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One doctor with integrity among so many who have none


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2021 Oct 31, 9:36am   35,305 views  239 comments

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https://www.theepochtimes.com/mkt_morningbrief/i-had-to-stand-up-and-try-to-do-something-professor-of-medicine-on-suing-school-over-vaccine-mandate_4074750.html?utm_source=patrick.net&utm_medium=patrick.net&utm_campaign=patrick.net


‘I Had to Stand up and Try to Do Something:’ Professor of Medicine on Suing School Over Vaccine Mandate

BY JAN JEKIELEK AND ZACHARY STIEBER October 28, 2021

Dr. Aaron Kheriaty reacted to the COVID-19 pandemic like many other medical experts. He worked long hours as the United States tried to grapple with the new disease. He had too many conversations with family members whose loved ones were dying from it.

But as time wore on, he started noticing a pattern in public health decisions that seemed to diverge from traditional medical ethics, including an insistence that people at little risk from COVID-19 get a vaccine.

Kheriaty is now on suspension from the University of California, Irvine, (UCI) and challenging the school’s COVID-19 vaccine mandate in court.

“I had to stand up and try to do something about it,” the professor of psychiatry and director of the UCI Health’s Medical Ethics Program said on The Epoch Times’ “American Thought Leaders.”

"I knew that I would wake up in the morning & not have a clear conscience."

Deep-dive w/ medical ethics prof @akheriaty who filed a lawsuit challenging his university's #VaccineMandate. He was suspended & put on "investigatory leave."

🔴WATCH PART 1: https://t.co/gDuQ1J5jjn pic.twitter.com/E3ByL1pIWW

— Jan Jekielek (@JanJekielek) October 30, 2021

UCI spokespeople declined to comment for this story.

‘Liberating’

Kheriaty contracted COVID-19, the disease caused by the CCP (Chinese Communist Party) virus, in mid-2020. His infection was confirmed by two different tests from two independent labs. His five children and wife also contracted the disease. They all recovered, with none requiring hospital care.

“It was, for me, actually a very liberating experience afterward, because I didn’t have to worry about the illness anymore. I knew the science on natural immunity,” Kheriaty said.

Natural immunity refers to when people contract COVID-19 and recover. Dozens of studies have documented that these individuals enjoy strong immunity against CCP virus re-infection. Some of the studies suggest the immunity is superior to that provided by COVID-19 vaccines, particularly the Johnson & Johnson one.

“I knew that at that point, I was among the safest people to be around, I didn’t have to worry about transmitting the infection to my patients,” Kheriaty said.

He continued taking precautions, wearing personal protective equipment like masks as required at the hospital. But he was confident he didn’t pose a risk to others, which served as a relief.

That relief turned into disbelief when, around a year later, the University of California system, which includes UCI, imposed a COVID-19 vaccine mandate.

Opt-Out is Temporary

The mandate (pdf) included a natural immunity opt-out, but only temporarily. People who recovered from COVID-19 were told they would only be exempt from the mandate for up to 90 days after their diagnosis.

University officials cited the Food and Drug Administration (FDA), which alleges that the antibody tests it has authorized “are not validated to evaluate specific immunity or protection from SARS-CoV-2 infection.”

SARS-CoV-2 is another name for the CCP virus.

“For this reason, individuals who have been diagnosed with COVID-19 or had an antibody test are not permanently exempt from vaccination,” officials said.

The mandate violated rights outlined in the U.S. Constitution’s Fourteenth Amendment, including equal protection and substantive due process, Kheriaty’s lawsuit asserts.

“Plaintiff is naturally immune to SARS-CoV-2. Therefore, plaintiff is at least as equally situated as those who are fully vaccinated with a COVID-19 vaccine, yet defendants deny plaintiff equal treatment and seek to burden Plaintiff with an unnecessary violation of bodily integrity to which plaintiff does not consent in order to be allowed to continue to work at UCI,” it states.

The situation creates two classes, vaccinated and unvaccinated, when a more reasonable division would be those who are immune and those who are not, Kheriaty believes.

“What kind of discriminatory policies do we have in place that are excluding someone like me from the workplace when I’m 99.8 percent protected against reinfection whereas someone who got the Johnson & Johnson vaccine, by the company’s own data that they submitted to the FDA, is 67 percent protective against COVID infection?” he said.

Whose Burden?

Kheriaty initially planned to get a COVID-19 vaccine. Now he’s working to change the narrative around mandates. ...

Most mandates across the country don’t have alternatives for people who had COVID-19 and recovered.

Kheriaty proposes putting the burden of proof on people who want to opt out.

“Just have them go get the testing on their own time. You don’t have to administer the T-cell test or the antibody test. You don’t have to go dig up their old medical record establishing that they’ve already had COVID,” he said.

“Just ask them to bring that in and sign off on that as a kind of immunity passport.”

Side Effects ...

Kheriaty worries about other research that seems to show vaccine recipients with natural immunity experience side effects at a higher frequency than those who are not immune who get a shot.

“There are now about five independent studies that strongly suggest that individuals that already have natural immunity, when you vaccinate them, the risk of vaccine adverse events or vaccine side effects is higher for that group,” the professor said. “They have higher risk of side effects from the vaccine. It’s not going to help the people around them because natural immunity already is sterilizing, [yet] we don’t yet have any COVID vaccines that offer sterilizing immunity.”

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14   Patrick   2021 Dec 5, 8:34pm  

Another doctor with integrity:

https://reclaimthenet.org/uk-court-sides-with-doctor-fired-over-covid-narrative-skepticism-on-social-media/?source=patrick.net


December 5, 2021
UK High Court sides with doctor who was fired over Covid narrative skepticism on social media
The court cited the free speech section of the Human Rights Act of 1998.
By Dan Frieth

A court in the UK has ruled that the General Medical Council was wrong to ban a doctor from discussing Covid on social media.

We obtained a copy of the ruling for you here.

The GMC banned the doctor from social media for posting a video claiming masks do not work and casting doubts on the efficiency of the vaccines.

In November, Dr. Samuel White appealed against interim restrictions posed against him by the GMC after alleged complaints over a video he posted in Instagram and Twitter.

Until February, when he resigned, Dr. White was a partner at Denmead Practice, in Hampshire.

In June, he posted a video on social media explaining why he resigned. He said he could no longer “stomach or tolerate” the “lies” around the government’s and NHS’ approach to the pandemic. He also cast doubt on the safety of the Covid vaccines and said “masks do nothing.”
15   Patrick   2021 Dec 16, 10:10am  



"Medicine" is now profoundly corrupted by Pfizer and Pfauci.

You can never really trust any doctor again, except for the very few that spoke out against this.
16   Karloff   2021 Dec 16, 1:16pm  

In time you'll see these propaganda posters as examples next to the old WWII ones. The difference is that these ones are even more blatant and extreme in their manipulation.
17   Ceffer   2021 Dec 16, 1:27pm  

It's the ethical cave-in of Rockefeller allopathic medicine. Rockefellers fund and dominate medicine to find ways that would allow them and their anointed richfucks to live forever. Some therapies are effective, and filter down to the peasants by well meaning doctors.

However, the mandate is not for the peasants, the mandate is for control. Also, Rockefeller medicine treats medicine the same way they treated the oil industry: maximize profits and crush all competition until you possess the absolute monarchial monopoly. Patients are profit centers for targeted industries. Anybody with cheap, alternative, effective alternatives that might compete are bought out and their information suppressed, or they are crushed or assassinated.

We see this modus operandi vividly with Covid's political agenda to destroy human rights and engage democide for the Globalists. Any truly effective alternative is simply censored or crushed. The Rockefellers developed this medical army over the years, and they have decided now is the time to deploy it in force against the populace to gain full control.

Our internist at Kaiser seemed all right for years, but probably two years ago (paralleling Covid tyranny?) something changed with him and he seemed to finally abdicate to the agendas, fuck the Hippocratic Oath. Kaiser is fully on board with Rockefeller allopathic tyranny at this point. Profits and control uber alles, and who cares how we vivisect and exploit the dumfuk sheeples.
18   Patrick   2021 Dec 16, 1:39pm  

Kaiser just sent me an email "reminder" to get a "flu shot" with no reply allowed and no way to opt out of the email.

No fucking way am I getting that shot either. I do not trust your injections in the least anymore, Kaiser.
19   mell   2021 Dec 16, 6:22pm  

Patrick says
Kaiser just sent me an email "reminder" to get a "flu shot" with no reply allowed and no way to opt out of the email.

No fucking way am I getting that shot either. I do not trust your injections in the least anymore, Kaiser.


I started shopping for a family physician for a physical next year and actually found a practice but it was a long road. One group called marin health told me first that the physician I picked does not take new patients (a clear indication that the medical industry is a racket) but they could assign me to another one as long as I am jabbed. So I let them repeat since I thought I misheard, then told them that that bullshit is flat out coercion and hung up, and been telling everyone who cares even a bit to avoid them. Avoid marin health group. And kaiser, they told my wife right after delivery to take the jab so she can go to Hawaii. Fuck them, luckily the md left on her own volition before I got too enraged
20   Patrick   2021 Dec 17, 4:16am  

Thank you for this @mell

It is a public service to tell jab-happy doctors to piss off.
22   Ceffer   2021 Dec 18, 12:55pm  

Patrick says
Kaiser just sent me an email "reminder" to get a "flu shot" with no reply allowed and no way to opt out of the email.

No fucking way am I getting that shot either. I do not trust your injections in the least anymore, Kaiser.


They are trying to combine 'flu' shots with the clot shot. I wouldn't put it past them to try to sneak the clot shot into your arm, since informed consent has died when it comes to the Plandemic.
23   Patrick   2022 Jan 3, 5:50pm  

Another doctor with integrity:

https://stevekirsch.substack.com/p/why-dr-james-thorp-is-a-hero-but?source=patrick.net


Last night, January 2, I had the honor to interview Dr. James Thorp, an ObGyn Maternal Fetal Medicine specialist in Gulf Breeze, Florida who has chosen to honor his duty to his patients and tell them the truth about the safety of the COVID vaccines.

The full Thorp interview can be found here. ...

Any healthcare provider who spreads any misinformation (in the view of their governing Board for their specialty), will have their license to practice medicine revoked. The Medical Boards are the judge, jury, and executioner. Whatever they say goes.

This censorship technique works. It keeps virtually all healthcare professionals silenced about what they are seeing. Nobody wants to lose their career. The doctors just do the best they can under the circumstances: they tell patients to take the jab, and then tell the family it was bad luck when they die, that it was not related to the vaccine.

Dr. Thorp is risking his career by speaking out the truth about what is going on.

There are very few others who will take such risks because they know the consequences of truth telling: the end of the career that they worked so hard to create.

Why the medical boards will win in court

We talked about why, even though Dr. Thorp is being honest about the vaccines, masking, mandates, and early treatment, the medical boards are likely to prevail in a court of law even though the science is clear that Thorp is correct.

The reason is simple: judges don’t believe they can adjudicate the merits of medical arguments, so they always side with the “respected authorities.” The medical boards simply say, “See your honor, every doctor in the country says the vaccines are safe. Dr. Thorp is a quack and a danger to society.” It works every time.

Is there a viable way out of this mess?

So Thorp is doing the right thing as a doctor, but it means he’ll be unable to practice medicine (until the wheels come off the bus) because telling the truth is not allowed.

This is why all doctors support whatever the CDC says. To do otherwise, ends their career. And there is nothing you or I can do about it.

Any state governor could end this. But politicians almost never take unnecessary risks that could subject them to criticism. Today, there is no governor in America that has the courage to challenge the medical boards, not even Ron DeSantis. Any governor who challenged the Medical Boards would be immediately labelled “anti-science.” Bad PR. It’s never going to happen.

The only way left to get out

We are left with the only way to win this is for 100,000 medical providers to go public with the truth on the same day. Then the Medical Boards can no longer make the argument that Thorp is wrong. Thorp will have overwhelming support from his peers. Now the tables will be turned; it opens up the potential for the members of the medical boards to be held personally liable.

That’s why it is so important that if you know a healthcare provider who believes in free speech that you encourage them to join this substack. Now.

Jim wrote me earlier:
I am extremely concerned about the ‘gag order’ that has been placed upon every single physician and nurse in the USA via the governing bodies including the Federation of State Medical Boards (FSMB.org), The American Board of Medical Specialties (ABMS.org) and the American Association of Nursing Colleges (AANC.org).

ABMS includes over 100 different medical specialties (about 25) and medical subspecialties (>80) and have threatened all physicians as has the FSMB and all the nurses AANC in the USA.

I believe this is unethical, immoral, illegal, illegitimate and unconstitutional.


I like the idea of 100,000 speaking out on the same day.
24   Patrick   2022 Jan 8, 8:32pm  

https://stevekirsch.substack.com/p/there-are-3142-public-health-officers?source=patrick.net


There are over 3,142 public health officers in the US. Can you name one who follows the science?
Is there a county public health officer who doesn't follow whatever the CDC say without question? See this article for the full list of these courageous public health officers.


7 hr ago

Here’s the list of public health official who do not blindly follow whatever the CDC says:

Joseph Ladapo (Surgeon General of Florida)

Lorrin Pang, Maui Health Officer

Yeah, that’s right. Only two names AFAIK.

Both are currently “pro-vax” when asked on the record.

So were really batting 0 for 3142 public health officers if you are looking for someone who follows the science and is correct about the vaccines.

Now that is truly sad, isn’t it?
26   Patrick   2022 Jan 10, 12:23pm  


original link


This Dr Shankara Chetty from South Africa. He's has successfully treated thousands of patients with covid-illness with no oxygen, hospitalisation nor death. He usually does not go into discussing the bigger picture but treatments. You'll find videos of him discussing his observations and treatment in details and he's been on panels with Dr McCullough etc.
27   Patrick   2022 Jan 12, 8:16pm  

Never forget:

Almost all doctors betrayed you.

You can never really trust them again.
28   Patrick   2022 Jan 12, 8:23pm  

https://eugyppius.substack.com/p/what-convinced-you-containment-was-b33?source=patrick.net


LH was spooked by the premature eagerness of hospital record keepers to track vaccinations:

In February 2021, I worked as a registered nurse at an ivy league teaching hospital. Our electronic medical record system (Epic) went through an upgrade. One morning I noticed a new item on the medical record home page for each of my patients. Now in the same place as name, date of birth, gender, and allergies, appeared “COVID vaccination status.” All of my patients were defaulted to a status in bright red marked “Overdue.”

I found this very, very odd. How could anyone be over due for a vaccine that was still in clinical trials and was only available under an emergency use authorization. The vaccine was not yet even widely available to at-risk populations.
29   ForcedTQ   2022 Jan 12, 9:46pm  

Just a follow up to the good doctor Kheriaty from UCI: the Bastards fired him. I sure hope he wins his lawsuit and bends them and the Board of Regents over hardcore.
30   Patrick   2022 Jan 19, 8:40am  

https://www.ntd.com/doctor-suspended-from-houston-methodist-for-backing-ivermectin-and-opposing-vaccine-mandates-sues-hospital_728869.html?source=patrick.net

Doctor Suspended From Houston Methodist for Backing Ivermectin and Opposing Vaccine Mandates Sues Hospital


Another doctor with integrity among so many who have none.
31   Patrick   2022 Jan 19, 8:50am  

https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/michelle-perro-take-stance-covid-vaccines-kids/?source=patrick.net


Dr. Michelle Perro to Fellow Pediatricians: ‘Rise Up, Take a Stance’ Against COVID Vaccines for Kids
In The Defender’s “Leading the Charge for Change” interview series, Dr. Michelle Perro explains why she advises parents not to give their kids the COVID vaccine and encourages other physicians to speak out against the vaccines.


Yet another good doctor.
32   Patrick   2022 Jan 19, 8:53am  

https://www.covidmedicalnetwork.com/open-letters/Open-letter-TGA.pdf?source=patrick.net


Open letter to Australian leaders
Preventing vaccine injury in children


Doctors against boosters.
33   Patrick   2022 Jan 21, 1:19pm  

https://stevekirsch.substack.com/p/nebraska-protects-healthcare-providers?source=patrick.net


Sit down. Prepare yourself. You will not believe what I am about to tell you.

In Nebraska, they value freedom of speech for doctors and other healthcare providers

If you are a doctor, you can prescribe ivermectin to a patient and you will not have your license to practice medicine revoked. Yes, that was not a typo.

The reason is due to a provision in Nebraska law that makes the Medical Boards accountable to the Attorney General’s office. The Boards can’t revoke a license without the AG’s consent.

In this case, the occupants of the AG’s office are superb; they are critical thinkers. They don’t just accept the narrative from US government agencies as gospel. They actually look at the science! What a novel concept.
34   Patrick   2022 Jan 21, 3:51pm  

https://rwmalonemd.substack.com/p/press-release-on-the-eve-of-washington?source=patrick.net


On The Eve of Washington March, COVID Declaration
Now Backed by More Than 17,000 Doctors and Medical Scientists Around the World ...

The over 17,000 signers to the declaration have reached consensus on three foundational principles:

Healthy children should not be subject to forced vaccination: they face negligible risk from covid, but face potential permanent, irreversible risk to their health if vaccinated, including heart, brain, reproductive and immune system damage.

Natural Immunity Denial has prolonged the pandemic and needlessly restricted the lives of Covid-recovered people. Masks, lockdowns, and other restrictions have caused great harm especially to children and delayed the virus’ transition to endemic status.

Health agencies and institutions must cease interfering with the physician-patient relationship. Policymakers are directly responsible for hundreds of thousands of deaths, as a result of institutional interference and blocking treatments proven to cure at a near 100% rate when administered early.


OK, 17,000 with integrity. But most doctors have not signed.
35   Patrick   2022 Jan 25, 10:08pm  

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/01/physician-assistant-saves-hundreds-covid-patients-needlessly-dying-hospitals-reveals-exactly-medical-license-suspended/?source=patrick.net


Miller purportedly engaged in “threatening” behavior by “failing to social distance,” not wearing a mask “while speaking to a fully unmasked audience” and recommending and treating Covid patients with vitamins, Ivermectin and Hydroxychloroquine, Enzian, a Seattle-based Internal Medicine Specialist who works at Harborview Medical CenterMiller, warns in the 22-page complaint provided to the WMC.

Despite being targeted for exposing the corruption, the pediatric specialist stands by his assessment of the hospital’s murderous malpractice and flagrant negligence.

“Over 700,000 Americans have needlessly died in our hospitals. So yeah – you go to the hospital and all of your patient rights are gone,” he explained. “You’re isolated. Most of the time, a family member can go days without even being able to speak to a doctor, no less their loved one.

“Mechanical ventilation. [The] standard of care in Peace Health Hospital Southwest in Vancouver, Washington – what do they have? About a 10 percent survival rate once they are ventilated, Dr. Leslie Enzian? So, the standard of care is killing?”


A physician assistant with integrity!
37   Patrick   2022 Feb 7, 11:03am  

https://t.me/greatreject/29929?source=patrick.net


Dr. McCullough - We Need Teamwork on Pandemic Response, Not One Person “We have a medical dictator that we’re looking at on TV... This process of seeing one person without a range of opinions, without any debate... This process of seeing a medical dictator itself is a disease.”
39   Patrick   2022 Feb 24, 5:21pm  

Doctors with integrity are actually being threatened by proposed laws, such as this one:

https://mailchi.mp/aapsonline/california-ab-2098?source=patrick.net


A dangerous bill, AB 2098, has been introduced in the California legislature, that if passed, will punish physicians who seek to publicly speak out about issues that directly impact their patients' well-being.

For example, under AB 2098, physicians who advocate for the potential benefits of early treatment with off-label drugs, or who ask questions about COVID vaccine safety, could be charged with unprofessional conduct for promoting "misinformation or disinformation" and lose their medical license.

Physicians must not be coerced into blindly following the establishment "consensus" and refraining from entering into debate that is crucial to advancing both science and rational public health policies.

This law would be harmful to California patients, the integrity of the medical profession, and the welfare of the entire state.

Please take a few moments to send a message to your California legislators asking them to oppose AB 2098.
41   AmericanKulak   2022 Mar 9, 3:48pm  

Patrick says
Doctors with integrity are actually being threatened by proposed laws, such as this one:

https://mailchi.mp/aapsonline/california-ab-2098?source=patrick.net


A dangerous bill, AB 2098, has been introduced in the California legislature, that if passed, will punish physicians who seek to publicly speak out about issues that directly impact their patients' well-being.

For example, under AB 2098, physicians who advocate for the potential benefits of early treatment with off-label drugs, or who ask questions about COVID vaccine safety, could be charged with unprofessional conduct for promoting "misinformation or disinformation" and lose their medical license.

Physicians must not be coerced into blindly following the establishment "consensus" and refraining from entering into debate that is crucial to advancing both science and rational ...


We need to do the exact opposite and start passing laws that guarantee a physician's privilege to have and communicate an educated opinion, and forbid BOTH governments AND licensing associations like the AMA from punishing them in any way.

"But muh privates..."

We all saw in the past few years how Big Tech, the National School Boards Association, State and National Professional Medical Groups were used by the Revolving Door Deep State to threaten, discipline, and censor people who didn't "Toe the Line"
42   Patrick   2022 Mar 9, 11:07pm  

The AMA may have enough power to get such laws passed at the state or federal level.

But I suspect they are easily corrupted by Deep State money as well, and will not act in the true interest of doctors.
43   Patrick   2022 Mar 11, 5:59pm  

https://rescue.substack.com/p/rat-out-your-doctor-bidens-surgeon?s=r&source=patrick.net

The criminal "surgeon general" Murthy is asking for the public to join the police state in betraying doctors who use extremely safe drugs like ivermectin to treat the virus that Fauci created in Wuhan.
44   Patrick   2022 Mar 11, 8:05pm  

https://rumble.com/vwr3xl-dr.-joseph-fraiman-im-was-wrong.html?source=patrick.net


original link



"It took me about a year into the pandemic before it became really clear that it wasn't obvious at all that there was any policy that was strongly effective at reducing COVID. The scientist in me had to take this emerging data that I was seeing and acknowledge my hypothesis had been falsified.” - Dr. Joseph Fraiman
45   HeadSet   2022 Mar 11, 8:52pm  

Now this is disgusting. The doctor is now claiming good natured ignorance for his wrong-headed policies when covid came out?

A competent doctor would know right at the start:

The SARs bug resembles the cold bug more than a flu bug, and immunization against such a bug is virtually impossible.
A virus spread by aerosol will not be hindered by a mask
When doc above saw all those "body bags," he should have noticed the average age was 80+
Using 40 cycles on a polymerase type test will guarantee many false positives
SARs type bugs have a history of being treated successfully with HCQ and Ivermectin
This "epidemic" was no worse that the seasonal flu - it in no way warranted the use of untested mRNA jabs

Now that the truth is coming out, these assholes are claiming they were fooled, rather that the reality that they chose job security over patient health
46   Patrick   2022 Mar 11, 8:55pm  

More and more collaborators with vaxx evil will now say "We didn't know" to absolve themselves from the blame they richly deserve.

Just like all the people who knew about the concentration camps said "We didn't know."
47   richwicks   2022 Mar 11, 9:23pm  

Patrick says
More and more collaborators with vaxx evil will now say "We didn't know" to absolve themselves from the blame they richly deserve.

Just like all the people who knew about the concentration camps said "We didn't know."


I do take some issue with this.

Nazi Germany did a lot of evil things, but concentration camps weren't simply killing machines. If the purpose of a concentration camp was to simply kill victims, they wouldn't build the infrastructure for people to live at them.

If I was a sociopath, and thankfully I'm not, and I intended to kill people who were forcibly placed on trains, I would kill them on the trains. Passing the exhaust of the trains through the railway cars would ensure that, and do it cheaply. There would be no need of Zyklon B and other agents.

Concentration camps appeared to be forced labor camps, not death camps. People who couldn't work I wouldn't be the least bit surprised were killed. I'm certain they were.

After WWII millions of Germans were purposely starved to death (we are told) under the command of Eisenhower. IF this is true, this is because they believed the propaganda, and many of us do to this day. Every war starts with a lie and continues with lies compounded upon them. Don't be so certain we know what happened in WWII, perhaps we are told the truth, but it appears the starving people that were discovered, were starving because they were doing forced labor, making weaponry, and that their supply lines were cut for the war effort by the Allies.

The Allies made those starving people, not the Nazis. But also, those same Nazis turned people ineffective at work into corpses as well.

There's no good side in a war unless it's purely a defensive war, and I don't think defensive wars really exist provided the defense survives. We're a brutal species and our humanity can be stripped from any of us given enough horror and/or desperation. The Donner party is said they turned on their children for food. That could probably happen to any of us. Imagine being so desperate, you'd be willing to kill your child to survive. That's our ugly nature, and we see this in nature commonly. We're still beasts.

Our humanity, is merely a luxury in easy times and we are in very easy times, most of us are anyhow.
48   AmericanKulak   2022 Mar 11, 10:16pm  

richwicks says
Nazi Germany did a lot of evil things, but concentration camps weren't simply killing machines. If the purpose of a concentration camp was to simply kill victims, they wouldn't build the infrastructure for people to live at them.


They had labor camps (vast majority) and death camps (minority, but more common as the Germans started losing) and execution squads (continuously since Barbarossa began, they had special formations for this).

It was probably more from death due to overwork/starvation, and outright killing (POWs they couldn't move for logistics purposes, nor manpower to guard, especially during Barbarossa, as well as Civilians both as reprisals and by official policy).

We know the Generalplan Ost official policy and the Wannsee Conference established slavery/liquidation for the Slavs (ironically starting in the Ukraine) and the Jews and Gypsies. The latter were the first to be liquidated as they were considered exceptionally troublesome and an easier test run since the native populations didn't like them to begin with and would assist in rounding them up.

We know that Fall Weiss was bullshit, they had saboteur groups inside Poland a week before the "Attack on the Radio Station by Polish Fanatics". Under radio silence, they didn't get the notice to delay the attack and were swept up by Polish paramilitary patrols miles inside Poland (over the old Czech, not current German, border). We also know they slaughtered at least several thousand people after the invasion of Poland. If they're willing to execute Priests, ex-Mayors, retired military, etc. in the thousands...
49   richwicks   2022 Mar 11, 10:25pm  

AmericanKulak says
richwicks says
Nazi Germany did a lot of evil things, but concentration camps weren't simply killing machines. If the purpose of a concentration camp was to simply kill victims, they wouldn't build the infrastructure for people to live at them.


They had labor camps (vast majority) and death camps (minority, but more common as the Germans started losing).

It was probably more from death due to overwork/starvation, and outright killing (POWs they couldn't move for logistics purposes, nor manpower to guard, especially during Barbarossa, as well as Civilians both as reprisals and by official policy).

We know the Generalplan Ost official policy and the Wannsee Conference established slavery/liquidation for the Slavs (ironically starting in the Ukraine) and the Jews and Gypsies. The latter were the first to be liquidated as they were considered exceptionally troublesome and an easie...


What you said is beyond my knowledge to be honest.

War is a very terrible thing. I know that without doubt.

What I don't know is what WWII was about. It's been claimed it was about overthrowing the European banking structure for example, and at the same time about the elimination of the Jews. I suspect both these are at least partially wrong.

I had an great uncle whose job it was to photograph the aftermath of the atomic bombs in Hiroshima and Nagasaki. I don't know which because we were very strictly instructed not to ask him about the war. I knew other veterans, one man was charged to recover to corpses of Normandy, he was a bitter and hateful man. He was recovering the bodies of 18 and up men. I've never seen war myself but I've seen what it has done to people who went through it - it destroyed them.

I feel very badly for Ukraine, and Russia - and I hate my nation's rulers for bringing this on. It could have been avoided. I hope there is a hell, Zelenskyy deserves it. Our rulers deserve it as well. This could have all been avoided.
50   AmericanKulak   2022 Mar 11, 11:59pm  

richwicks says
What I don't know is what WWII was about. It's been claimed it was about overthrowing the European banking structure for example, and at the same time about the elimination of the Jews. I suspect both these are at least partially wrong.

When you stare at the abyss, the abyss stares back... like Saruman studied the arts of the enemy... Hitler was supposed to be a tool to crush the Reds and Unions, but then took total power, got rid of the Monarchy entirely (defying his dying promise to Hindenberg which he immediately broke), got rid of the right wing competition (Schleicher, Papen) and by the time his IG Farben and Tyssen-Krupps (Yes, the Elevator company) woke up, he had total control both within the party and Germany itself. He then pursued particularist aims of his own.

richwicks says
I feel very badly for Ukraine, and Russia - and I hate my nation's rulers for bringing this on. It could have been avoided. I hope there is a hell, Zelenskyy deserves it. Our rulers deserve it as well. This could have all been avoided.

This was long predicted, and easily avoidable.

I don't know Zelensky's angle, this is one of those time will tell things.

I don't know the fix either, some days I feel things are turning for the better on a subtle, fundamental level. Some days I feel like it's going to get worse and the word "Mattresses" comes to mind.
51   Patrick   2022 Mar 13, 11:51am  

https://rumble.com/vx7g9x-dr.-john-campbell-has-been-red-pilled-by-the-pfizer-documents.html?source=patrick.net


original link



In his latest video, Dr. Campbell looks through the Pfizer documents and concludes, "This has just destroyed trust in authority."

It shows that the tide is turning our way: a former advocate of the vaccine, trusted by millions of people, has now realized he’s been deceived and he’s not happy about it at all.

Pfizer Documents pdf can be downloaded here: https://phmpt.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/5.3.6-postmarketing-experience.pdf?source=patrick.net

More documents can be found here: https://phmpt.org/pfizers-documents/?source=patrick.net
52   Ceffer   2022 Mar 13, 12:00pm  

I think there is a difference between being red pilled and being a former secondary gain propagandist avoiding the Nuremberg Noose or the Vaccine Liability Tsunami. We know the post war death camp prison guard tango.

"Who could possibly have known the vaccines were dangerous?" "I was relying on firm, scientific authority!"
53   richwicks   2022 Mar 13, 3:43pm  

Ceffer says
I think there is a difference between being red pilled and being a former secondary gain propagandist avoiding the Nuremberg Noose or the Vaccine Liability Tsunami. We know the post war death camp prison guard tango.

"Who could possibly have known the vaccines were dangerous?" "I was relying on firm, scientific authority!"


Everybody will have forgotten this in a few months.

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