Thread for vax deaths, maimings, and severe side effects

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by Patrick   $0.28 total tips   💰tip   follow   2021 Jul 28, 8:33pm  

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‘Better Call Saul’ Star Bob Odenkirk Collapses on Set After Receiving Experimental COVID-19 Vaccine
Jul 28, 2021

‘Better Call Saul’ star Bob Odenkirk had to be rushed to the hospital after collapsing on set while filming his hit television show on Tuesday.

The 58-year-old actor had been a shill for the experimental COVID-19 vaccine, boasting publicly that he had received the jab and urging others to do so.

He even did a public-service announcement on behalf of Big Pharma urging fans of ‘Better Call Saul’ to line up and get the vaccine.

“Our number came up…and here we are, happy to get our first vaccine, Pfizer, so far it doesn’t hurt at all, but maybe a little,” Odenkirk said back in March.

“So we’re really happy and proud to get the vaccine today and we hope anybody today who sees this would come down here or sign up if they haven’t,” he added.

That video can be seen here: ...

Big League Politics has reported on how Pfizer is one of the pharmaceutical giants receiving immunity from liability for their COVID-19 shots:

“The US government has granted Pfizer and Moderna immunity from liability in case people develop severe side effects from their COVID-19 vaccines.

The Public Readiness and Emergency Preparedness (PREP) Act allows the Department of Health and Human Services to provide liability immunity for “certain medical countermeasures,” such as vaccines, except in cases of “willful misconduct.”

According to CNBC, someone who develops severe side effects from a COVID-19 vaccine can neither sue the FDA for authorizing the vaccine, nor one’s employer for mandating it.

And although it is theoretically possible to receive money from the government to cover lost wages and out-of-pocket medical expenses following “irreparable harm” from a vaccine, only 29 claims—6 percent of all claims—have received compensation over the past decade.

In short, don’t count on compensation for a COVID-19 vaccine gone wrong. And don’t count on seeing any of those “you may be entitled to financial compensation” commercials for it either.“

Odenkirk is still hospitalized as of Wednesday morning. His COVID-19 vaccine shilling may not be as effective now that he has suffered these complications.

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1813   Onvacation   2022 Jun 29, 10:34am  

richwicks says

Pretty certain that was what John Ritter died of.

"Sept. 12, 2003 -- Popular TV and movie star John Ritter has died from an undetected flaw in his heart called an aortic dissection. Ritter came to fame in the 1970s TV program "Three's Company""
1814   GNLusedtobeWine   2022 Jun 29, 11:07am  

zzyzzx says

Did he die or something? Picture is not explained.
1815   Onvacation   2022 Jun 29, 11:14am  

WineHorror1 says

Did he die or something? Picture is not explained.

Comedian Nick Nemeroff dead at 32: Fans mourn 'sudden' passing
1816   Onvacation   2022 Jun 29, 11:17am  

Vaxxed then "dies suddenly" from "unknown causes".
1817   GNLusedtobeWine   2022 Jun 29, 11:23am  

Onvacation says

WineHorror1 says

Did he die or something? Picture is not explained.

Comedian Nick Nemeroff dead at 32: Fans mourn 'sudden' passing

What do the photos of Disney caskets have to do with it? Was he a Disney employee or something?
1818   richwicks   2022 Jun 29, 11:48am  

WineHorror1 says

Did he die or something? Picture is not explained.

Yes, Nick Nemeroff is dead.

1819   richwicks   2022 Jun 29, 11:51am  

WineHorror1 says

What do the photos of Disney caskets have to do with it? Was he a Disney employee or something?

Comedian, dead at 32 - I presume the caskets (very poor taste those even exist) is because he was just a kid.
1820   Ceffer   2022 Jun 29, 12:38pm  

It's just so BAFFLING!
1821   GNLusedtobeWine   2022 Jun 29, 12:41pm  

richwicks says

WineHorror1 says

Did he die or something? Picture is not explained.

Yes, Nick Nemeroff is dead.


Yes, I understand. Why the Disney themed caskets in the photo?
1822   Ceffer   2022 Jun 29, 3:08pm  

Yes, he is dead. This is so BAFFLING.
1823   Patrick   2022 Jun 29, 10:27pm  


Maryland 2nd Grade Teacher, Mom Monika Herold Dies Suddenly, 37
June 21, 2022

Beloved Prince George's County teacher and mom of two Monika Herold died suddenly on Sunday, June 12. She was 37 years old. Born in Lansing, Michigan, Monika was a 2002 graduate of Arundel High School, having graduated with a degree in Education from Frostburg State University in 2006, according to her obituary. Monika she taught elementary school for 16 years at both Riverdale Elementary School and Montpelier Elementary School [Prince George’s County, MD]. One of her talents was speaking to troubled students, who would often come back to visit just to say hello, those who knew her said.

No cause of death reported.


Prince George's County Public Schools "vaccination" policy:
PGCPS recommends COVID-19 vaccinations for everyone age 12 and up to help mitigate school and community spread. All staff are required to be vaccinated or undergo weekly testing.

1824   Bd6r   2022 Jun 30, 6:46am  

Behold, reason for heart attacks and strokes has been found:

1825   Patrick   2022 Jun 30, 9:56am  


Organ transplantation from deceased donors with vaccine‐induced thrombosis and thrombocytopenia

Vaccine‐induced thrombosis and thrombocytopenia (VITT) may follow immunization with the ChAdOx1 nCoV‐19 vaccine against SARS‐CoV‐2.1, 2 ...

There were seven major thrombotic or hemorrhagic postoperative complications (three bleeds and four venous or arterial allograft thromboses) in six recipients, resulting in the loss of three transplants as described above; these events occurred within 9 days of transplantation. Of the six recipients with bleeding or thrombotic events, two had received their second dose of ChAdOx1 nCoV‐19 vaccine within 30 days before transplantation...

Further experience of organ transplantation from donors with VITT and longer term recipient follow‐up will help guide clinical decision‐making. In the meantime, transplantation of organs from these donors should only proceed after careful consideration of the methods for organ recovery and of the risks and benefits for a potential recipient, and an appropriate consent discussion.

The vaxx is so dangerous that it's not safe to get the organs of people who were killed by the vaxx.
1827   Patrick   2022 Jun 30, 1:23pm  


Could be that vaxxed mothers give birth to immune-suppressed babies.
1828   Ceffer   2022 Jun 30, 2:24pm  

Does this mean they can't be used for adrenochrome harvesting?
1829   Ceffer   2022 Jul 1, 11:39pm  

Guess he'll know firsthand the meaning of "Poison" after all.
1830   GNLusedtobeWine   2022 Jul 2, 6:29am  

He is big time diabetic. He has had several past health issues. I am not sure this is true.
1831   richwicks   2022 Jul 2, 6:55am  

Ceffer says


It wasn't the vaccine, she was already on her way out:


That's an OLD wikipedia entry. She had bowel cancer.
1833   GNLusedtobeWine   2022 Jul 2, 10:22am  

Guess who I'm sending this video to?
1834   Ceffer   2022 Jul 2, 10:43am  

richwicks says

It wasn't the vaccine, she was already on her way out:

Coup de grace? Vaccine is cited for accelerating cancers. You have a contributory condition, the vax will fuck up your immune system and make it worse, a la AIDS type syndrome.
1835   Ceffer   2022 Jul 2, 11:19am  

L'il cancer and disease acceleration here, L'il sterilization there. Pretty soon, you're talking real morbidity.
1837   GNLusedtobeWine   2022 Jul 2, 12:56pm  

Ceffer says


This is insane talk. I wonder how much the change to the Smith Mundt Act that Obama changed, has to do with all of the propaganda on both sides of this Covid disaster.
1843   GNLusedtobeWine   2022 Jul 2, 7:33pm  

Ceffer says

We really need links for stuff like this. Do you have one @Ceffer?
1844   Ceffer   2022 Jul 2, 7:38pm  

WineHorror1 says

We really need links for stuff like this. Do you have one @Ceffer?
1846   richwicks   2022 Jul 2, 8:35pm  

Ceffer says

WineHorror1 says

We really need links for stuff like this. Do you have one @Ceffer?

@WineHorror1 and @Ceffer

THIS is the original article:


The relevant part is:

His weekly report, compiled last Friday, said of those in hospital of all ages directly due to Covid at that point 46pc had received a booster vaccination, 19pc had completed primary vaccination and 35pc were partially vaccinated.


But this "news" article is from The Independent which is mainstream bullshit, so take it with a grain of salt.
1847   Patrick   2022 Jul 2, 8:59pm  


Blink-182 drummer Travis Barker reportedly hospitalized for unknown reason in LA


Not sayin it was the vaxx, but...
1848   Patrick   2022 Jul 2, 10:13pm  


i think this makes the case that sweden is just experiencing normal variability look very weak and the the case for a vaccine driven effect look quite strong.

that is NOT what i was hoping to find. if this is what it looks like, this is very bad news.
1850   Al_Sharpton_for_President   2022 Jul 3, 5:50am  

Patrick says

i think this makes the case that sweden is just experiencing normal variability look very weak and the the case for a vaccine driven effect look quite strong.

1851   Al_Sharpton_for_President   2022 Jul 3, 6:23am  

Are the Covid mRNA Vaccines Safe?

A new scientific study entitled “Serious adverse events of special interest following mRNA vaccination in randomized trials” provides the best evidence yet concerning the safety of the mRNA Covid vaccines. For most vaccines in common use, benefits far outweigh risks, but that may not be the case for the mRNA covid vaccines, according to this study by Joseph Fraiman and his colleagues. It depends on your age and medical history.

The randomized controlled clinical trial is the gold standard of scientific evidence. When regulators approved the Pfizer and Moderna mRNA vaccines for emergency use in December 2020, two randomized trials showed that the vaccines reduced symptomatic covid infection by over 90% during the first few months after the second dose.

Pfizer and Moderna did not design the trials to evaluate long-term efficacy or the more important outcomes of preventing hospitalization, death, or transmission.

The randomized trials did collect adverse event data, including the presence of mild symptoms (such as fever) and more serious events requiring hospitalization or leading to death. Most vaccines generate some mild adverse reactions in some people, and there were considerably more adverse such reactions after the mRNA vaccines compared to the placebo.

That is annoying but not a major issue. We care about severe health outcomes. The key question is whether the vaccine’s efficacy outweighs the risks of severe adverse reactions.

The Fraiman study uses data from the same Pfizer and Moderna-sponsored randomized trials presented to the FDA for vaccine approval, but with two innovations that provide additional information.

First, the study pools data from both mRNA vaccines to increase the sample size, which decreases the confidence intervals’ size and the uncertainty about the estimated harms.

Second, the study focuses only on the severe adverse events plausibly due to the vaccines. Serious adverse events such as gunshot wounds, suicide, animal bites, foot fractures, and back injury are unlikely to be due to a vaccine, and cancer is unlikely to be due to a vaccine within a few months after vaccination. By removing such random noise, the ability (statistical power) to detect genuine problems increases. If there is no excess risk, shorter confidence intervals bolster confidence in the safety of the vaccines.

Classifying adverse events into the two groups is not a trivial task, but Fraiman et al. do an excellent job to avoid bias. They rely on the pre-defined Brighton Collaboration definitions of adverse events of special interest (AESI). Founded in 2000, the Brighton Collaboration has two decades of experience using rigorous science to define clinical outcomes for vaccine safety studies.

Moreover, Fraiman and colleagues blinded the process where they classified the clinical events as AESIs. Adjudicators did not know whether the individual had received the vaccine or the placebo. Hence, any criticism of so-called p-hacking is unwarranted.

So, what are the results? There were 139 AESIs among the 33,986 people vaccinated, one for every 244 people. That may sound bad, but those numbers mean nothing without comparison against a control group. There were 97 AESIs among the 33,951 people who received a placebo. Combining these numbers implies 12.5 vaccine-induced AESIs for every 10,000 people vaccinated, with a 95% confidence interval of 2.1 to 22.9 per 10,000 people. To phrase it differently, there is one additional AESI for every 800 people vaccinated (95% CI: 437-4762).

That is very high for a vaccine. No other vaccine on the market comes close.

The numbers for the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines are 10 and 15 additional events per 10,000 people, respectively, so both vaccines contributed to the finding. The numbers are similar enough that we cannot confidently say that one is safer than the other. Most excess AESIs were coagulation disorders. For the Pfizer vaccine, there was also an excess of cardiovascular AESIs.

While these safety results are concerning, we must not forget the other side of the equation. Unfortunately, the study does not calculate composite estimates that also included the reduction in serious covid infections, but we have such estimates for mortality.

Dr. Christine Benn and her colleagues calculated a combined estimate of the effect of vaccination on all-cause mortality using the same randomized trial data as Fraiman et al. They did not find a mortality reduction for the mRNA vaccines (relative risk 1.03, 95% CI: 0.63-1.71).

One important limitation of both Fraiman’s and Benn’s studies is that they do not distinguish the adverse reactions by age, comorbidities, or medical history. That is not their fault. Pfizer and Moderna have not released that information, so outside researchers do not have access.

We know that the vaccine benefits are not equally distributed among people since covid mortality is more than a thousand times higher among the old. Thus, risk-benefit calculations must be done separately for different groups: with and without prior covid infection, by age, and for the first two doses versus boosters.

Covid-recovered people have natural immunity that is stronger than vaccine-induced immunity. So, the benefit of vaccination is – at best – minimal. If the risk of adverse reactions is the same as in the randomized trials, there is a negative risk-benefit difference. Why are we mandating people in this group to be vaccinated? It is both unethical and damaging to public health.
While everyone can get infected, children have a minuscule risk of covid mortality. There is very limited safety data from the trials on children. If the risk of adverse reactions is the same as for adults, the harms outweigh the risks. Children should not receive these vaccines.
Older people above 70 have a much higher risk of covid mortality than the population in the Fraiman study. If their risk of adverse reaction is the same, then the benefits outweigh the harms. Hence, older people who have never had covid and are not yet vaccinated may benefit from these vaccines. However, we do not know if they are better than the Johnson & Johnson and Astra-Zeneca vaccines.
It is unclear from the clinical trial data whether the benefits outweigh the risks for working-age adults who have not been vaccinated and who have not already had covid. This is true both historically, for the original covid variants, and currently for the newer ones.
The Fraiman study analyzes data after the first and second doses. Both risks and benefits may differ for booster shots, but no randomized trial has properly evaluated the trade-off.
These results concern only the Pfizer and Moderna mRNA vaccines. Fraiman et al. did not analyze data on the adenovirus-vector vaccines marketed by Johnson & Johnson and Astra-Zeneca. Benn et al. found that they reduced all-cause mortality (RR=0.37, 95% CI:0.19-0.70), but nobody has used trial data to analyze AESIs for these vaccines.

Critically, the Fraiman and Benn studies had a follow-up of only a few months after the second dose because Pfizer and Moderna, unfortunately, terminated their randomized trials a few months after receiving emergency use authorization. Of course, a longer-term benefit can provide a basis to tolerate negative or neutral short-term risk-benefit differences. However, that is unlikely since we know from observational studies that mRNA vaccine efficacy deteriorates a few months after the second dose.

There may also be long-term adverse reactions to the vaccine regarding which we do not yet know. Since the randomized trials ended early, we must look at observational data to answer that question. The publicly available data from the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System is of low quality, with both under- and over-reporting. The best observational data is from CDCs Vaccine Safety Datalink (VSD) and FDA’s Biologics and Effectiveness Safety System (BEST), but there have only been limited reports from these systems.

Fraiman and colleagues have produced the best evidence yet regarding the overall safety of the mRNA vaccines. The results are concerning. It is the responsibility of the manufacturers and FDA to ensure that benefits outweigh harms. They have failed to do so.

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