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So make more of CA like east LA. Overcrowded lots, residential streets full of cars.

It's not worth much if the permits are hard to get and take forever and inflation is prohibitive for construction/renovation. We'll see, I expect supply to stay tight. With exploding inflation there is not much incentive to build.

Does this mean I can split up one of my California crap shacks and turn them into Section 8 tenements? Can I go multi story? Section 8 to the sky and beyond!

RC2006 says

So make more of CA like east LA. Overcrowded lots, residential streets full of cars.

Add the retarded traffic planning and shutting down all vital streets this is going to congest the city even more. There is hardly anyone out and about since !covid! started, a fraction of people that used to be in SF, yet the streets are clogged. These morons will continue to drive the city into the ground even further. Luckily we're just passing through these days.

Any area outlined in green is an urbanized area or cluster. Single Family Home zoning has been eliminated in these areas. If you are a SFH homeowner in any of these areas, congratulations: You've been upzoned!

Minimum size allowed after lot split: 1,200 sq.ft (max ratio allowed 60/40).

Will we next see that new CA govt real estate investment fund to raise capital to build more homes on these lots?

If so, I bet the capital loans will come with being beholden to dem wokeness regulations.

They want to make CA a dem stronghold for generations.

EBGuy says

Minimum size allowed after lot split: 1,200 sq.ft (max ratio allowed 60/40).

How long before the halfs can be split again?

FuckCCP89 says

How long before the halfs can be split again?

You can only do it once using this statute. And to prevent rampant speculation, owner must sign an affidavit saying they will live there for three years, so, in the short term, Section 8, or problematic neighbors, are less likely.

EBGuy says

owner must sign an affidavit saying they will live there for three years

This is why God invented postal boxes.

EBGuy says

owner must sign an affidavit saying they will live there for three years

"Live there" where? On two lots simultaneously?

Eric Holder says

"Live there" where? On two lots simultaneously?

(g) (1) A local agency shall require an applicant for an urban lot split to sign an affidavit stating that the applicant intends to occupy one of the housing units as their principal residence for a minimum of three years from the date of the approval of the urban lot split.

EBGuy says

Eric Holder says

"Live there" where? On two lots simultaneously?

(g) (1) A local agency shall require an applicant for an urban lot split to sign an affidavit stating that the applicant intends to occupy one of the housing units as their principal residence for a minimum of three years from the date of the approval of the urban lot split.

Split your lot in half. Sell the other half to your kid. Live on the fist half for 3 years. Split it again. Sell one to your other kid. Meanwhile your kids split their lots in half.... and so on and so forth until we have umpteen 1200 sq.ft lots on the street in a mere decade or two. =))

US needs some level of population control to combat issues like this. I know it's hard, look at south, they look like invasion not immigration anymore with Biden. Housing situation will never get improved with rapid population growth.

Eric Holder says

Split your lot in half. Sell the other half to your kid. Live on the fist half for 3 years. Split it again. Sell one to your other kid. Meanwhile your kids split their lots in half.... and so on and so forth until we have umpteen 1200 sq.ft lots on the street in a mere decade or two. =))

Can only be done once.
(3) The parcel being subdivided meets all the following requirements:
,,,
(F) The parcel has not been established through prior exercise of an urban lot split as provided for in this section.
(G) Neither the owner of the parcel being subdivided nor any person acting in concert with the owner has previously subdivided an adjacent parcel using an urban lot split as provided for in this section.

EBGuy says

FuckCCP89 says

How long before the halfs can be split again?

You can only do it once using this statute. And to prevent rampant speculation, owner must sign an affidavit saying they will live there for three years, so, in the short term, Section 8, or problematic neighbors, are less likely.

Enforced by the State Government that was scammed out of 11 BILLION dollars in COVID unemployment frauds. So stupid and inattentive they were sending multiple checks to the same mail forwarding addresses. Sending checks to prison inmates.

HunterTits says

EBGuy says

(G) Neither the owner of the parcel being subdivided nor any person acting in concert with the owner has previously subdivided an adjacent parcel using an urban lot split as provided for in this section.

Doesn't mean it can't be done more than once. Transferring title after doing it the first time to an LLC or trust, for example, means it can be done a second time.

And "in concert" is practically impossible to prove. It's gonna be a shitshow of epic proportions.

Eric Holder says

Split your lot in half. Sell the other half to your kid. Live on the fist half for 3 years. Split it again. Sell one to your other kid. Meanwhile your kids split their lots in half.... and so on and so forth until we have umpteen 1200 sq.ft lots on the street in a mere decade or two. =))

**Bangalore by the Bay**
Or maybe more accurately Ciudad Neza Norte

HunterTits says

Transferring title after doing it the first time to an LLC or trust, for example, means it can be done a second time.

Sometimes I think you guys are intentionally obtuse. I already posted this in attempt to answer you question about multiple splits.
(3) The parcel being subdivided meets all the following requirements:
,,,
(F) The parcel has not been established through prior exercise of an urban lot split as provided for in this section.
Provision (F) means you can't do this multiple times.

Here's link to the complete text of SB-9 Housing development: approvals.

EBGuy says

Eric Holder says

"Live there" where? On two lots simultaneously?

(g) (1) A local agency shall require an applicant for an urban lot split to sign an affidavit stating that the applicant intends to occupy one of the housing units as their principal residence for a minimum of three years from the date of the approval of the urban lot split.

1) after 3 years, the owner can move and rent out their unit.
2) due to unforeseen circumstances and/or job relocation, the owner can rent their unit out in less than 3 years. There is no way the city will/can enforce this IMO.
3) my SFH rentals have become more valuable as the value is in the land. 💰

mell says

It's not worth much if the permits are hard to get and take forever and inflation is prohibitive for construction/renovation. We'll see, I expect supply to stay tight. With exploding inflation there is not much incentive to build.

Valid reasons/concerns. I’m sure cities will put a bunch of overlays to make it ultra difficult to obtain permits. I’m sure developers and homeowners will be suing local cities over the difficult of obtaining permits for construction.