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I agree.

Tenpoundbass says

Anti organized, well financed politically charged and lawfare weaponized Homosexuality

Maybe, but it's the cold, icy zingers and nasty ripostes that will really get you.

They now target children very well. Many kids in this generation will be fucked and pushed into lgbt horseshit.

It’s evil what we seen in government schools and some private schools too.

Fortwaynemobile says

They now target children very well. Many kids in this generation will be fucked and pushed into lgbt horseshit.

It’s evil what we seen in government schools and some private schools too.

You won't like this, but it's just cleaning up the gene pool.

Because liberals and atheists embraced abortion, guess who is in the minority? Liberals and atheists. Evolutionary Psychology - you make me laugh. We're in self correcting system, we're just at a current lowpoint - it's not sustainable.

They are trying to force us into feudalism again, but I don't think that is sustainable. Lack of resources and education kept them at their subsistence levels, but I don't think it's possible to return us to that. Information would have to be curtailed, and I can stored the entire Library of Alexandria in my pocket, literally. The only thing we need to guard against is the ability to do data storage.

richwicks says

Fortwaynemobile says

They now target children very well. Many kids in this generation will be fucked and pushed into lgbt horseshit.

It’s evil what we seen in government schools and some private schools too.

You won't like this, but it's just cleaning up the gene pool.

Because liberals and atheists embraced abortion, guess who is in the minority? Liberals and atheists. Evolutionary Psychology - you make me laugh. We're in self correcting system, we're just at a current lowpoint - it's not sustainable.

Kids they are killing are just children, they have nothing to do with it. It ain’t just liberals man. It’s like virus, random people get fucked hard here.

Fortwaynemobile says

Kids they are killing are just children, they have nothing to do with it. It ain’t just liberals man. It’s like virus, random people get fucked hard here.

I can understand your sympathy for the children, but this is a war. Innocents die or don't reproduce, same thing from the point of evolution.

Look, if I was a god, I'd make a garden, a park. No turmoil, no conflict - but that's not how living things work.

I have confidence that the scum of the Earth are losing their ability to control what they think are the scum of the Earth. We're advancing, it's painful, but compare us to 1700 Victorian England - are we are brutal as they were? We're improving, we're just hitting a bump in the road.

There's a real problem for the the powers that be, people are starting to see them for what they actually are. We're headed for a global world-wide awakening. The difference between the upper and lower classes is largely a degree of viciousness but we outnumber then 1000 to 1 at least. Look up Ghislaine Maxwell's family - find out how many of her sisters and brothers had kids for example. It's self limiting, and they are trying to survive.

Here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghislaine_Maxwell

To the right, see "relatives".

Incidentally, the mother of Bill Gates was Mary Maxwell - I wonder if there is a family relation? That would explain Bill Gates affinity for Epstein outside of him fucking children.

https://notthebee.com/article/a-finnish-politician-is-about-to-be-tried-for-the-hate-crime-of-posting-a-bible-verse?source=patrick.net

A Finnish politician is about to be tried for the hate crime of posting a Bible verse and believing Christian things ...

That's Romans 1:24-27. In English:

Therefore God gave them up in the lusts of their hearts to impurity, to the dishonoring of their bodies among themselves, because they exchanged the truth about God for a lie and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever! Amen.

For this reason God gave them up to dishonorable passions. For their women exchanged natural relations for those that are contrary to nature; and the men likewise gave up natural relations with women and were consumed with passion for one another, men committing shameless acts with men and receiving in themselves the due penalty for their error.

Uh oh. I just realized that by posting this, I probably shouldn't visit Finland if I don't want to be jailed by their progressive utopia.

Patrick says

A Finnish politician is about to be tried for the hate crime of posting a Bible verse and believing Christian things ...

That's Romans 1:24-27. In English:

Therefore God gave them up in the lusts of their hearts to impurity, to the dishonoring of their bodies among themselves, because they exchanged the truth about God for a lie and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever! Amen.

Oh good god. You've REALLY outdone yourself now. You really have no idea who you plucked out of the right wing worldwide trash heap because you think she echoes sentiments you agree with. Let's see how committed people are to the things they say and the people they choose to elevate as allies, heroes, and/or martyrs.

It only figures that American evangelicals and barely closeted homophobes and bigots would champion this woman and her cause. Päivi Räsänen does not have many allies in Finnish political and religious circles. Her vocal positions about abortion and homosexuality are directly and singly responsible for 50,000 Finns formally cutting ties with the Lutheran church.* That's right, 50,000 is the number of Finns who publicly and openly declared that HER beliefs and attitudes about these are incompatible with their sense of morality, and ethics and godliness as THEY personally experience and desire it, and that they're willing to cut ties for life with the religion that their families and communities have held for generations, SPECIFICALLY because of her and these exact sentiments.

You know what else rank and file Finns didn't do that American conservatives did en masse? Post homoerotic shirtless pictures of Putin on horseback gushing that THAT is what a real leader looks like, and not only ignore the warnings and evidence but to EMBRACE AND RUN WITH well known Russian online campaigns to divide Americans and make them distrust our institutions and fellow Americans, specifically using hot button topics like 2A, race, police brutality, and sexuality.

It really FIGURES that American Christian leaning conservatives would embrace this abrasive cunt of a Finnish politician, while knowing ABSOLUTELY NOTHING about her and her views and history, other than this pathetic whiny "Woman getting persecuted and victimized just for quoting one bible verse! Waaaaaah!"

IDK how American christianity accepted and embraced loving all of God's creatures, EXCEPT homosexuals-those are a get out of eternal damnation free card where it concerns loving thy neighbor and not bearing false witness against them.

"The way you treat the least among yourselves, is the way you treat ME."
-Jesus Christ

It disgusts me that self-declared loving Christians consider homosexuals fair game and open season to be treated as "the other," to be shunned and expelled like an acolyte of Satan. I'm calling you out as anti-biblical bigots on this topic, as I always will. IDK how you give yourselves an ethical pass on the beliefs you hold and the statements and behaviors that result.

Gayness is a vice and nothing more.

It is spread through pedophilia, through the media, and through schools now.

It spreads disease far more than other kinds of sex, and dramatically shortens life.

No one was born gay. The majority of gays were converted by being molested as a boy by a gay man. You can look up this fact. Gays are well aware of it and discuss it with each other.

Even though gays are only 2% of the population, they commit 1/3 of all child molestations. There is a close causal relationship between gayness and pedophilia.

Patrick says

sodomy.

A religious concept. How does the private doings of gay people pick your pocket or break your back? It doesn't. One must embrace the superstitions of pretechnological humans, and embrace a victim/martyr/hero's journey conquering evil trope to twist their existence into an existential threat.

No, sodomy is real. Let me know if you need a graphic definition.

Like I agreed in the first comment on this thread, I have no qualms with people who keep their private business to themselves, no matter how self-harmful. If you want to drink yourself to death, well, I won't stop you there either, though I'll try to discourage you from doing it.

What I object to is the promotion of sodomy to children with colorful flags, via schools and the media, and the spreading of gayness via pedophilia. About half of gays were sexually molested as a boy by a gay man.

And in spite of being only 2% of the population, gays commit about 33% of child molestations. There is a very close and consistent relationship between pedophilia and gayness

I also think people should be able to quote the bible without being charged with a crime. Not a believer myself, but I think Christianity is a good religion, and we must defend basic rights like freedom of speech and freedom of religion.

Nobody: Sodomy is fake!

Patrick says

No, sodomy is real. Let me know if you need a graphic definition.

You won't address the salient question. How does the private doings of gay people pick your pocket or break your back? It doesn't.

"Like I agreed in the first comment on this thread, I have no qualms with people who keep their private business to themselves"

Supporting people like this vile cunt of a woman, is embracing having qualms with, and actively pursuing and persecuting people who keep their private business to themselves.

Automan Empire says

You won't address the salient question. How does the private doings of gay people pick your pocket or break your back? It doesn't.

I did answer. You even quoted my answer.

My objection to gays is that they are pushing sodomy on children. They molest children far out of proportion to their numbers, and the majority of gays were molested as a boy by a gay man. There is a clear causal connection. And then they create a flag in bright primary colors, which attracts children.

I'm supporting that woman's right to have an opinion and to quote the bible.

Do you deny her rights?

Patrick says

My objection to gays is that they are pushing sodomy on children.

So literally every gay person deserves persecution because some "push sodomy on children." This doesn't hold up to a moment of scrutiny. Pushing sodomy on children is patently offensive and illegal and easy to pursue without objections when that is actually happening or likely to. If you're talking about "drag queen reading hour" I agree that's fishy and wouldn't take my kids to it, but that entire phenomenon is IMO an artifact of existing homophobia and its consequential behaviors. Like pride parades with the freaks of their culture letting it all hang out for a day, after a generation of society NOT "officially" ostracizing gay people, this will die out from boredom and mundaneness. I see it as homophobia's extinction burst, or put another way, hate leaving the body politic.

Patrick says

I'm supporting that woman's right to have an opinion and to quote the bible.

The thing is, she and hers have opinions and make interpretations of the bible that get used to justify acts like the guys who lured Matthew Shepard to get tied to a fence, tortured and beaten severely, then left to die on a freezing Wyoming night, which he did despite being rescued at some point... all for being gay.

What is the true moral state of "Christians" who have joy in their hearts when something bad happens to a gay person?

Patrick says

Do you deny her rights?

Apparently under Finnish law and constitution, she does NOT have a "right" to say the things she does without consequences. Do you deny even Americans the consequences of their speech even in cases where OUR laws and constitution allow it?

Automan Empire says

So literally every gay person deserves persecution because some "push sodomy on children."

Whence did you come up with this conclusion?

If I knew that Gay people, (that I know) are pushing pushing sodomy on children... I would call them out in a new york minute. I would have to call Guido, Tony or Joseppi back in Cicero Illinois, to let them know of this. Knee caps first...

Of course they are.

That's the point of the rainbow flag. Kids like bright primary colors.

And they have help from zillions of Karens teaching kids in elementary school to "be proud" of sodomy and putting up the sodomy flag in the classroom.

seesaw says

If I knew that Gay people, (that I know) are pushing pushing sodomy on children... I would call them out in a new york minute. I would have to call Guido, Tony or Joseppi back in Cicero Illinois, to let them know of this.

If I knew (as in with tangible unambiguous evidence) that gay people that I knew were doing this, I wouldn't hesitate, wait, or sublet the task to another... let's just say the actions would be decisive to a level some might call ruthless.

It's because I've known gay person after gay person after gay person who was NOT like that, that I bring the same energy against injustice to bear against casual gay bashers.

Patrick says

Automan Empire says

So literally every gay person deserves persecution because some "push sodomy on children."

Whence did you come up with this conclusion?

From your exact choice of words.

Patrick says

My objection to gays is that they are pushing sodomy on children.

No qualifiers or limits... just THEY. Your statement is endlessly falsifiable.

Automan Empire says

homoerotic shirtless pictures of Putin

This?

Overall, I don't understand this Patnet preoccupation with gays. I don't care whom anyone bangs, be it men, womyn, wasp nests, or holes in ground. IT IS NONE OF MY BUSINESS! If we want to protest something, then it should be Big Business pushing gay crap on us in name of inclusivity and PC ness. This is related to gays in the same way how Southern racism was related to a poor white guy in 1940s or how current BLM crap is related to a black person. Most of them did nothing wrong, and should not be blamed. A few were wrong, and should be criticized as individuals, and not as members of the group. Call out mayor Pete for incompetence and being an affirmative action hire, call out Karens who push rainbow flags on kids, call out child molesters, etc. I don't think anyone should bash a whole group of people, even if statistically they may be more prone to some bad behavior. That still makes most of them reasonable.

If you want to do something about media forcefully pushing gay lifestyles on us, don't consume this media. Get off fucking facebook, twitter, instagram, don't listen to MSM news, don't patronize virtue signaling big business. But I understand that is difficult, and some Patnetters prefer to bash gays as a whole instead of quitting social media etc.

Automan Empire says

The thing is, she and hers have opinions and make interpretations of the bible that get used to justify acts like the guys who lured Matthew Shepard to get tied to a fence, tortured and beaten severely, then left to die on a freezing Wyoming night,

Perhaps you're misinterpreting what happened (all of it, no doubt, horrifying).
Sourced from The Guardian (which is pretty far left):
Jimenez found that Matthew was addicted to and dealing crystal meth and had dabbled in heroin. He also took significant sexual risks and was being pimped alongside Aaron McKinney, one of his killers, with whom he’d had occasional sexual encounters. He was HIV positive at the time of his death.
“This does not make the perfect poster boy for the gay-rights movement,” says Jimenez. “Which is a big part of the reason my book has been so trashed.”
Matthew’s drug abuse, and the fact that he knew one of his killers prior to the attack, was never explored in court. Neither was the rumour that the killers knew that he had access to a shipment of crystal meth with a street value of $10,000 which they wanted to steal.
Matthew was born into an affluent family and had attended state school in Casper, Wyoming. The 21-year-old political science major at Laramie University stood only 5ft 2in, and his blond hair, braces and slight frame gave him an air of vulnerability and innocence. In his junior year of high school, Matthew moved with his family to Saudi Arabia. There were no American high schools in Saudi at the time, so he was sent to the American School in Switzerland. By the time he enrolled at Laramie he spoke three languages and had aspirations to be a human-rights advocate. Somewhere along the line, however, Matthew fell from being a grade-A student to a drug-addicted prostitute who diced with danger. He suffered periods of depression, possibly as a result of being gang raped a few years earlier while on holiday in Morocco. But this is not the Matthew Shepard who became a celebrated figure for the gay-rights movement in America.

Patrick says

I did answer. You even quoted my answer.

You're correct, I did not address many of the points you made, so I will do so now. TBH they rang so hollow they were kinda invisible to me the first read through.

Patrick says

What I object to is the promotion of sodomy to children with colorful flags, via schools and the media, a

You see promotion of sodomy, I see promotion of inclusiveness and de-stigmatizing gayness to take away power from not only homophobes, but from those who would take advantage of the shame, guilt, self-loathing, and secrecy that gay underage grooming and unreported rape currently thrive nicely within.

Patrick says

About half of gays were sexually molested as a boy by a gay man.

Even if I took that statistic at face value (I don't) that still leaves the other 50% of gay people to reckon with. Attraction to sexually mature (but perhaps socially and legally underage) young people isn't unique to homosexuals. It's baked into our DNA as MAMMALS. I believe that imposing arbitrary religious and moral standards and myths only serves to COMPLICATE prevention and harm reduction of underage people "willfully" having sex, both gay and straight, but more so for gay people because of an entire additional realm of stigma. As for sex with sexually immature children, that is absolutely beyond the pale, and whether the "pairing" is gay or straight makes zero difference in the legal and moral realm.

I believe a generation in to general societal abandonment of homophobia and the resulting stigma and secrecy, there will be LESS opportunity for clandestine grooming and blackmail by gay predators. Keeping gayness "morally wrong" and stigmatized gives them an easy tool to keep victims silent. Don't forget that heterosexual rape, incest, and spousal rape were HUGE problems for WOMEN up through the 1950s. One of the huge drivers of the second wave of Feminism and free love in the 60s was the fact that being dependent on men for protection was a SHIT DEAL for women up until then. Due to the religion-driven stigma against premarital sex and unwed motherhood, women impregnated by these things resulted in victim-blaming the women while letting the men get away with it, because men.

Patrick says

but I think Christianity is a good religion,

Religion in general and Christianity in particular ABSOLUTELY FAILED at protecting young WOMEN from grooming, predation, then victim-blaming and ostracism. Why should anyone believe religion has good answers for resolving these problems for gay people in today's world? Their track record is absolute SHIT. They are failing hard, to this day, on protecting children and eliminating known molesters from their midst. Maybe I'll hear religious arguments on sexuality and protection of children a generation after molesting priests aren't a major daily topic. I'm likely to die of old age first on this timeline.

My Mom was in grade school when her Doctor father ran off with his "blonde bombshell" nurse through zero fault of her own. Yet she was immediately targeted for widespread hardcore ostracism and shunning from the community at large. She described how over a few days, all her grade school friends told her one by one, variations of, "I can't be your friend any more, because YOUR MOMMY is a DIVORCEE, so she'll come steal my Daddy away." The entire congregation of "Her Dad's" church shunned her. Later they started attending the (different denomination) church of her eventual Stepdad, which came with its own stigmatizing and shunning THERE. Meaning the entire congregation, elders to kids, looking down on a 9 year old girl and treating her as less-than and "the other"... because her Dad left her Mom against her wishes. FUCKED. UP.

EBGuy says

Perhaps you're misinterpreting what happened (all of it, no doubt, horrifying).
Sourced from The Guardian (which is pretty far left):

Sourced from The Guardian, which is which is one of the two big British tabloids that gave rise to the pejorative "Tabloid journalism." Out of that entire block of victim blaming and post-hoc painting him in as bad a light as possible, the murder convictions (and convictions against their accomplice-girlfriends) did not hinge on any of this.

Doesn't move the needle on my opinion of the topic at hand or the Shepard case one tiny bit.

Automan Empire says

From your exact choice of words.

Please find my exact words that said "So literally every gay person deserves persecution because some "push sodomy on children." "

If you can't find them, delete your slander.

Automan Empire says

Patrick says

Please find my exact words

Already ran through this.

No you didn't.

Find a quote of me saying the words you are lying about.

You're permanently in moderation until you stop lying about what other users said. Particularly me.

You could just apologize and admit that you completely fabricated the the accusation that I said "literally every gay person deserves persecution".

Your choice.