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A Southwest Airlines pilot explains why you will not hear anything about vaccine mandates from his union


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2021 Oct 10, 5:57pm   1,706 views  73 comments

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URGENT: A Southwest Airlines pilot explains why you will not hear anything about vaccine mandates from his union - and why Southwest has more flexibility than it admits to stand up to the White House
Alex Berenson 2 hr ago
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The pilot emailed following the first Southwest post today (and provided his SWA ID to prove his identity). He asked that I paraphrase the email.

Essentially, the union cannot organize or even acknowledge the sickout, because doing so would make it an illegal job action. Years ago, Southwest and its pilots had a rough negotiation, and the union would not even let the pilots internally discuss the possibility of working-to-rule (which would have slowed Southwest to a crawl).

But at the moment the pilots don’t even have to talk to each other about what they’re doing. The anger internally - not just among pilots but other Southwest workers - is enormous. The tough prior negotiations notwithstanding, Southwest has a history of decent labor relations, and workers believe the company should stand up for them against the mandate. Telling pilots in particular to comply or face termination has backfired.



Meanwhile, Southwest has more flexibility than it has acknowledged. Federal contracts represent about 3 percent of its revenue, but even the Biden administration CANNOT alter existing contracts (please note, I have not checked this, though it seems reasonable); Southwest is only at risk of losing future contracts.

This pilot believes that the fact that the airlines received $25 billion in no-strings-attached cash for “payroll support” last year (as well another $25 billion in loans) has made them particularly reluctant to stand up to the Biden administration. Southwest’s CEO, Gary Kelly, may be in an especially tough spot since he is the head of the airline lobbying group.



Finally: This pilot says he loves Southwest and finds the crisis painful but feels that if this is the only way Americans can stand up to these mandates, then let the chips fall.


Also:

https://nitter.pussthecat.org/Anabel_Villeroy/status/1447378890255654918#m


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61   AmericanKulak   2021 Oct 31, 9:09pm  

One would think that crappy weather would effect multiple airlines at the same time.
62   RWSGFY   2021 Oct 31, 9:39pm  

MisdemeanorRebellionNoCoupForYou says
One would think that crappy weather would effect multiple airlines at the same time.


YOU DONT UNDERSTAND CLIMATE CHANGE!!!
64   AmericanKulak   2021 Nov 1, 12:27pm  

SW isn't on the list, but there's only a handful of delays with the other Big Airlines.
65   Patrick   2021 Nov 2, 3:49pm  

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2021/10/31/companies-warn-biden-administration-they-may-need-to-drop-fed-contractor-status-because-workers-will-not-comply-with-vaccine-mandate-meanwhile-american-airlines-cancels-1700-flights-this-weekend/


Companies Warn Biden Administration They May Need to Drop Fed Contractor Status Because Workers Will Not Comply With Vaccine Mandate, Meanwhile American Airlines Cancels 1,700 Flights This Weekend
October 31, 2021
66   Patrick   2021 Nov 2, 5:49pm  

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/10/breaking-exclusive-american-airlines-cancels-98-flights-phoenix-sky-harbor-whistleblower-reveals-weather-not-cause-crew-shortages/


American Airlines Cancels 104 Flights At Phoenix Sky Harbor – Whistleblower Reveals Weather Is NOT The Cause, It’s Crew Shortages
By Jordan Conradson
Published October 31, 2021 at 8:44pm
67   Patrick   2021 Nov 4, 4:59pm  

https://alexberenson.substack.com/p/hey-remember-how-american-airlines/comments


Hey, remember how American Airlines cancelled all those flights last weekend…
Alex Berenson 54 min ago
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And blamed the weather? It was too windy in Dallas or too sunny in Fresno or too cloudy in Miami or something?

So that was… not so true.

Turns out close to 90% of the cancellations were “crew”-related. Which DEFINITELY has nothing to do with the civil war over vaccine mandates that has now reached such a pitch that American’s own pilots are worried about it becoming a cockpit distraction.

And this potential distraction DEFINITELY won’t get worse now that the feds have finally issued their official mandate rules.

Enjoy your trip!
68   WookieMan   2021 Nov 4, 7:59pm  

Patrick says
And this potential distraction DEFINITELY won’t get worse now that the feds have finally issued their official mandate rules.

Ugh. Flying down to Nashville in two weeks and then flying back the Wednesday before Thanksgiving for a 40th b-day trip. Probably the worst time to fly. We'll see how it goes. Flying out of ORD this time too on Southwest. Will be a first since they started service there. I can't stand ORD. Splitting a limo though, so beer will be pounded since you can't drink on flights anymore unless first class (other airlines).

I also hate Nashville. With a passion. The bars there suck balls. I can't stand country music. Not my 40th though. We are going to see Opeth Tuesday night before we leave. Will be my first progressive heavy metal show. Looking forward to that part. Otherwise I'm gonna spend time at the pool and the room mostly, outside of group activities. Trashville is filled with fake cowboys and awful music. Not my idea of a vacation, but kid free with the wife is good in my book any time.
69   Patrick   2021 Nov 4, 8:48pm  

Thanks @WookieMan

I was actually thinking of flying to Nashville to visit a literally distant cousin, but it doesn't sound too good now.
70   WookieMan   2021 Nov 4, 8:56pm  

My mom discovered (I told her) that I'm not vaccinated and I have no plan to get vaccinated. The initial look on her face was priceless. I was honest and told her I was scared to take it, don't know long term effects and I'm healthy enough to survive Covid 99.99%. I know she didn't like my take, but she respected it.

Most people don't like conflict in person. Most people will listen if you're not aggressive about it and can explain your position. Us that don't want to take it, generally have very logical explanations as to why we don't want to take it. EMERGENCY use off the top of the conversation is enough. I don't think most know this isn't really an approved vaccine.
71   Patrick   2021 Nov 4, 9:05pm  

WookieMan says
EMERGENCY use off the top of the conversation is enough.


Good point. No need to get into the details if they can understand that it's still EUA, not approved, and obviously had no long-term testing because there hasn't been any long-term yet.
72   Onvacation   2021 Nov 4, 10:01pm  

Patrick says
there hasn't been any long-term yet.

Less than a year for most. Seems like longer.

Covid time is strange.
73   AmericanKulak   2021 Nov 4, 11:19pm  

Patrick says
Thanks @WookieMan

I was actually thinking of flying to Nashville to visit a literally distant cousin, but it doesn't sound too good now.


Tennessee seemed nice, but it's undergoing the full North Carolina/Montana experience and being flooded with Dems, escaping their hellholes but bringing hellhole policy support with them.

"We just didn't do it the right way in Chicagoland/Minneapolis. We'll do it better here, you'll see. "

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