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Employers know who has HIV/AIDS. I don’t believe for a second that details like this are kept private from your treatment paying employer.

AIDS is also not an airborne virus, so it’s not an apples to apples comparison. HR would probably quickly throw that argument out.

Never had an employer ask. Ever. Wife as well for work. Never had them ask for vaccination records. It's not their business.

Most I've been asked is an ID, social security card and then fill out a W-2. Filled out non-compete and whatever form there are for not disclosing information about the business. Medical field is the only place I've heard of employees being asked that stuff for good reason.

I know the difference with airborne and how AIDS is transferred. Who cares? You CANNOT ask about AIDS in anything I can think of beside maybe medical. It's a top 5 no-no in real estate. The point is moot either way, if they're not asking about other illnesses it's discrimination, plain and simple. So they either have to get your full medical records and find out about all ailments or not require vaccination. You choose what you get to put into your body.

This is literally like an employer asking if you ate ribs before to get a job. The coming lawsuits over all this are going to be insane. This is going overboard and will start hitting people with deep pockets.

BayArea says

My kids need their vaccine status disclosed to enter the public school system.

Asking for vaccine status isn’t unheard of like some of you are making it sound like.

Under normal circumstances sure. But under this authoritarian regime, hell no. I don’t trust them.

BayArea says

Asking for vaccine status isn’t unheard of like some of you are making it sound like.

Yep, another precedent that most people probably didn't think about deeply enough at the time. Although you always have the choice not to send your kids to public school.

BayArea says

AIDS is also not an airborne virus, so it’s not an apples to apples comparison. HR would probably quickly throw that argument out.

Is covid? Heard that human to human transmission through the air has never been proven. I think the point is it's a contagious disease. Just like herpes, any other flu, common cold, hepatitis, etc. If my employer is going to protect me from covid, they should protect me from these as well.

NuttBoxer says

If my employer is going to protect me from covid, they should protect me from these as well.

Bingo. My point and yours as well.

Also covid is a 2 week disease at worst for 98% of the population. And yes, mostly dead people can die from it. Regardless of the chances of getting AIDS in a work environment, if I do, I live with it for life. Not just 2 weeks. I don't want those people on a plane or near me. I'm being hyperbolic, but the concept is the same. We cannot protect everyone from everything and that's what we're trying to do with an airborne, minor illness. Adults need to make adult choices.

BayArea says

Employers know who has HIV/AIDS. I don’t believe for a second that details like this are kept private from your treatment paying employer.

AIDS is also not an airborne virus, so it’s not an apples to apples comparison. HR would probably quickly throw that argument out.

What about TB? Airborne? Check. Contageous? Check. Does HR ask anyone if they have it, require proof of vaccination against it or a negative test? Nope. Why not?

What about chickenpox? Airborne, highly contageous, very deadly to people over 25. Why no mandatory disclosure for this one?

FuckCCP89 says

BayArea says

Employers know who has HIV/AIDS. I don’t believe for a second that details like this are kept private from your treatment paying employer.

AIDS is also not an airborne virus, so it’s not an apples to apples comparison. HR would probably quickly throw that argument out.

What about TB? Airborne? Check. Contageous? Check. Does HR ask anyone if they have it, require proof of vaccination against it or a negative test? Nope. Why not?

What about chickenpox? Airborne, highly contageous, very deadly to people over 25. Why no mandatory disclosure for this one?

People that aren't gay cannot get AIDS generally, that's why. They're a protected class that is part of an acronym that grows annually, yet is like 2-3% of the population.

If I have to disclose a vaccine (vaccine passport) to enter an establishment, I want to know who has AIDS and that they also cannot enter. Along with the other diseases you mention. I give zero shits how AIDS is transmitted (pun intended). I'm not scared of getting AIDS or Covid. I'm an adult and don't need other adults to make decisions for me.

All it takes is 2-3 rich fucks to get covid passport checked and sue businesses out of existence. I hope it's happening right now. It should be.

FuckCCP89 says

BayArea says

Employers know who has HIV/AIDS. I don’t believe for a second that details like this are kept private from your treatment paying employer.

AIDS is also not an airborne virus, so it’s not an apples to apples comparison. HR would probably quickly throw that argument out.

What about TB? Airborne? Check. Contageous? Check. Does HR ask anyone if they have it, require proof of vaccination against it or a negative test? Nope. Why not?

What about chickenpox? Airborne, highly contageous, very deadly to people over 25. Why no mandatory disclosure for this one?

They don't know who has HIV/AIDS since it's illegal to ask. It should be the same for !covid!. Also again kids often don't social distance or follow hygiene protocols, so it makes sense for elementary schools and kindergarden/preschools. Starting middle school and high school though vaccination should not be required anymore.

mell says

They don't know who has HIV/AIDS since it's illegal to ask. It should be the same for !covid!. Also again kids often don't social distance or follow hygiene protocols, so it makes sense for elementary schools and kindergarden/preschools. Starting middle school and high school though vaccination should not be required anymore.

That's the problem with this all. They're making people that did normal, trialed and tested vaccines not trust even those now. I trust them, but this is going to create a massive anti-vax crowd. What was maybe 5% of the population before, may now turn into 10-15% anti-vax. Kids being home schooled. Bygone diseases coming back. The reaction to a flu bug has been insane considering who it is killing. It's nuts. No other way to put it.

mell says

They don't know who has HIV/AIDS since it's illegal to ask. It should be the same for !covid!.

If I learned anything from the countless mandatory training courses I was forced to take every year at every corporate job* is that they can't ask specifics about any disease. Can't ask specifics on why you're taking a sick day, can't ask what condition makes you request a "reasonable accommodation", etc.


*) Not in medical or food-related industries, these might be different.

Patrick says

I think there is truly a serious risk that all of your assets will be effectively confiscated by banks and brokerages with support from Biden's corrupt DOJ if you do not submit to the clot shot.

Hey, that was a pretty good prediction about Canada actually.

Might still happen here.

It is not wise to trust the banks any longer.

It's a good prediction about the NWO in general. (Here comes my favorite word) They'll use Bio-digital convergence tied into CBDC's to make this a reality for everyone. Comply, or be cut-off.

Why not apply all of this to obesity, not that I endorse applying it at all.

saw this online ....hope it helps if needed

IF YOUR EMPLOYER THREATENS YOU WITH FIRING for NOT accepting the experimental liability free gene therapy product being pushed as a “VACCINE” perhaps this is your best option:

DON’T REFUSE:

The secret is NOT to refuse the jab and do not sign anything!

Consider how you can adopt this Information from a lawyer: If you are being forced to Vax in order to keep your job, here’s a great way to handle it, called Conditional Acceptance.

The secret is NOT to refuse it.

“I write with regard to the matter of potential covid vaccine and my desire to be fully informed and appraised of ALL facts before going ahead with this medical procedure. I’d be most grateful if you could please provide the following information, in accordance with statutory legal requirements:

1. Can you please advise the approved legal status of any vaccine and if it is experimental?

2. Can you please provide details and assurances that the vaccine has been fully, independently and rigorously tested against control groups as well as the subsequent outcomes of those tests?

3. Can you please advise the entire list of contents of the vaccine I am to receive and if any are toxic to the body?

4. Can you please fully advise of all the adverse reactions associated with this vaccine since it’s introduction?

5. Can you please confirm that the vaccine you are advocating is NOT experimental mRNA gene altering therapy?

6. Can you please confirm that I will not be under any duress from yourselves as my employers, in compliance with the Nuremberg Code?

7. Can you please advise me of the likely risk of fatality, should I be unfortunate to contract Covid 19 and the likelihood of recovery?

8. Can you please advise me if the manufacturer will be held liable if I were to experience any adverse reactions after receiving the injection? If the manufacturer isn’t liable, will the company I’m currently employed with with be responsible and liable as it is at their request that I have the vaccine in order to carry on my employment?

Once I have received the above information in full and I am satisfied that there is NO threat to my health, I will be happy to accept your offer to receive the treatment, but with certain conditions – namely that:

1. You confirm in writing that I will suffer no harm.

2. Following acceptance of this, the offer must be signed by a fully qualified doctor who will take full legal and financial responsibility for any injuries occurring to myself, and/or from any interactions by authorized personnel regarding these procedures.

3. In the event that I should have to decline the offer of vaccination, please confirm that it will not compromise my position and that I will not suffer prejudice and discrimination as a result.

I would also advise that my inalienable rights are reserved.”

The point is that if they CANNOT provide that information you have NOT refused. The reality is that there are no government authorities who are willing or able to provide this information. The products are promoted as “safe and effective” yet there is no sold proof that this is the case.

This approach can be utilized with any shot your employer may want you to accept: Hepatitis B, annual Flu shots, etc. This approach can also be used for anyone ‘requiring’ any shots for your child for school, camp, travel, etc. Many have received religious exemptions, but Conditional Acceptance may offer stronger protection. You could possibly be fired or terminated, but if you have documented your interactions, you may have a legal case for wrongful dismissal.

Tell them to ask your doctor for that information, which is your medical history.

He can't disclose it to them.

Maybe they will give up.