that onto a device. I'll keep it around there for a few weeks, but eventually I'll organize it. I do like to collect.
142   NuttBoxer   2022 May 16, 5:37pm  

Been reading through the Old Testament lately. I skip over the super Jewie stuff(large parts of Deuteronomy), but overall really enjoying it as I've always liked history. And next time a Jew tries that holier than thou shit, remind him of Numbers when they refused to go to the promised land. Temper tantrum of epic proportions. They whined so much God struck them with three different plague's/calamities.

Contrary to popular belief, the Bible isn't full of saints, its chock full of sinners. God doesn't ask for perfection, just that we try.
143   Patrick   2022 Jun 13, 12:48pm  

My next book after The Federalist Papers is "The Guide for the Perplexed" by Moses Maimonides, a Jewish scholar writing in Arabic in about 1100 AD. It attempts to reconcile the Old Testament with Greek philosophy, partly by analyzing words and taking them as metaphors rather than literally.

I ran across a funny passage in which he says:


In the same manner does the root "nasa" (to lift up) denote both elevation in space and elevation in dignity.
144   🎂 AmericanKulak   2022 Jun 13, 1:12pm  

NuttBoxer says


Been reading through the Old Testament lately. I skip over the super Jewie stuff(large parts of Deuteronomy), but overall really enjoying it as I've always liked history. And next time a Jew tries that holier than thou shit, remind him of Numbers when they refused to go to the promised land. Temper tantrum of epic proportions. They whined so much God struck them with three different plague's/calamities.



Yeah, I skip over the various rules and regualtions too, but I gotta get a large print in my old age. I stopped about where you are now.

The Jews are an example of why humans can't just be given some laws and obey them to prosper. They have to be graced with Spirit. But some fall into the Marcionite Heresy - not understanding the OT is needed to understand the NT, which refers to it constantly.

I think the most relevant story to today is Jehu vs. Jezebel. A bigmouthed, burly general who "Rode his chariot recklessly" and adored by women, did what a Prophet was scared to do. 2 Kings? I also believe it's 2 Kings that trashes the Oral Torah idea: They couldn't have forgotten Pesach/Passover if they had the phony balony Oral Torah fiction. Notice the Bible, including the NT, NEVER references any Oral Torah crap. Another confirmation is that ALL the Prophets and Kings descent is given through the male, not female like Oral Torah claims, line. Jewish Protestantism! The Karaites also suggest the Oral Torah is a post-Temple invention, not given to the Levites with that very vague passage in Exodus as claimed.
145   Patrick   2022 Jun 15, 7:52pm  

Also interesting: Maimonides knew the earth was spherical before the year 1200:


For a proposition which can be proved by evidence is not subject to dispute, denial, or rejection: none but the ignorant would contradict it, and such contradiction is called 'denial of a demonstrated proof.' Thus you find men who deny the spherical form of the earth, or the circular form of the line in which the stars move, and the like: such men are not considered in this treatise.


And I had to chuckle at this line:

he whose testicles are warm, humid, and vigorous, and the organs connected therewith are surcharged, will not easily refrain from sin, even if he makes great efforts to restrain himself.
146   🎂 AmericanKulak   2022 Jun 15, 7:53pm  

Patrick says



And I had to chuckle at this line:

"he whose testicles are warm, humid, and vigorous, and the organs connected therewith are surcharged, will not easily refrain from sin, even if he makes great efforts to restrain himself."


Why is there a Quaker on Quaker Oats?

Because it's been thought of since forever, that meat and eggs makes people horny, and bland food makes people have a lower sex drive. Therefore, to be continent, be like a quaker and eat bland, grain based foods.
147   NuttBoxer   2022 Jun 22, 12:37pm  

AmericanKulak says

I also believe it's 2 Kings that trashes the Oral Torah idea


I attended a Christian college, and have never heard of an "Oral" Torah. Starting with the 10 Commandments God wrote them for the Jews on stone tablets. That's not that much to remember, but God purposely wrote them down. There's no way they just memorized all of Leviticus and Deuteronomy. There are several references to reading the law during festivals, and at other critical junctures in Israel's history.
148   Patrick   2022 Jun 22, 1:10pm  

The Oral Torah is a whole other set of laws in addition to the written Torah, which has not only the 10 Commandments, but a slew of other laws. Maimonides counted 613 rules for Jews, I think all from the written Torah, but not sure.

The Oral Torah idea sounds kinda bullshitty to me, especially because the written Torah explicitly states that nothing may be added to it, but it's accepted by mainstream Judaism.

The Karaites are a small Jewish group that has always rejected the Oral Torah and the Talmud.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karaite_Judaism
149   B.A.C.A.H.   2022 Jun 24, 8:54am  

"Sins of the Father" by Eileen Franklin and William Wright. I picked this one up last month for one dollar at a used book store.

Eileen Franklin's testimony of a repressed childhood memory of her dad George Franklin's brutal murder of eight year old Susan Nason in San Mateo County was a sensational news story. The trial was in 1990 with a guilty verdict.

There was no doubt that Franklin's repressed memory about the crime was accurate, as she described details from the body dumping scene that only law enforcement folks knew. Nonetheless the verdict was overturned and George went free, because an appeals court ruled that repressed memory was not admissible evidence. So much controversy in the media about all this back in the day.

I'm about halfway through the book. So far, the narrative about the crime is more like a storytelling vehicle for life in Foster City and the Peninsula in the 1970's. So much to unpack from that narrative.

For all you Hipsters out there who think the SF Bay Area is all about Silicon Valley and "tech" and RSU's and Teslas and Status Symbol European Sedan cars and Woksterism, this would be a great read for some broader perspective. Also as you read be mindful of the concept of Latchkey Children in quiet, leafy, white, "safe" suburban neighborhoods that have schools with High Standardized Test Scores.
150   🎂 AmericanKulak   2022 Jun 24, 12:02pm  

You're exactly right. There is no oral Torah, but many Jews are taught there is one. That it was secret instructions given to Levites in the wilderness, but really fabricated by rabbis around 300ad in exile
151   NuttBoxer   2022 Jun 25, 10:19am  

Started reading Paul Schneider's autobiography. Pastor who grew up in Germany before and during WWII. Draws some disconcerting parallel's between Germany than, and America now. Especially when it comes to self-censorship of free speech, I think we are already there.
152   NuttBoxer   2022 Jun 27, 9:53pm  

Finished Schneider's autobiography, pretty short book. Close to the time he started getting in trouble with the SS a friend of his tried to tell him to tone down his opinions contrary to the Nazi's, and pointed out his wife and four children. Schneider looks at the guy with obvious emotion and says "God has charged me with my families spiritual well-being as well as their physical"(my paraphrase). In a fucking scary situation with a young family like that, for Paul to see so clearly what mattered not just at that moment, but for eternity.. wow. I hope I can be half that man if my time comes.
153   Patrick   2022 Jun 27, 10:27pm  

Thanks @NuttBoxer I did not know about Schneider.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Schneider_(pastor)
154   Patrick   2022 Jul 25, 7:39am  

https://t.me/kagbabe/8695


Tucker Carlson gives advice to young men.

"Read books. Actual, physical books. Set aside an hour every day. Any book written before WW2 has a kind of ease about it. There’s less self-censorship. This was a much freer country before WW2. It’s very obvious in the literature."
156   Patrick   2022 Oct 16, 11:45am  

I'm still on my Aunt Millie's old Latin textbook. This is going to take months, but I'm enjoying it.
157   AD   2022 Oct 16, 12:52pm  

Patrick says

This makes me think that the Chinese have read The Prince and are using BLM, gays, and militant feminism as allies in their fight against America.


Look at who funds groups like AntiFa and other Woke statists and militant groups. It non profits like Act Blue and Bend the Arc.

Have to find out how these non profits get funded and from who. I would not be surprised if Chicom money such as from Chicom-connected businesses are involved with indirectly funding these non profits.

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159   FortwayeAsFuckJoeBiden   2022 Oct 24, 1:28pm  

Patrick says






won’t be removed by cancel culture from your book shelf remotely
160   NuttBoxer   2022 Oct 24, 2:39pm  

I might have plugged it before, but Richard Taylor's book on his experience in the Civil War(Southern officer), is a very good application of Lee's letter. I've heard the same of Stonewall Jackson's, although Sheridan certainly his an interesting take on the man.
161   Patrick   2023 Jan 7, 1:48pm  

I found "San Fran-Sicko" in the Menlo Park public library, which was surprising because usually their new books are all promoting anti-white hatred and little else.

I'll post some choice insights from the book on this thread. First one : the homeless shelters and public housing are primary locations of drug dealing in SF, with the people who run them often being the dealers. That is, government employees are using their proximity to the homeless as an opportunity to sell them drugs.
162   HeadSet   2023 Jan 7, 5:53pm  

NuttBoxer says

Sheridan's book on his experience in the Civil War(Southern officer),

General Sheridan was a Northern officer. Famous for ripping up Virginia's Shenandoah Valley.
164   NuttBoxer   2023 Jan 8, 8:21pm  

NuttBoxer says

I might have plugged it before, but Richard Taylor's book on his experience in the Civil War(Southern officer), is a very good application of Lee's letter. I've heard the same of Stonewall Jackson's, although Sheridan certainly his an interesting take on the man.


Yikes, corrected.
165   NuttBoxer   2023 Jan 8, 8:22pm  

Trying to read Ulysses, haven't made it very far. Definitely understand the critique on it being a tough read.
166   Patrick   2023 Jan 8, 8:31pm  

I agree. I just can't understand Joyce.
167   NuttBoxer   2023 Jan 8, 9:27pm  

That makes me feel better. Lots of Irish specific references I figured I'm missing the meaning of, but if even an Irishman can't fathom them, I'm not doing as bad as I thought.
170   Ceffer   2023 Jan 8, 11:29pm  

NuttBoxer says

That makes me feel better. Lots of Irish specific references I figured I'm missing the meaning of, but if even an Irishman can't fathom them, I'm not doing as bad as I thought.

Learn to read current and ancient Latin, Greek, and Irish, study Irish mythology in depth, as well as Greek Mythology, take some shrooms once in a while to relate the schizoid frame of reference, mixed analogies, and puns, think of a wobbly camera reeling through Dublin changing perspective constantly, and it will be one of the best books you have ever read (so I heard, I barely got past 'riverrun').
171   Ceffer   2023 Jan 8, 11:36pm  

Patrick says



I've known some former 'homeless', including one of my oldest friends who was quite prosperous, but the drugs and booze got him. He wound up living in his car, then behind his car, until the car got towed, which is a common spirol for addicts. He was on the streets of Oakland for a couple of years. He wound up getting sober, rebuilding his life, and becoming quite prosperous again. Mentally ill, oddly enough, with medication can usually function enough to live in group homes and do OK as long as they are not taking or seeking street drugs.

Drugs, alcohol etc. can make you crazy as well as addicted, and typically, it requires at least six months to a year drying them out to even diagnose mental status, and who is going to go to the expense for a possibly brain damaged and homeless person(s)?
172   NuttBoxer   2023 Jan 9, 3:21pm  

Patrick says






'
First, prohibition created alcoholism. Maybe a bit of an exaggeration, but fact is, most people never tried hard liquor until prohibition.
Second, I don't know of any addict who's quit because they got arrested. Does anyone?
Third, my relative who sold cannabis in Chicago would still be alive if it was legal. He was shot during a deal that went bad.

You cannot legislate morality or good choices. Black markets are always more dangerous than buying and selling legally. And the War on Us is still one of the greatest failures in American history, preceded only by the War of Terror, but still ahead of the Scamdemic.

Watch The Wire, Season 3, then tell me about drug laws.
173   Patrick   2023 Feb 19, 1:05pm  

Patrick says

Just finished Going Solo by Roald Dahl, the children's writer. It's about his time before WWII in East Africa, and during WWII as a British fighter pilot.



174   Ceffer   2023 Feb 19, 2:19pm  

Why aren't you reading books emblazoned on flayed and tanned human flesh? That's where you will find out the way the world really works.
175   Patrick   2023 Feb 19, 3:33pm  

https://notthebee.com/article/why-do-you-need-to-own-so-many-books-they-ask-heres-why


In eras of mass censorship and overzealous ideology, books are often the first thing to go. Books are perfect mass mediums for the transmission of knowledge, which is why they're so often targets of censors and busybodies and dictators.

Keep your large book collections. Make them larger. Don't give them up. They're necessary.

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