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The Amish Are Doing Fine Without The Vaxx


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2021 Oct 11, 9:49am   1,791 views  34 comments

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https://fullmeasure.news/news/shows/amish-covid


When it comes to actions taken to address the Covid-19 threat, hindsight is still very much underway. For your consideration: a story and outcome you probably aren't hearing much about anywhere else. It takes place in the heart of Amish country.

Lancaster County, Pennsylvania: thousands of families lead lives largely separate from modern America.

The Amish are a Christian group that emphasizes the virtuous over the superficial. They don’t usually drive, use electricity, or have TVs. And during the Covid-19 outbreak, they became subjects in a massive social and medical experiment.

Sharyl: So, it's safe to say there was a whole different approach here in this community when coronavirus broke out than many other places?

Calvin Lapp: Absolutely.

Calvin Lapp is Amish Mennonite.

Lapp: There’s three things the Amish don't like. And that's government— they won't get involved in the government, they don't like the public education system— they won't send their children to education, and they also don't like the health system. They rip us off. Those are three things that we feel like we're fighting against all the time. Well, those three things are all part of what Covid is.

After a short shutdown last year, the Amish chose a unique path that led to Covid-19 tearing through at warp speed. It began with an important religious holiday in May.

Lapp: When they take communion, they dump their wine into a cup and they take turns to drink out of that cup. So, you go the whole way down the line, and everybody drinks out of that cup, if one person has coronavirus, the rest of church is going to get coronavirus. The first time they went back to church, everybody got coronavirus.

Lapp says they weren’t denying coronavirus, they were facing it head on.

Lapp: It’s a worse thing to quit working than dying. Working is more important than dying. But to shut down and say that we can't go to church, we can't get together with family, we can't see our old people in the hospital, we got to quit working? It's going completely against everything that we believe. You're changing our culture completely to try to act like they wanted us to act the last year, and we're not going to do it.

Steve Nolt is a scholar on Amish and Mennonite culture, and Mennonite himself. He’s studying Amish news publications to analyze community-wide trends.

Sharyl: So, are you saying, as of about May of 2020, things kind of went back to normal in the Amish community?

Steve Nolt: For the most part, yeah, by the middle of May, it's sort of like back to a typical behavior again.

That also meant avoiding hospitals.

Nolt: I know of some cases in which Amish people refused to go to the hospital, even when they were very sick because if they went there, they wouldn't be able to have visitors. And it was more important to be sick, even very sick at home and have the ability to have some people around you than to go to the hospital and be isolated.

Then, last March, remarkable news. The Lancaster County Amish were reported to be the first community to achieve “herd immunity,” meaning a large part of a population had been infected with Covid-19 and became immune.

Some outsiders are skeptical, and solid proof is hard to come by.

Nolt: Even those who believed that they had Covid tended not to get tested. Their approach tended to be, “I'm sick. I know I'm sick. I don't have to have someone else telling me I'm sick.” Or a concern that if they got a positive test, they would then be asked to really dramatically limit what they were doing in a way that might be uncomfortable for them. So, we don't have that testing number.

Lapp: We didn't want the numbers to go up, because then they would shut things more. What's the advantage of getting a test?

One thing’s clear: there's no evidence of any more deaths among the Amish than in places that shut down tight— some claim there were fewer here. That’s without masking, staying at home, or another important measure.

Sharyl: Did most of the community, at least the adults, get the Covid-19 vaccine?

Nolt: Again, we don't have data on that, but I think it's pretty clear that in percentage terms, relatively few did.

Lapp: Oh, we're glad all the English people got their Covid vaccines. That's great. Because now we don't have to wear a mask, we can do what we want. So good for you. Thank you. We appreciate it. Us? No, we're not getting vaccines. Of course not. We all got the Covid, so why would you get a vaccine?

By staying open, the Amish here have one tangible 2020 accomplishment few others can claim.

Lapp: We have this joke: when everybody else started walking, we started running. We made more money in the last year than we ever did. It was our best year ever.

Did the Amish really find a magic formula? They say yes. And they don’t care who doubts it.

Lapp: Yeah, all the Amish know we got herd immunity. Of course we got herd immunity! The whole church gets coronavirus. We know we got coronavirus. We think we’re smarter than everybody. We shouldn’t be bragging, but we think we did the right thing.

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14   fdhfoiehfeoi   2022 Aug 17, 8:34pm  

WookieMan says

The problem is I drink shitty beer.


You should really do something about that. Don't have to go to Germany to get German beer. Paulner is pretty common, and there's a few other breweries from there with pretty good distribution.
15   fdhfoiehfeoi   2022 Aug 17, 8:39pm  

AmericanKulak says

Real Ale, not Lagers.


Hey, nothing wrong with good(micro-brew) lagers. Especially this time of year. It's a style that was mostly ignored by the craft beer industry until about five years ago. I prefer wild yeast sours, but I'll go for a good lager when I can find it.

One that's starting to become rare now days is a bitter IPA. Everything is cloudy and floral. I actually bought a six pack of Stone IPA for the first time in five years just to get something bitter.
16   WookieMan   2022 Aug 18, 4:13am  

NuttBoxer says

You should really do something about that.

I appreciated the advice. I've drank over probably 800 varieties of beer. My buddy and I would each grab a 6 pack, once or twice a week in my younger years. We'd share them and try them out (4 a week for roughly 2 years). We'd cut the cardboard and pin it to the wall. We eventually filled a 15x8' wall with 6 pack cardboard.

He actually through this found out he can't drink he favorite beer. Wheat/glutton or whatever allergy. I don't "know" beer or claim to be an expert, but I've tried almost everything that is marketable on a national and local scale.

I only say shitty beer too because people are snobs about it. I also need to stick with light beer in all honesty. I can have 3-4 of those and feel fine the next day, but heavy beers I feel like shit, even if I like the taste.
17   fdhfoiehfeoi   2022 Aug 18, 9:58am  

WookieMan says

He actually through this found out he can't drink he favorite beer. Wheat/glutton or whatever allergy.


I've seen gluten free beer.

WookieMan says

I only say shitty beer too because people are snobs about it. I also need to stick with light beer in all honesty. I can have 3-4 of those and feel fine the next day, but heavy beers I feel like shit, even if I like the taste.


I used to drink Russian Imperial Stouts when I was younger, can't do it anymore. I mentioned sours, they're low on sugar, and lower on alcohol. Nothing wrong with sticking to what you enjoy, and what doesn't mess you up. Just saying there's so many small brewers who make quality beer, including lighter and lower alcohol varieties, that we should never shut ourselves off from a new experience.

One of the best beers I've ever had was around 3%.
18   Patrick   2022 Aug 18, 1:00pm  

NuttBoxer says

Don't have to go to Germany to get German beer.


Sadly, they pasteurize what they export, which is like pasteurizing a delicate flower. Just kills it.
20   Leo1980   2022 Sep 25, 1:31pm  

Augustiner Edelstoff... unfortunately it gets rarely exported from Germany. But I leave crazy California anyway
21   Patrick   2023 Jun 1, 9:21am  

https://www.eutimes.net/2023/05/the-amish-rejected-covid-vaccines-lockdowns-and-masks-the-result-30x-less-deaths/


Amish communities rejected Covid vaccines, refused to wear masks, and went about their normal daily activities while the rest of America was turned upside-down.

According to the CDC and mainstream media, the Amish were set to suffer from excess death due to Covid. In reality, the exact opposite happened.

The mainstream media will not touch this story because it completely dismantles the entire establishment narrative. It shows that all the COVID interventions were completely unnecessary.

While mainstream America was suffering through lockdowns, school closures and mask-related madness, the Amish returned to normal in May 2020. Read that again.

The Amish achieved herd immunity before the vaccines were even available.

Even if the vaccine worked and was safe, there was simply no reason for them to take the vaccine because 90% had already been infected in 2020. Taking a vaccine after you’ve already got natural immunity is nonsensical and counterproductive. However, in the US, we were told to get the vaccine even if we recovered from COVID. Many people lost their livelihoods if they did not comply. ...

This all happened because voices of reason were silenced. Free speech, debate, etc. was tossed out the window. Any doctor who stood against the “consensus” was crushed into oblivion.

The leaders of America need to stop listening to the people they trusted, and start listening to the people they labeled “misinformation spreaders.” They got it completely backwards.

You should never trust the CDC, mainstream media, or members of Congress again until they admit their mistakes, vow never to support censorship again, and always listen to people on both sides of an issue before making a decision.
22   Ceffer   2023 Jun 1, 11:20am  

The Amish all died from Covid. Everybody knows that. They have joined Tiffany Dover in the irreconcilable void.
23   zzyzzx   2023 Jun 1, 11:50am  

Obligatory:
Unrated scene from the movie "Sex Drive" - not in the normal version of this movie
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vz40dXTASDA
24   DhammaStep   2023 Jun 1, 12:58pm  

zzyzzx says

Obligatory:
Unrated scene from the movie "Sex Drive" - not in the normal version of this movie
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vz40dXTASDA

Hah! I forgot about that film. Was a good drunk raunchy time with the boys many years ago.

The answer is obvious though. It is clear that the Amish are behind COVID and the vaccine. Their depopulation and Amishification plan is full speed ahead.
25   richwicks   2023 Jun 1, 6:22pm  

DhammaStep says

The answer is obvious though. It is clear that the Amish are behind COVID and the vaccine. Their depopulation and Amishification plan is full speed ahead.


As an engineer, I don't know if it would be that awful to be Amish.

We created all this tech, and I don't know if it works. The whole point was so everybody could be on the same playing field of knowledge, and there's just endless bullshit and it takes a LOT OF TIME, to sort out the bullshit from the information.

And the playing field isn't even either. Try to make a video about global warming is bullshit on youtube. Good luck.
26   pudil   2023 Jun 1, 6:39pm  

I’m going to start the new Amish but I’m going to pause technology at 1999.

We had cell phones, computers, simple internet, video stores where you could rent any movie. Great music that you owned on cds that you bought. Fight club came out.

No social media, pornhub, ai, or transgenders. People were cool with gays, but no pride month.

1999 was the last good year.
27   HeadSet   2023 Jun 2, 8:15am  

pudil says

1999 was the last good year.

In 2035, you may be writing:

"2025 was the last good year. No 15-minute cities and people could actually own cars and drive anywhere at will. Pedophilia was illegal and not celebrated as part of Pride Month. We didn't have a social credit score. People were free to date who they choose without social credit downgrades for refusing a transgender, gay or someone outside their race. Women had separate shower and bath facilities."
28   Patrick   2023 Jun 28, 1:02pm  

https://vigilantfox.substack.com/p/the-amish-died-of-covid-at-a-rate


So, you look at the Amish. I did the calculation. Let’s say there were five Amish people — because people say, I think there were maybe a few, or maybe there were five Amish people. And then I asked them, okay, can you name them? And nobody can name them.

But let’s say that we could name them — and there were five Amish people who died. That means the Amish died at a rate 90 times lower than the infection fatality rate of the United States of America. The Amish died at 90 times lower rate from COVID than America — than the rest of America.

Now, how is that possible? It’s possible because the Amish aren’t vaccinated. And because the Amish didn’t follow a single guideline of the CDC. They did not lock down. They did not mask. They did not social distance, They did not vaccinate, and there were no mandates in the Amish community to get vaccinated. They basically ignored every single guideline that the CDC gave us. Ignoring those guidelines meant a death rate 90 times lower than the rest of America.

So you talk about taking guidance from the WHO? Why don’t we copy what works? In fact, wouldn’t it be great to say in the next pandemic that Pennsylvania will take guidance from the Amish instead of the WHO? And you will be much, much better off.
32   Onvacation   2024 Mar 19, 4:35pm  

Many of us noticed early in the pandemic the lack of homeless deaths. It was pretty obvious that this disease could not be too dangerous if the homeless, often of poor health with little healthcare, weren't dying en masse.
33   Patrick   2024 Mar 19, 8:17pm  

True! I saw for myself that the SF homeless were doing fine all through the "pandemic". So it wasn't really a pandemic at all. It was bullshit used to justify mail-in ballots and to make money.

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