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Congrats to the Taliban


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2021 Aug 15, 6:16am   1,711 views  53 comments

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Despite not having F-15s or Nukes, they've defeated their 2nd Major Power in 4 decades. Fair play, I'd say.



Afghanistan will have a "peaceful transfer of power" to the Taliban, the country's interior minister said.
Talks are underway to form an interim government led by the militant group, CNN reported.
Ashraf Ghani, the county's president, is expected to relinquish power shortly, according to local reports.

https://www.businessinsider.com/taliban-victory-in-afghanistan-interim-government-planned-reports-2021-8

"Lies no longer last a month now"


Don't expect all the Establishment Republicans and Democrats who criticized Trump for "Withdrawing from Afghanistan too Early" to criticize Biden. Right Mittens?

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17   Ceffer   2021 Aug 15, 12:06pm  

Question is, does Biden really have the control to send troops back in in force and re-occupy? I would hazard he does not.


https://t.me/TheStormHasArrived17/4691
18   Patrick   2021 Aug 15, 12:36pm  

"Criminal globalist elite" is very appropriate and very accurate.
19   GreaterNYCDude   2021 Aug 15, 5:15pm  

So what did we gain in all of this? Two decades. Trillions of dollars (probably closer to Billions when you consider undirect costs) thousands of lives lost. For what exactly?

It wouldn't surprise me if we see ISIS pop back up next. The US is no longer feared or respected. We are laughed at by both our adversaries and our allies. The worst part is, how many average Americans are even paying attention?

Somehow we let the Islamist extremists win. Not only do they now control a large swath of territory (again) but are we safer or freer or better off than we were two decades ago? What did we prove?

I wasn't around for Vietnam but the parallels to today are sadly striking.
20   AmericanKulak   2021 Aug 15, 5:21pm  

GreaterNYCDude says
I wasn't around for Vietnam but the parallels to today are sadly striking.


We didn't finance Vietnam with debt spending to any substantial degree, at least relative to today.

It's funny but after almost 25 years of Total Republican Control of the Purse, we are in more debt than anytime in US History. And while the wars contributed to it, it was mostly non-war spending on nothing we can point our fingers to.

Now they're naked with it, by stating Welfare (Administered by Corporations) is Infrastructure.
21   Patrick   2021 Aug 15, 6:09pm  

What is the debt per citizen in terms of years of labor at the median wage?

The only real measure of value is the amount of work it takes to get something. Money is too variable to be accurate.

So says Adam Smith in The Wealth of Nations, which is surprisingly readable in spite of being in English from about the year 1776, like The Decline and Fall of the Roman Emprire. Maybe I'm just getting used to that form of English.

The connections are pretty interesting too:

Edward Gibbon enjoyed The Wealth of Nations
Adam Smith met Voltaire (I just read Candide) and Benjamin Franklin in France.
23   Ceffer   2021 Aug 15, 6:13pm  

Shit. Instead of stealing them, we're going to have to pay for them now and compete with the Chinese:
https://t.me/LibertyOverwatchChannel/5260
24   Patrick   2021 Aug 15, 6:14pm  

Ceffer says
Trump cracks me up.


Right, like the people murdering Americans and people around the world with the jab have any morals or ethics at all.

They do not.
25   mell   2021 Aug 15, 7:50pm  

Great comment on market-ticker forum:


Where was General Milley last night? Pondering which color lipstick to buy before going to bed early so he could finish reading his book on "white rage"?

And where are feminists in this country? I guess trying to cancel some guy on twitter for making a joke 20 years ago is more important than stopping the suffering of the untold number of women/girls who will fall under Taliban rule?

And the LGBTGABCSDSAD "community"? It looks like forcing a small-town bakery into making a cake celebrating their degeneracy is more important than stopping whatever fate befalls the fragile transgender community in Afghanistan.

The whole country has become a joke. We should replace the eagle as our national symbol with something more fitting. How about a morbidly obese Bozo-the-clown bending "Pat" from the old Saturday Night Live over a table, but unable to "perform"?
26   AmericanKulak   2021 Aug 15, 8:53pm  

Patrick says
Adam Smith met Voltaire (I just read Candide) and Benjamin Franklin in France.

"On one occasion, Franklin was dining at a Paris restaurant and learned that Edward Gibbon, the British historian who chronicled ancient Rome’s decline and fall, was there, too. When Gibbon declined to sit with Franklin, a rebel, Franklin replied that if Gibbon ever wanted to write a history of Britain’s decline and fall, he would provide “ample materials.”
https://bencomestoniles.blogspot.com/2009/01/edward-gibbon-and-benjamin-franklin.html

Also, beware that Bulgarian Army from the town of Dirkenduffuldorf or whatever it was called. It's the best for the best in the best of all possible worlds, for without the Indian's STDs, we would not have chocolate.
28   Patrick   2021 Aug 15, 10:58pm  

MisdemeanorRebellionNoCoupForYou says
"On one occasion, Franklin was dining at a Paris restaurant and learned that Edward Gibbon, the British historian who chronicled ancient Rome’s decline and fall, was there, too. When Gibbon declined to sit with Franklin, a rebel, Franklin replied that if Gibbon ever wanted to write a history of Britain’s decline and fall, he would provide “ample materials.”
https://bencomestoniles.blogspot.com/2009/01/edward-gibbon-and-benjamin-franklin.html


Brilliant! I love Franklin.
29   Patrick   2021 Aug 15, 11:01pm  

krc says
Good article from a year ago on how Trump was blocked from removing troops.
https://www.defenseone.com/policy/2020/07/unconventional-tactic-becomes-congresss-go-weapon-against-troop-withdrawal/166880/



A bipartisan group of House lawmakers who want to stop President Donald Trump from pulling U.S. troops from military conflicts and overseas bases are using a once-unusual tactic that has in the last three years become Congress’ go-to tool.

Lawmakers from the Senate and the House have in the last three years sought to use legislation to prevent the president from pulling troops from Afghanistan, Syria, South Korea, and now Germany — unless the administration certifies that a withdrawal will not harm U.S. or allied interests.

It’s an unusual reversal for Congress, which historically is far more likely to seek to force a return of American troops, not demand that they remain deployed.


Lol, whatever Trump wanted, they wanted the opposite, no matter how irrational or harmful to America.
33   Onvacation   2021 Aug 16, 9:49am  

MisdemeanorRebellionNoCoupForYou says
It would be a pure blessing if China tried to move in. They're not that stupid though. Their first move will be Taiwan or Vietnam.

They already tried Vietnam; they failed. Taiwan will kill a lot of PRC combatants before it falls, if it falls.

Chin's economic warfare works better than their military.
34   BoomAndBustCycle   2021 Aug 16, 9:59am  

I woulda had more respect for Biden if he came out and said beforehand this was going to be bad… thousands will die but we have to pull off the band-aid sometime. This just shows incompetence and no planning at the top.

The last 4 years I always thought the Taliban and such were biding their time until Trump was out of office to attack. Mainly because they feared he would nuke the whole country. I think I was correct. Fear of crazy is a powerful deterrent. Not that nuking a country is good policy… but Trump came across as someone who strike first.

I am curious how organized the current Taliban is? Are they just a giant mob at this point? Or is their actual sophistication … that is yet to be seen.
35   mell   2021 Aug 16, 10:02am  

This is an unmitigated disaster - never seen something like this during any US presidency in the past decades.
36   GreaterNYCDude   2021 Aug 16, 1:04pm  

1) Did they (The Taliban) violate the terms of the peace treaty the signed under Trump?

1a) if yes, why can't we go back in?

1b) If no, perhaps we should let them be.
(Although you can't trust them.)
Let somone else sort you this mess.

Edit: Shame we can't keep an embassy there. We have them in almost all the other countries we've ever been involved with.
38   Bd6r   2021 Aug 16, 2:24pm  

BoomAndBustCycle says
This just shows incompetence and no planning at the top.

The last 4 years I always thought the Taliban and such were biding their time until Trump was out of office to attack. Mainly because they feared he would nuke the whole country. I think I was correct. Fear of crazy is a powerful deterrent. Not that nuking a country is good policy… but Trump came across as someone who strike first.

I am curious how organized the current Taliban is? Are they just a giant mob at this point? Or is their actual sophistication … that is yet to be seen.


Biden did the correct thing in withdrawing, but it was not well-organized and degenerated in chaos. We can blame him all we want, but the mess there belongs to Bush.

About Taliban, it is not a giant mob, and neither it is what most press tells us about them: https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2021/08/16/afghanistan-history-taliban-collapse-504977

The guy writing this is fairly knowledgeable, and has covered Afghanistan in 1980's and 1990's.

The power of kinship led to a common arrangement whereby extended families have protected themselves by sending one son to fight with the government army or police (for pay) and another son to fight with the Taliban. This has been a strategy in many civil wars, for example, among English noble families in the 15th-century Wars of the Roses. It means that at a given point, one of the sons can desert and return home without fearing persecution by the winning side.
39   richwicks   2021 Aug 16, 2:26pm  

MisdemeanorRebellionNoCoupForYou says
It's funny but after almost 25 years of Total Republican Control of the Purse, we are in more debt than anytime in US History.


I have said this multiple times, but it's worth repeating. The US national debt, doubles every 8 years, regardless of who is president, and has been doing this since Nixon took us off the gold standard.

Here was our debt in 1971: https://www.polidiotic.com/by-the-numbers/us-national-debt-by-year/

$398,129,744,455.54

Here's what it would be if it doubled every 8 years:

1971 398,129,744,455.53
1979 796,259,488,911.07
1987 1,592,518,977,822.15
1995 3,185,037,955,644.31
2003 6,370,075,911,288.63
2011 12,740,151,822,577.27
2019 25,480,303,645,154.55
2027 50,960,607,290,309.11
2035 101,921,214,580,618.23

Here's the debt today.

https://usdebtclock.org/

We are fucked. Simple as that. At one point, we're going to have to revolt. They're going to trigger one anyhow, and they are going to seriously try to take us into communism for these mother fuckers to stay in power.
40   RC2006   2021 Aug 16, 2:40pm  

They will strip all of our saving/retirment accounts and put us all on EBT cards amounts determined by our social credit score.
41   EBGuy   2021 Aug 16, 2:43pm  

Goodnight Kabul

original link
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42   Booger   2021 Aug 16, 2:58pm  

Hitler finds out about the Taliban reconquest of Afghanistan:
https://youtu.be/8T1txBRoQxQ
43   gabbar   2021 Aug 16, 3:13pm  

Why would anyone with EVEN A HALF DEAD BRAIN, expect Afghanistan army (300k well equipped Sunnis and paid for my American taxpayer, project cost 1 trillion) fight Taliban who are also Sunnis? It would be totally Unislamic if this occurred. These bastards live and die by Islam. Does anyone have even the tiniest common sense? Is there any other nation on this planet that does something as stupid?
44   Ceffer   2021 Aug 16, 3:20pm  

gabbar says
Is there any other nation on this planet that does something as stupid?

Give Biden and Kamala a chance. i'm sure this isn't a personal best yet.
45   zzyzzx   2021 Aug 18, 7:25am  

Taliban trolling Biden:
46   BoomAndBustCycle   2021 Aug 18, 7:52am  

Dholliday126 says
The only way to really beat your enemy is to sterilize them somehow and slowly kill off the rest of the population...sound familiar?....


So Democrats plan is to sterilize and kill off all Democrats with the vaccine leaving only Republicans and anti-Vaxers left to vote in a decade? That’s a pretty bad long game strategy if that’s what you are insinuating. Also killing off or disabling your worker bees isn’t good for the hive. The queen will die.
47   WookieMan   2021 Aug 18, 7:53am  

Bd6r says
Biden did the correct thing in withdrawing, but it was not well-organized and degenerated in chaos. We can blame him all we want, but the mess there belongs to Bush.

I didn't like Bush. But it doesn't matter. A deal was brokered and Biden was too petty to stick with it because it would benefit Trump. There's no other excuse. State Department, Pentagon, Congress, etc. everyone knew the date. If they stopped preparing for some reason, the only one that could have done that is Biden or he's not leading and managing those he has control over. It's an embarrassing disaster for the US. Far more so than electing a celebrity persona like Trump.

You can love or hate Trump, but it's pretty indisputable he mostly did a good job. It was the most peaceful presidency in my lifetime which is what I thought most people wanted. The economy finally rebounded instead of Obama's empty words words and 1% growth at best.

What Biden did with this is probably a top 10 and maybe top 5 embarrassment for the US ever. I was willing to give him a chance, but what was/is happening is totally not acceptable and we can't blame Bush still. If I'm handed a mess at work caused by someone else, I'd man up and get the job done. Can't blame Trump, Obama or Bush. You inherited a mess and you made it worse. That's on Biden and his weakness as a man for not sticking to the terms of an agreement and executing it. His job is to protect Americans, he didn't. Failure.

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